Have you ever wondered just what you're eating?

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Another thread gave me the idea for this one. I had been looking in to this a couple of weeks ago, as I am strongly considering drastically changing my diet permanently.

Have you ever taken a good hard look at the additives in the foods you are consuming? Do you care what may be in it, or does it just have to taste good and look good?

Lets take a look at some known food additives in this thread. See how many you were aware of, and decide for yourself whether or not you want to keep eating some of the foods you may not have realised were made with....sort of icky ingredients.

Fertilizer in Subway Sandwich Rolls
While chemical fertilizers inevitably make it into our produce in trace amounts, you would not expect it to be a common food additive. However, ammonium sulfate can be found inside many brands of bread, including Subway’s. The chemical provides nitrogen for the yeast, creating a more consistent product.


Beaver Anal Glands in Raspberry Candy
The anal glands of a beaver, conveniently euphemized as castoreum, are a common ingredient in perfumes and colognes but are also sometimes used to — believe it or not — enhance the flavor of raspberry candies and sweets.


Beef Fat in All Hostess Products
While this may not bother the most ardent omnivore, others are shocked to discover that their favorite childhood treats contain straight-up beef fat. The ingredient comes included a list of other oils that may or may not be used, so it is always a gamble! It is enough to make some of us want to go vegan.


Crushed Bugs as Red Food Coloring
After killing thousands at a time, the dried insects are boiled to produce a liquid solution that can be turned to a dye using a variety of treatments. Some people worry that the coloring — often called carmine or carminic acid — could be listed as a “natural color,” disguising the fact that there are bugs in the product.


Beetle Juice in Sprinkles and Candies
You know that shiny coating on candies like Skittles? Or the sprinkles on cupcakes and ice cream sundaes? Well, they get that glaze from the secretions of the female lac beetle. The substance is also known as shellac and commonly used as a wood varnish.


Sheep Secretions in Bubble Gum
The oils inside sheep’s wool are collected to create the goopy substance called lanolin. From there, it ends up in chewing gum (sometimes under the guise of “gum base”), but also is used to create vitamin D3 supplements.


Human Hair and/or Duck Feathers in Bread
What’s in your morning bagel? If you get it from Noah’s Bagels, it contains either human hair or duck feathers, and it’s your guess as to which. The substance, called L-cysteine or cystine, is used as a dough conditioner to produce a specific consistency. While artificial cysteine is available, it is cost prohibitive and mostly used to create kosher and halal products.


http://webecoist.com/2009/05/08/10-weird-and-gross-ingredients-in-processed-food/
 
In 2006, the FDA approved the use of bacteriophages to fight listeria microbes on lunch meat, wieners and sausages. If you're unfamiliar with the term "bacteriophages," let us put it in a layman's term for you. Viruses

In this case, six viruses, to be exact. There is an excellent chance that ham sandwich you had for lunch this afternoon was sprayed with a mixture of six different viruses in an effort to fight a microbe that kills hundreds of people a year. Hundreds. Approximately the same number of people that die in plane crashes. Because of this clear and present danger, your lunch meat is slathered with a buffet of viruses.

This probably sounds bad enough already, but wait until you hear Intralytix, the company that developed the bacteriophage mixture, explain exactly how the virus works. "Typical phages have hollow heads that store their viral DNA and tunnel tails with tips that bind to specific molecules on the surface of their target bacteria. The viral DNA is injected through the tail into the host cell, where it directs the production of progeny phages."

We'll take it from here. The battlefield on which this virus vs. microbe war plays out is the bologna that you used this morning to prepare your afternoon lunch. Around the same time the hollow headed bacteriophages were storming the beach at listeria, you were lifting that bologna sandwich to your mouth. Just as the phages were thrusting their hollow, viral DNA-filled tails into the host cells (also living on your sandwich), you were jamming the whole nasty battle right down your oblivious gullet.

If you've ever tried the Subway diet without success, this might be a good time to give it another shot. If thinking about the rampant virus vs. microbe violence you're about to ingest doesn't put you off eating for the rest of the day then nothing will, tubby.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15982_5-horrifying-food-additives-youve-probably-eaten-today.html
 
So because somethings origins sound kinda gross then it's bad for you? What's wrong with bugs? People eat bugs every day.
Viruses are not inherently bad, only some are.
Beef fat is oil. Oh, no!

:rolleyes:
 
So because somethings origins sound kinda gross then it's bad for you? What's wrong with bugs? People eat bugs every day.
Viruses are not inherently bad, only some are.
Beef fat is oil. Oh, no!

:rolleyes:

Not all the hidden ingredients in our foods are "bad" for us. I didn't say that. What I am saying is that we don't really know what the hell we're eating half the time. I think I should have the choice to be fully aware of exactly what I put into my body. I may still eat the jellybeans made from shellac/bugs, but damnit I want to know I am eating a product made from bugs!
 
How are those "hidden?"

Well, when you read a label and it says it contains carmine, are you automatically aware that carmine is made from ground up bugs? Does the label say anywhere on it that any part of the food inside the package is made from ground up bugs?

Did you really just ask how they are hidden? :rolleyes:
 
Well, when you read a label and it says it contains carmine, are you automatically aware that carmine is made from ground up bugs? Does the label say anywhere on it that any part of the food inside the package is made from ground up bugs?

