koalabear
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In every case of a negligent parent, the parent should be charged with murder. Then hung within 24 hours.
NRA and Florida gag pediatricians: no more firearm safety advice for parents
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In every case of a negligent parent, the parent should be charged with murder. Then hung within 24 hours.
Sean
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Vettebigot is going to be well pissed off that you called him that.
cjh
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it's good that you have goals.
richard_daily
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There are many other reasons that his opinion is irrelevant, but your example is the most pertinent one to this discussion.
bronzeage
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Probably so. The paradox which gun toting parents must solve is how to keep a firearm accessible in the event of a home invasion, but also keep it inaccessible to children.
Is the parent truly negligent? Doesn't the dead child share some of the blame? After all, I'm sure each child was told to not touch Daddy's gun.
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So are we still arguing it's a question of privacy? C'mon folks. If you don't want your doctor to know something, don't tell him about it, or tell him it's none of his business. That's not too hard, is it? You're making the average gun owner sound kinda stupid.
koalabear
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Nope, the parents fault, period. They left the gun where the child could access it.
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My gun-toting parents solved the paradox.
It's a fair cop.
Although, certainly the gun itself is primarily responsible.
Byron In Exile
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Well, I think Perg pretty much covered that aspect by unfavorably comparing their intelligence to that of a trained chimpanzee.
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chant mistress
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Then they should educate through flyers or paying for some ads or something. When I go to my doctor, Perg, I really don't want to spend even a couple of the few minutes I get with her talking about gun safety - or seat belts. I'd rather discuss my swollen ankles and how my shoulder is doing after the surgery.
On the other hand, I see no point in passing a law saying she can't even mention it. Everybody's reasons for going to a doctor are different, and people have as many different relationships with their doctors as there are doctor/patient relationships. It's ridiculous for the government to step in, treat it all like a generic, and tell us what we can't talk about.
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okay, it's official. I'm a pervert. The first thing I thought of when I saw those tongues was......well, nevermind.
koalabear
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So it wasn't gun safety.
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the AMA literature talks about steel doors and dogs as alternatives.
and it talks about gun safes and locks.
it's risk assessment. are you better served by completely unfettered access to a firearm, or by minimizing the risk of an accidental shooting by using a lock despite the fact you'll lose time in removing the lock?
there is no one right answer. you can't figure out which answer is right for you, though, if you don't know of the alternatives.
bronzeage
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How did they do this? You survived early childhood and that is proof enough of the effectiveness of their method.
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chant mistress
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Hey, don't put down trained chimpanzees. I've seen them ride bikes and everything.
Can trained chimpanzees discuss gun safety with their audiences? I hope not. I'm pretty sure none of them are NRA trained. I think we need another law.
koalabear
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Pereg owns a gun, he was referring to himself.
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not exactly
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koalabear
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bronzeage
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Steel doors and dogs are passive measures. Guns are for people of action.
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i have two feral cats that demand to be fed and a back door that won't lock.
i'll never be a man of action.
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I would assume that they are. That doesn't change a physician's need to perform risk assessment, does it?
koalabear
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So he also asks about the type of lawnmower, number of steps going in and out of the house. proper stair height on inside staircases, is the handrail the proper height and sturdy, gas or electric heat, is the house properly grounded in case of a lightning strike, are ground fault breakers installed in the correct locations......
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I thought of you today. We have this wonderful store a few towns north of here and make a pilgrimage every now and then for stuff like closeout deals on expensive outdoorsy clothes. They sell a little of everything though, and I was looking at the guns...sorry the pictures suck; my phone wasn't up to the task. Walther p22, 10+1 in .22LR and a PPK also in .22LR.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMAG0133.jpg
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