feedback please?

I've only read "The Perfect Picnic" so far... and I'm not sure I'd go on to "Jack Of All Trades," after the showing you gave. :(

The first thing I have for you is the same first thing I have for most writers here: technicals, specifically your punctuation. It's somewhat troubling that you manage to simultaneously over-use and under-use commas. Here is your second paragraph with the unnecessary ones in red:
"It's such a gorgeous day, I only wish it were a few degrees cooler," I said to Sam. And yes, it was a nice day, but the temperature was in the high 20C range, and although I was only dressed in a breezy, thigh length pink dress, I could feel the beads of sweat forming in my cleavage, even as I spoke.

At least one of them belonged in the next paragraph:
"Yeah I know. We should cancel the picnic and go for a swim in the lake instead." Sam said to me, lifting his shirt up as if the decision had already been made.
That red period should be a comma. Any time a sentence of dialogue is followed by a "said" attribution (he said, she said, Bill said, Monica said), you cannot end that quotation with a period. You can substitute a comma, or employ a question mark or exclamation mark if those are appropriate. But a period is always wrong.

"We can after we eat," I replied. "I spent ages making all this food and I don't want it to go to waste". He laughed and sat down on the soft rug. Sam loved to tease me. Poke harmless fun and get me all riled up every once in a while.
You can use a period there, because you don't have a dialogue attribution tag after it... but--according to American English rules at least--the period needs to be inside the quotation mark, not outside it. (You're evidently not from America, since you used the Celsius scale earlier, but 45% of Literotica's readership is, and it helps not to irk them.) Also, the final sentence is a fragment; it has no subject. Every sentence needs to have at least one verb (an action) and a subject (the person doing the verb). Yours does not; it's just an action being committed by nothing. You can see the problem.

At this point, a lot of your readers have hit the Back button. You're only four paragraphs in, but three of them have self-evident technical errors. This is stuff we learned before the age of ten. You're not making a good showing of yourself. And punctuation errors are the worst of the lot. Punctuation marks are like traffic signals: if you don't follow them properly, you cause collisions. And the last thing you want to do is ram The Reader off the side of the page.

I laid him back and stood above him. I pulled off my panties and threw them on the ground, holding my dress up and exposing my pussy I could see Sam's eyes fill with lust. I lowered myself onto his cock and slowly sank down until he was as deep as possible inside me.
I think you're missing a punctuation mark somewhere in the red section. Maybe some words too. As is, it's a run-on sentence which is when a sentence keeps going instead of stopping where it should such sentences are annoying. (See what I meant about collisions?)

"Oh god, I love how your cock fills me up, baby." I breathlessly said
Typically you'd put the adverb ("breathlessly") after "said;" that's just smoother. (Ideally, you'd not use adverbs at all. They are the devil. But that's advanced theory, so we'll leave it off for now.)

Finally, the sex itself is kind of short. The thing about written sex is that you have to do a lot of description--either of the actions a person is taking, or of the sensations a person is feeling. Details make things hot. A rough outline of what happens... not so hot. We can get that by watching porn. A story can tell us more, and should. We don't want to just know the character is having sex, we want to be the character, be inside her skin, knowing what she knows and feeling what she feels. Writing such an account is--to put it mildly--difficult. But it's what's called for.

This is a good start, and your command of the English language is actually better than quite a few of the would-be writers who have come through here. But there is plenty you could improve. At the very least you can work on the presentation. The technical rules of language really are like traffic laws--they help get you where you're going, help sort things out. A pile of words means nothing; if I just say, "I pussy cokc he the when aftr lfet okay yes throught Venezuela egregious," you'd be confused--and rightly so, because this is gibberish. To turn it into not-gibberish, I apply the organizing principles of grammar, punctuation, spelling. So thus can you.

Hope this helps some.
 
One thing that stood out for me, was your sentence structure. CWatson addresses the punctuation very well.
Using the right words at the right time really helps people feel involved in the story.


I've only read "The Perfect Picnic" so far... and I'm not sure I'd go on to "Jack Of All Trades," after the showing you gave. :(

The first thing I have for you is the same first thing I have for most writers here: technicals, specifically your punctuation. It's somewhat troubling that you manage to simultaneously over-use and under-use commas. Here is your second paragraph with the unnecessary ones in red:


At least one of them belonged in the next paragraph:

That red period should be a comma. Any time a sentence of dialogue is followed by a "said" attribution (he said, she said, Bill said, Monica said), you cannot end that quotation with a period. You can substitute a comma, or employ a question mark or exclamation mark if those are appropriate. But a period is always wrong.


