New ideas For sex scenes for same characters

[lovecraft68]

Okay I have a dilemma and looking for some advice. I have a incest series going and it is a "closed" incest series as in it is a brother/sister. I have 25 chapters have 26 at the editor and am on 27. i also have done a Halloween one shot and 5 chapter spin off. Bottom line at this point my rough estimate is that I have engaged the same two people on sex about 40 times. I have maybe 10 more chapters and am out of ideas. A fan of the series that contacts me on a regular basis and loves it made the comment they read for the story which is good as the sex is getting a bit dull. Now the two (Mark/Megan) are into BDSM (pisses the incest purists off I guess that's no way to treat your sister) that has afforded me some creative license as I have had some seriously hardcore scenes but I am running out of ideas I don;t feel it's me as I online role play and bang things out left and right and when writing one of the siblings having sex with someone else (former lovers) the sex flows fine. I am simply stuck because it is the same two people. Now what limits me vs other incest series is that there is only the 2. Conflicted, Party of Five, Daddy's Girls, all these popular series had multiple sibs so a lot of variety. Another thing I work against is they do not play with others (in front of each other,) Their relationship has been secret for years so I can't do the "and then Betty from next store came over and joined in." As for mixing up the sex in other ways I have had the sister with two other guys as well as a female lover. I have also had the brother with a couple of different women. However in incest people want incest but I am getting to the point where I am considering chapters without the 2 of them doing anything and seeing I get beat up on it. Right now the sex is uninspired on my end which means it will read that way. I told the wife it's like "okay copy paste scene here" I have done as much as i can and am looking for suggestions. Problem is I like the sex to "fit" the chapter. i use flashback which help but even they have to "flow" with the storyline so looking to see what anyone out there can suggest.

 

[Weird Harold]

Right now the sex is uninspired on my end which means it will read that way. I told the wife it's like "okay copy paste scene here" I have done as much as i can and am looking for suggestions. Problem is I like the sex to "fit" the chapter. i use flashback which help but even they have to "flow" with the storyline so looking to see what anyone out there can suggest.

The only thing I can suggest is to write a scene where your characters discuss the lack of variety in their sex with each other. See what ideas THEY can come up with to keep things interesting -- if nothing else, you can use it to justify a chapter or two without them together.

 

[sr71plt]

I'd suggest finding an end to that humongous work and going on to something fresh--or introducing change that redirects/rejuvenates the work. Have the central characters move on and/or move away and then back in a new way.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I know the feeling! I gave up on one series because of that. My plan is to re-write it some damn day, with a lot more plot and a lot more UST (Unrequited Sexual Tension) and space the sex scenes much further apart. Rely more on a plot-- some sort of plot.

 

[lovecraft68]

I know the feeling! I gave up on one series because of that. My plan is to re-write it some damn day, with a lot more plot and a lot more UST (Unrequited Sexual Tension) and space the sex scenes much further apart. Rely more on a plot-- some sort of plot.

That's the thing the story is very plot laden with the obvious will they end up a couple to an entire sub plot of blackmail/ addiction and mental illness. Oh yeah by the way it's a very cheery series!

 

[lovecraft68]

I'd suggest finding an end to that humongous work and going on to something fresh--or introducing change that redirects/rejuvenates the work. Have the central characters move on and/or move away and then back in a new way.

I have the ending and last 10 chapters outlined certainly can't quit. Just need to get a few new erotic twists in there. I've even tossed in a public sex scene ,and a car blowjob, sex in an airport bathroom. I mean I am trying.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I have the ending and last 10 chapters outlined certainly can't quit. Just need to get a few new erotic twists in there. I've even tossed in a public sex scene ,and a car blowjob, sex in an airport bathroom. I mean I am trying.

I think you might be missing emotional variations. A lot of sex is in the mind, you know.

These can be negative;
Angry sex
Sex even though someone is grief-stricken or depressed or unwilling
or positive;
Sex in a moment of triumph
Sex on a verrry lazy hot summer day
or a bit perverse;
Sex while envisioning one's partner as a baby--
Sex while envisioning oneself as devouring one's partner
which can be only in one person's mind, or else be made overt.

