Amicus: Cancer Free....for now....

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This is not a thread for congratulations or sympathy; I will assume the good wishes of any and all.

I write this and offer it publically in the hope that others so afflicted might find solace and comfort in your battles.

My particular brand is Bladder Cancer; a surprise to me, as if anything, after fifty years of two pack a day smoking, I expected lung cancer or throat cancer and in my profession, radio and television, I stressed my vocal cords constantly.

During the past four years of treatment, being who I am, I researched the causes and treatment of bladder cancer and discovered that smoking is not the only cause and perhaps not even the primary one.

Unless you have an annual full range physical examination, which I did while serving in the military, then early bladder cancer can't be detected.

It is only when you begin to notice blood in your urine that the alarm bells begin ringing.

After a divorce, I spent twenty years chasing kids from Washington to Oregon, to California, to Mississippi, to Arkansas, Georgia and North Carolina, taking any job I could find to be near my children. During those times, I worked in hazardous jobs, a Nuclear Plant, Fibreglass factory and construction crews where I inhaled a variety of toxic fumes, dust and dirt and whatnot.

Bladder cancer affects both men and women, but mostly men, and begins to occur when you reach 60 years of age...the research doesn't say why it appears at that age...but hell, don't get old, there ain't no future in it!

This may gross you out and I apologize for that, but the earlier you have it done, the better your chance of survival.

Something called a Fowley Catheter, if I recall, I recommend the French 16mm, about a quarter inch in diameter, is inserted into the Penis, for a male, I have no idea how it works for the ladies, and a video camera is inserted to look into the bladder itself.

I tried that once without anethesia, then I had them put me under for the following nine procedures; it is not a fun thing to undergo.

If cancerous growth is observed, laser technology is used to burn away the lesions, if they have not penetrated the bladder wall.

It is called a 'Syscoscopy', which took me two years to learn how to pronounce without stuttering, 'Sysco' for short.

This is an 'outpatient' procedure, but if you are under anesthesia, you are not permitted to drive for 24 hours, so you need someone for transportation.

Of course, your Urologist and your Primary Care Physician will lecture you about smoking and drinking and having any kind of fun at all...ignore them.

There is more....after such a procedure, the 'sysco', you will be blessed wear a catheter and a urine bag, two sizes, one for daytime, a larger one for overnight, and, you may figure it out, you can only sleep on your back and hope you don't toss and turn enough to give a 'yank' on that ten inches of quarter inch tubing hanging over the side of the bed.

You wear that for a week to ten days and take all the anti-biotics prescribed and then return to the doctor's office for the fun part....pulling that tube out. It stays in because a small balloon is expanded in the bladder to keep it in.

I recall my first 'removal' of the catheter...I was understandable a bit concerned because it really did feel all that good just having that device inside me....but before I could express my anxiety, the Doc, yanked it out and smiled.

Argh...said I, several times.

I went through two years of that, every three months, and each time, new cancerous growths were detected and removed. I might add, that after wearing the catheter for a period of time, where you urinate continuosly, you have to learn all over again how to go pee...when the urge arrives...not fun.

None of that worked, they found more cancer each time. Somewhere last Spring, they started me on what they called a BCG infusion, once a week for six weeks, a month off, then three more weeks.

You can look it up, but BCG is the infustion of active Tuberculosis into the bladder, that causes your immune system to rise up and fight like hell to expell the foreign threat. I have no idea what contractions feels like for a woman giving birth, but, after about an hour, you are in a hospital bed and must turn every fifteen minutes, one quarter of the way around, back, side, front, side, for two hours...after an hour, the gut wrenching contractions or seizures, begin, and the attending physican or nurse, must release the pressure and allow the infusion to be passed....

Did that...over a period of two months last spring, had another 'sysco' a couple months later and....there was still cancerous growths...which were removed yet again without damage to the walls of the bladder.

That was a real low point for me...after all that pain, week after week and then to find out I still had the cancer.

My next 'sysco' a look inside to see what's there, was the first week of October, about a month ago...no cancer!

The next one is sometime in late February or March, but I still haven't mentally recovered from the past three years and that thing I do....ahm, writing, has happened only on this forum...the fiction just won't flow and I have five novels and a book of poetry screaming at me every day.

Gentlemen...if you are of the age I indicated, bite the bullet, go to an Urologist and tell them you want a Syscoscopy. I wasn't that smart. I waited, hoping it would go away until one night I could not pass urine and some poor little 26 year old girl at the emergency room had to force a catheter in to drain over 1200cc's of really goopy junk.