You can use a period there, because you don't have a dialogue attribution tag after it... but--according to American English rules at least--the period needs to be inside the quotation mark, not outside it. (You're evidently not from America, since you used the Celsius scale earlier, but 45% of Literotica's readership is, and it helps not to irk them.) Also, the final sentence is a fragment; it has no subject. Every sentence needs to have at least one verb (an action) and a subject (the person doing the verb). Yours does not; it's just an action being committed by nothing. You can see the problem.

At this point, a lot of your readers have hit the Back button. You're only four paragraphs in, but three of them have self-evident technical errors. This is stuff we learned before the age of ten. You're not making a good showing of yourself. And punctuation errors are the worst of the lot. Punctuation marks are like traffic signals: if you don't follow them properly, you cause collisions. And the last thing you want to do is ram The Reader off the side of the page.


I think you're missing a punctuation mark somewhere in the red section. Maybe some words too. As is, it's a run-on sentence which is when a sentence keeps going instead of stopping where it should such sentences are annoying. (See what I meant about collisions?)


Typically you'd put the adverb ("breathlessly") after "said;" that's just smoother. (Ideally, you'd not use adverbs at all. They are the devil. But that's advanced theory, so we'll leave it off for now.)

Finally, the sex itself is kind of short. The thing about written sex is that you have to do a lot of description--either of the actions a person is taking, or of the sensations a person is feeling. Details make things hot. A rough outline of what happens... not so hot. We can get that by watching porn. A story can tell us more, and should. We don't want to just know the character is having sex, we want to be the character, be inside her skin, knowing what she knows and feeling what she feels. Writing such an account is--to put it mildly--difficult. But it's what's called for.

This is a good start, and your command of the English language is actually better than quite a few of the would-be writers who have come through here. But there is plenty you could improve. At the very least you can work on the presentation. The technical rules of language really are like traffic laws--they help get you where you're going, help sort things out. A pile of words means nothing; if I just say, "I pussy cokc he the when aftr lfet okay yes throught Venezuela egregious," you'd be confused--and rightly so, because this is gibberish. To turn it into not-gibberish, I apply the organizing principles of grammar, punctuation, spelling. So thus can you.

Hope this helps some.

TERRIFIC ADVICE!!!
The rules of punctuation are hard to remember after spending 20 or more years away from school. I know some of my earlier storeis were rife with mistakes, and I still struggle with them.
CWatson, do you have any suggestions for instruction books to help some of us less polished folks get caught up?

BTW, I love your avi pic.
 
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thank you for your feedback. Although very helpful, I did mention I was very new to this, and I really didn't care for a few comments, namely 'this is stuff we learned before the age of ten.' Asking for feedback is asking for constructive criticism, not plain rudeness.
I do know I have an issue with punctuation, and thank you for clarifying how and when I have gone wrong, and although 45% of Lit readers may be American, as you pointed out I am not, and still have to put up with their terminology.
But again, I did appreciate your feedback.

Thanks again.
 
Well, let me rephrase then. I'm sorry it came across as derogatory. What I was trying to say is that the vast majority of readers will know those errors for what they are. Some mistakes you can sneak by the reading public, but not these.
 
I read both stories. For me, the strengths of your writing are your ability to describe the physical appearance of your characters, their surroundings and actions quite clearly and effortlessly. The weakness is a lack of originality and spark. Both stories have two characters - a physically small and rather submissive woman and a physically large, fairly dominating male. After a little bit of demurral, the woman submits to sex with the male and thoroughly enjoys it. I would suggest that you take a look at some stories that you like, that explore this particular sub-genre, and see what it is that you can learn from them, that would bring your stories to life.

Punctuation and grammar is not so much of an issue for me as it was for one of the other commentators. However a couple of the examples he pointed out seemed to have arisen because you didn't read over your work to check for things like missing full stops (periods in American English) before you submitted it. If so, this is a little disrespectful to the reader. In the Author's Hangout forum there is a sticky thread called 'Author's Hangout Library'. If you look under the heading 'Dialogue - punctuating speech' you will find a discussion on that topic. As you will see, there is quite a range of views, as there is in the published references on English Usage. The main problem I see with the direct speech in your first story is that your use of punctuation is not consistent - it is this that tends to grate with me, rather than what particular convention you use. As to grammar generally, creative writing is meant to be original and inventive and that involves experimenting with various styles and grammatical constructs. I couldn't, for example, see any problem with your omitting the verb in:

'Sam loved to tease me. Poke harmless fun and get me all riled up every once in a while.'

Leaving it out makes the passage punchier, in my view.

Happy writing.
 
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thanks for your feedback. Punctuation is an issue for me, and it's something I can keep improving every time I write :)
 
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