Did you really just ask how they are hidden? :rolleyes:

You have a list of "hidden" ingredients that included things like anchovies, lard, lactose, gelatin, tallow and whey. Not only aren't things hidden from anyone but it's common knowledge what they are.
There are no hidden ingredients. Just because you don't know what they are or never bothered to look doesn't make them hidden.
 
You have a list of "hidden" ingredients that included things like anchovies, lard, lactose, gelatin, tallow and whey. Not only aren't things hidden from anyone but it's common knowledge what they are.
There are no hidden ingredients. Just because you don't know what they are or never bothered to look doesn't make them hidden.

Alright, some of those on that list weren't as hidden as many others, I'll give you that, even though you're nitpicking.

You shouldn't have to take an Iphone with Google along with you to look up the giant list of ingredients you can't even pronounce on food labels, though.

Take something as simple as a package of shredded cheese. There is something called powdered cellulose in it. If you were in a grocery store reading the labels, wondering what you are going to ingest if you buy that cheese and eat it later that night, would you have any idea what the hell powdered cellulose is?

You will find Powdered Cellulose on the ingredient statements of shredded cheese; it is added as an anti-caking agent to prevent the cheese shreds from naturally melding back together into a brick of cheese. Cellulose is primarily obtained from wood pulp or cotton and is largely used in the manufacture of paper, paperboard, and cardstock as well as fabrics derived from cotton, linen, and other plant fibers. Water-soluble adhesives, such as those present in wallpaper paste, are composed of cellulose. Powdered cellulose is a white powder; it is a purified, mechanically disintegrated cellulose obtained by processing the pulp of a fibrous plant material. Essentially, it can be likened to sawdust.

I sure had no idea there was something "primarily obtained from wood pulp or cotton" in my shredded cheese. Did you?
 
Alright, some of those on that list weren't as hidden as many others, I'll give you that, even though you're nitpicking.

You shouldn't have to take an Iphone with Google along with you to look up the giant list of ingredients you can't even pronounce on food labels, though.

Take something as simple as a package of shredded cheese. There is something called powdered cellulose in it. If you were in a grocery store reading the labels, wondering what you are going to ingest if you buy that cheese and eat it later that night, would you have any idea what the hell powdered cellulose is?

You will find Powdered Cellulose on the ingredient statements of shredded cheese; it is added as an anti-caking agent to prevent the cheese shreds from naturally melding back together into a brick of cheese. Cellulose is primarily obtained from wood pulp or cotton and is largely used in the manufacture of paper, paperboard, and cardstock as well as fabrics derived from cotton, linen, and other plant fibers. Water-soluble adhesives, such as those present in wallpaper paste, are composed of cellulose. Powdered cellulose is a white powder; it is a purified, mechanically disintegrated cellulose obtained by processing the pulp of a fibrous plant material. Essentially, it can be likened to sawdust.

I sure had no idea there was something "primarily obtained from wood pulp or cotton" in my shredded cheese. Did you?

Yes, I know what cellulose is. Everyone knows what cellulose is. It's not a secret.
 
Yes, I know what cellulose is. Everyone knows what cellulose is. It's not a secret.

In the post you just quoted I said I had no idea what it was. I guess not everyone is as super awesome smart as you are!

I suppose you know what Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Sodium Alginate, Propylene Glycol, Sodium nitrite are off the top of your head?

What point are you trying to make here? You can't possibly know what every ingredient is in every package. None of us do. I'm just saying I would like to have a better idea of what the heck is in my food. Why are you trying to argue that?
 
In the post you just quoted I said I had no idea what it was. I guess not everyone is as super awesome smart as you are!

I suppose you know what Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Sodium Alginate, Propylene Glycol, Sodium nitrite are off the top of your head?

What point are you trying to make here? You can't possibly know what every ingredient is in every package. None of us do. I'm just saying I would like to have a better idea of what the heck is in my food. Why are you trying to argue that?

Cellulose is a common thing. Who the fuck doesn't know what cellulose is?
Nitrites are common, too. We all eat them every day. Once again, it's not a secret.
Yes, there are bad things in manufactured food but a lot of the stuff you listed isn't bad at all. Much of it is very natural. You just don't understand it.
 
Even if you grow your own with no chemicals, you are going to be eating stuff you wouldn't expect to.
 
Cellulose is a common thing. Who the fuck doesn't know what cellulose is?
Nitrites are common, too. We all eat them every day. Once again, it's not a secret.
Yes, there are bad things in manufactured food but a lot of the stuff you listed isn't bad at all. Much of it is very natural. You just don't understand it.


Ok twice now, I didn't know what it was until recently. I'd be willing to bet a hell of a lot of people don't know what it is.

And yeah, I've already said not everything added to foods is bad but I want to know what the hell I am eating. Which roughly translated means; I don't fucking understand it. Way to state the obvious?

Seriously what is your argument here? You keep repeating the same things I am saying, only with the added spin of you looking like you know everything and my looking like I'm a moron for not having a clue what long lists of additives I can't even pronounce actually are.
 
If these things are new to you then you must of been hid away very well. And if you have ever processed your own meat and canned other veggies then you would understand how they allow so much hair and other stuff in canned and packaged products. Go watch someone process a deer and see how much hair you get in your meat no matter how careful you are. Picking oranges or tomatos from the feilds to the cannery and see how much gets in there. I still have a bearing lubricant gave to me from a friend that says oderless, colorles and tasteless on the label made just for maintenance in the food industry. Not every thing is going to kill you, it just bothers some to really see or know its there.
 
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