I was in the hospital for four days and had two units of blood transfused. I snet that little girl a dozen roses...she was in tears at the pain she was causing....

I am not an open, sharing person, so this is somewhat of a first for me and I repeat, congratulations and sympathy is not the intent of this, but I hope that perhaps someone, a smoker or one who has worked in polluted areas, inhaling toxic dust and fumes, may take heed and avoid what I have gone through.

I always learn the hard way. heh.

I remain:

Amicus
 
Ami, you might not neccessarily want it, but you're getting it anyway. I'm glad you're cancer free right now, that's fantastic.
 
Thank you English Lady, you are very kind in your thoughts.

I am a pretty stubborn old shit, dinosaur or neanderthal, living in the world I grew up in...as...I think...most of us do...I don't disdain faith and belief, I think it essential for all humans in our struggle to deal with life and the things it brings to us, wanted or not.

Thank you for your kind thoughts and consideration.

:rose:

ami
 
Great news, Ami. You've got my best wishes whether you want them or not. :) :rose:
 
Ouch!

I've had investigations in that area - nothing was found - but I remember the procedures. I wouldn't want to undergo them again.

Congratulations and best wishes for your future health. Perhaps now you can get the impetus back to write your stories and poetry.

Best wishes from Og.
 
Ami,
Thanks for telling all, and fingers crossed for no recurrence.
I've had a catheter fitted; Stings, a bit, don't it.
I do not want another.
Best Wishes.
HP
 
AMICUS

Keep on truckin!

I'm presently reading a book about how cancer happens. Technical but interesting.
 
First off, a gratuitous and unsolicited congratulations, and wish for continued good health.

With that out of the way... ;) Cool story, bro. A somewhat harrowing topic from the inside persrective, thanks for sharing. I'm not yet in the risk zone for anything, but I'm paranoid as hell about all kinds of ailments. So it's good advise and something I've lived by so far, to check oneself early and ofter rather than too late.

Cheers,

L
 
Yikes! That's some harrowing tale, Ami. Your tenaciousness in fighting this killer is to be applauded. I submit to an exam once a year at the advice of my Urologist for someone of my advanced age...it ain't no fun, but the alternative isn't either. I heartily echo your advice to all men to get themselves checked regularly once you round turn #60.

Keep up the good fight, hang in there and best of luck to you. :)
 
Congratulations, Amicus. We may fight about everything else, but I think we can agree that cancer sucks, and succumbing to it is a pretty poor way of dodging an argument. :cool:

Glad you're better.

--dr.M. (bleeding heart, as always.)
 
Congratulations.

Great news!

Now we and you can all return to the time when 'up yours!" had its traditional scope of meaning. My wife's father fought and survived bladder cancer, as well.
 
We may not see eye to eye, but I never wish any ill toward anyone. Glad to learn you are now cancer free. My dad went through the same thing about ten years ago, not as extensively (only the 'first round' was necessary) and survived.

Wishing you well (whether you want it or not ;)) and continued good health.
 
This is not a thread for congratulations or sympathy; I will assume the good wishes of any and all.

I write this and offer it publically in the hope that others so afflicted might find solace and comfort in your battles.

My particular brand is Bladder Cancer; a surprise to me, as if anything, after fifty years of two pack a day smoking, I expected lung cancer or throat cancer and in my profession, radio and television, I stressed my vocal cords constantly.

During the past four years of treatment, being who I am, I researched the causes and treatment of bladder cancer and discovered that smoking is not the only cause and perhaps not even the primary one.

Unless you have an annual full range physical examination, which I did while serving in the military, then early bladder cancer can't be detected.

It is only when you begin to notice blood in your urine that the alarm bells begin ringing.

After a divorce, I spent twenty years chasing kids from Washington to Oregon, to California, to Mississippi, to Arkansas, Georgia and North Carolina, taking any job I could find to be near my children. During those times, I worked in hazardous jobs, a Nuclear Plant, Fibreglass factory and construction crews where I inhaled a variety of toxic fumes, dust and dirt and whatnot.

Bladder cancer affects both men and women, but mostly men, and begins to occur when you reach 60 years of age...the research doesn't say why it appears at that age...but hell, don't get old, there ain't no future in it!

This may gross you out and I apologize for that, but the earlier you have it done, the better your chance of survival.