IMO, brain sex is a great way of using the sex scenes to move the plot forward too.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think you might be missing emotional variations. A lot of sex is in the mind, you know.

These can be negative;
Angry sex
Sex even though someone is grief-stricken or depressed or unwilling
or positive;
Sex in a moment of triumph
Sex on a verrry lazy hot summer day
or a bit perverse;
Sex while envisioning one's partner as a baby--
Sex while envisioning oneself as devouring one's partner
which can be only in one person's mind, or else be made overt.

IMO, brain sex is a great way of using the sex scenes to move the plot forward too.

Sex while envisioning one's partner as a baby--
Sex while envisioning oneself as devouring one's partner

What?? Those two are a little twisted even for me. I have used the "emotional" especially the angry sex. maybe I'll just go with
"And this is where they fuck!"
I will plod on. Thing is when finished I have an editor that is going to help me whittle this thing down to something that can be self published. First thing to go is a lot of the sex. I have chapters that contain it because this is a sex site so I been putting it in spots that to me would ork better with out it. Chapters that should end with them comforting each other not fucking. But I'm using a sex site to get the practice and experience so...

 

[Stella_Omega]

What?? Those two are a little twisted even for me.

Some Satanist you are.

 

[lovecraft68]

Some Satanist you are. [/QUOTE

i am neither a child molester nor a cannibal. If that gets me kicked out of the hellfire club so be it!

 

[Stella_Omega]

i am neither a child molester nor a cannibal. If that gets me kicked out of the hellfire club so be it!

Oh, nothing so literal-- use your intellect and imagination. Envision.

 

[lovecraft68]

Oh, nothing so literal-- use your intellect and imagination. Envision.

Intellect? Oh, hey that's what they have over on the general board! Think I'll stay here and be dense.
All kidding aside the fantasy of devouring ones mate (which obviously has to stay in fantasy) is something I have never come across. Seriously the weirdest thing I ever heard of and I forgot the name and am to lazy to google it is a sexual desire to have a limb amputated. I read it in an article years ago because some sicko found another sicko and convinced them to lop his damn arm off.

Guess you can only have sex like 4 times in your life. Unless you consider toes and fingers limbs then you can get some action!

 

[Stella_Omega]

 

[venuzian]

Why re-write the Kama Sutra ?

I feel your pain, been there, but think about it ; by the time two people have had sex 40 times, especially if they are close relatives I would think they'd be in: "if it aint broke don't fix it " mode. They know what works and they are pretty much just aiming for the finish line. Why not re-visit certain acts describing to your readers in DETAIL WHY he- she- they like to do it a certain way. paint a vivid picture of every feeling, sight, sound, taste and smell, they enjoy about a particular act that makes it their preference.

 

[PineMan30]

Some time ago I learned through a relative's research into the family tree that my late grandfather was the result of an incestuous brothr / sister relationship.

The obvious notion in the story could be that the sister becomes pregnant, but it could also come to light that someone else in the family was also conceived as the result of incest, making it appear to be a family trait.

Then, rather than simply brother / sister, once the cat's out of the bag regarding further incest in the family, there could be multi generational incest introduced - with grandparents for instance.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Lovecraft, I go with sr and stella. A monumental series of chapters is like a TV soap and this cannot be sustained within a 'closed' relationship. Using stella's advice of emotional/physical stimuli seems pretty good to me.

Just my 2 cents, but why not challenge the siblings relationship. If they meet a couple who are entranced by them and try to seduce them (no sex - just arousing passions) then you get all kinds of opportunity to have sex scenes between the two arising from jealousy, regret, apology, even re-affirmation of love.

When you get to the stage of 'insert sex scene here' then you've stopped writing erotica, IMO.

 

[lovecraft68]

Some time ago I learned through a relative's research into the family tree that my late grandfather was the result of an incestuous brothr / sister relationship.