Something called a Fowley Catheter, if I recall, I recommend the French 16mm, about a quarter inch in diameter, is inserted into the Penis, for a male, I have no idea how it works for the ladies, and a video camera is inserted to look into the bladder itself.

I tried that once without anethesia, then I had them put me under for the following nine procedures; it is not a fun thing to undergo.

If cancerous growth is observed, laser technology is used to burn away the lesions, if they have not penetrated the bladder wall.

It is called a 'Syscoscopy', which took me two years to learn how to pronounce without stuttering, 'Sysco' for short.

This is an 'outpatient' procedure, but if you are under anesthesia, you are not permitted to drive for 24 hours, so you need someone for transportation.

Of course, your Urologist and your Primary Care Physician will lecture you about smoking and drinking and having any kind of fun at all...ignore them.

There is more....after such a procedure, the 'sysco', you will be blessed wear a catheter and a urine bag, two sizes, one for daytime, a larger one for overnight, and, you may figure it out, you can only sleep on your back and hope you don't toss and turn enough to give a 'yank' on that ten inches of quarter inch tubing hanging over the side of the bed.

You wear that for a week to ten days and take all the anti-biotics prescribed and then return to the doctor's office for the fun part....pulling that tube out. It stays in because a small balloon is expanded in the bladder to keep it in.

I recall my first 'removal' of the catheter...I was understandable a bit concerned because it really did feel all that good just having that device inside me....but before I could express my anxiety, the Doc, yanked it out and smiled.

Argh...said I, several times.

I went through two years of that, every three months, and each time, new cancerous growths were detected and removed. I might add, that after wearing the catheter for a period of time, where you urinate continuosly, you have to learn all over again how to go pee...when the urge arrives...not fun.

None of that worked, they found more cancer each time. Somewhere last Spring, they started me on what they called a BCG infusion, once a week for six weeks, a month off, then three more weeks.

You can look it up, but BCG is the infustion of active Tuberculosis into the bladder, that causes your immune system to rise up and fight like hell to expell the foreign threat. I have no idea what contractions feels like for a woman giving birth, but, after about an hour, you are in a hospital bed and must turn every fifteen minutes, one quarter of the way around, back, side, front, side, for two hours...after an hour, the gut wrenching contractions or seizures, begin, and the attending physican or nurse, must release the pressure and allow the infusion to be passed....

Did that...over a period of two months last spring, had another 'sysco' a couple months later and....there was still cancerous growths...which were removed yet again without damage to the walls of the bladder.

That was a real low point for me...after all that pain, week after week and then to find out I still had the cancer.

My next 'sysco' a look inside to see what's there, was the first week of October, about a month ago...no cancer!

The next one is sometime in late February or March, but I still haven't mentally recovered from the past three years and that thing I do....ahm, writing, has happened only on this forum...the fiction just won't flow and I have five novels and a book of poetry screaming at me every day.

Gentlemen...if you are of the age I indicated, bite the bullet, go to an Urologist and tell them you want a Syscoscopy. I wasn't that smart. I waited, hoping it would go away until one night I could not pass urine and some poor little 26 year old girl at the emergency room had to force a catheter in to drain over 1200cc's of really goopy junk.

I was in the hospital for four days and had two units of blood transfused. I snet that little girl a dozen roses...she was in tears at the pain she was causing....

I am not an open, sharing person, so this is somewhat of a first for me and I repeat, congratulations and sympathy is not the intent of this, but I hope that perhaps someone, a smoker or one who has worked in polluted areas, inhaling toxic dust and fumes, may take heed and avoid what I have gone through.

I always learn the hard way. heh.

I remain:

Amicus
I'm glad you pulled through.

I was wearing a Fowley catheter four months, two months in the hospital and two months at home. Badass bacterial infection, bloody urine. There is no way to overstate the pain when the Foley gets plugged with clotted blood and the nurse has to flush it out. These occasions were always accompanied a bladder spasm which is pain of an entirely different class. They gave me a shot of morphine every time they flushed it (two or three times a day). The morphine didn't do much for the pain, per se, but it changed my frame of mind, so I didn't care about it so much.

When they sent me home with the catheter still plugged in, I was curious and googled "Fowley Catheter. They had video clips showing how to insert it, and on one of the sites I clicked on, they were selling them as sex toys. I also learned that some patients had sex with the catheter still in their dicks. I wonder what it would be like to have a bladder spasm and an orgasm simultaneously.
 