The obvious notion in the story could be that the sister becomes pregnant, but it could also come to light that someone else in the family was also conceived as the result of incest, making it appear to be a family trait.

Then, rather than simply brother / sister, once the cat's out of the bag regarding further incest in the family, there could be multi generational incest introduced - with grandparents for instance.

Interesting concept and one I have debated going with as Mark/Megan were not raised by the real parents. the qucik story there is Matthew marries Julia, they have Megan, Julia is very meek and sheltered Matthew is a charismatic ladykiller who dabbles in the occult and is a paranoid schizophrenic. he begins beating and controlling her then leaves. Julia gets restraining roders and finds out she is pregnant with mark. when Mark is borm she uses her maiden name and father unknown on the B.C. because of this mark/megan do not appear brother nad sister legally. Julia falls into drufgs and prostition and gives the kids to the state. They are put on separate homes that was supposed to be temporary until the ycould find a place for both they never get reunited. megan ends up sexually abused Mark physically beaten. megan is brought into a good home at and adopted at 12 when she is 18 she discovers Mark in a group home. he doesn't speak and has rage issues. she egts her parents to take him in she seduces him 2 years later. what I have toyed with is Matthew possible being Julia's half or maybe even full brother.
On the otherside Megan cannot have childrenbecause of damage from being sexually abused at a young age. Mark had a vas at the age of 20 after meeting his real father in an institutuion Mark has the same mental condition and does not want to reproduce. Now seriously the reason I did this is that although everything on this site is a suspension of reality certain things get to me. one is incest pregancy because lets face it odds are the baby will have serious problems (although in the stories I've read here that never happens) I also get a kick out of stories where the guys dumping gallons of cum in but they never ge tpregnant megans condition takes all that away. as far as making the parents brother/sister I'm not falling into my own trap as although physically beautiful Mark has amental illness and Megan spent years on drugs an dalcohol so they had aberrations they were mentlal not physica.
Whew! see what you did? made me go through the whole shebang here! Actually thanks that was good practice
Still not seeing where it helps with an original sex scene unless you were suggesting brining in gramps for some fun(ugh)

 

[lovecraft68]

Lovecraft, I go with sr and stella. A monumental series of chapters is like a TV soap and this cannot be sustained within a 'closed' relationship. Using stella's advice of emotional/physical stimuli seems pretty good to me.

Just my 2 cents, but why not challenge the siblings relationship. If they meet a couple who are entranced by them and try to seduce them (no sex - just arousing passions) then you get all kinds of opportunity to have sex scenes between the two arising from jealousy, regret, apology, even re-affirmation of love.

When you get to the stage of 'insert sex scene here' then you've stopped writing erotica, IMO.

Appreciate the 2 cents. Thing is the 2 of them have been "Siblings with benefits" for close to 20 years. (series starts in the now then becaomes flashbacks of their lives) the other lover Jealousy/game was done when they were younger and each had someone as a "cover" so people wouldn't suspect they were lovers. The sister spent 10 years in hardcore addiction which left any type of relationship off the table, she has been sober for 5 years and looking for "true love" plot of the story is Mark now realizes Megan is his true love and always has been he lays it on the line for her and she is trying to figure out where her heart lies and if the ycan get away with it as the parents never knew and he is a public figure who calls a lot of attention upon himself. I think I agree with you and sr and stella the length is the issue even soaps move their characters around hell Marlena had more lovers in days of our lives than i can count (all those damn roman clones!) I think my solution for now is to put myself at the mercy of my readers and have a couple of chapters where the yare with past lovers and there is no sex bewteen the 2. The one benefit I have isa 25+ chapters in I truly believe that my readership (my views votes have been all but identical fro the last 8 so I am lookingat a core audience at this point) is following for story over erotica. hell I even had a reader who has been talking to me since my first chapter say that the sex in the 5 chapter Lex Talionis pissed her off because it broke up the story line! I will try breaking them up for a chapter or two, I do have some chapters coming the sex will be important to the chapter and therefore be better written and "flow" just having trouble with chpaters that should remain "plot" but need the sex to satisfy the site.