Quite the journey you've made on your Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare.......I could give a fuck less how you survived, less how much you've 'suffered'.....but I take a sick, twisted delight in the fact that you use a Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare....as your path to health.....
Only a fuckwit like you would begrudge anyone the right to health care....but you do.....ain't them convictions and principles grand when you weigh them versus living a few years or months longer?
You are truly one sad fuck........................Namaste'
 
Well, well

Quite the journey you've made on your Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare.......I could give a fuck less how you survived, less how much you've 'suffered'.....but I take a sick, twisted delight in the fact that you use a Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare....as your path to health.....
Only a fuckwit like you would begrudge anyone the right to health care....but you do.....ain't them convictions and principles grand when you weigh them versus living a few years or months longer?
You are truly one sad fuck........................Namaste'

You are one little miserable cock sucking son-of-a-bitch aren't you.

Loring
 
You are one little miserable cock sucking son-of-a-bitch aren't you.

Loring
No, Dragonlips is a heterosexual guy. He eats pussy.

"Cocksucking" is not an insult.


There is a lot of misery in the world these days, though. And if you look for my comment here, I wondered who paid for Mr Libertarian's health care.

I can only hope that I have a chance to be diagnosed early enough to make a difference, should cancer befall me. I don't get regular checkups. I can't afford a regular family doctor.
 
I'm glad you pulled through.

I was wearing a Fowley catheter four months, two months in the hospital and two months at home. Badass bacterial infection, bloody urine. There is no way to overstate the pain when the Foley gets plugged with clotted blood and the nurse has to flush it out. These occasions were always accompanied a bladder spasm which is pain of an entirely different class. They gave me a shot of morphine every time they flushed it (two or three times a day). The morphine didn't do much for the pain, per se, but it changed my frame of mind, so I didn't care about it so much.

When they sent me home with the catheter still plugged in, I was curious and googled "Fowley Catheter. They had video clips showing how to insert it, and on one of the sites I clicked on, they were selling them as sex toys. I also learned that some patients had sex with the catheter still in their dicks. I wonder what it would be like to have a bladder spasm and an orgasm simultaneously.[/
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~~~

Thank you, squarejohn, and everyone with kind words, thank you indeed. And you know all the gritty details of hygiene procedures, using chlorine bleach to kill the BCG component, if you went through that. The was a recent study concerning the male having several subconscious erections during sleep. I did not expect such an event to occur as I had that quarter inch plastic tube going a good ten inches up into my bladder, but it did, and not knowing just what the collateral effect might be, I tried wishing it away, but it was insistent, made me feel a bit more male and human, and did no damage.

Your last two sentences astound me as even walking around with the catheter in, hooked to an urine bag, is most irritating, if not down right painful and uncomfortable. But then I am not into pain as a stimulant, so I don't know about any of that.

Comgratulations on getting through your ordeal as well; I feel fortunate that no infections occured and while before I went through mine, I never thought I could bear the pain of such a procedure, but I even managed to remove the catheter myself after the first couple times....I think the damned old doc got a rise from yanking it out of me....so I bore the pain by myself and just growled a lot during the process.

"Don't get old; there ain't no future in it!"

My kids have picked up on me saying that and chuckle each time I repeat it; kind of a rite of passage for us seniors now or is it 'we' seniors now?

For those gentlemen in the audience....again...bite the bullet, have an Urologist take a look inside....it takes just a few minutes and you will survive and have a better feeling about your health in that area...Do it!:)

Amicus
 
Ok

No, Dragonlips is a heterosexual guy. He eats pussy.

"Cocksucking" is not an insult.


There is a lot of misery in the world these days, though. And if you look for my comment here, I wondered who paid for Mr Libertarian's health care.

I can only hope that I have a chance to be diagnosed early enough to make a difference, should cancer befall me. I don't get regular checkups. I can't afford a regular family doctor.

You're probably right Stella but if he's really hetro, it might, hopefully, insult him, it doesn't really matter; and while cocksucking might not be an insult to you or me, I can hope can't I?

Let me get personal here for a moment. (If/when) you become a male, will you be endowed with a male sex organ and would you be pleasured (now there's an ancient usage) if I sucked it?

As far as Ami's health is concerned I'm not concerned. I had one private message from him and decided to let him play in his own sandbox and he does.

I assume that his medical costs were covered by insurance; if not then he now owes somebody $200K or more. That would be true in my case at least. If he did this on charity then he's not as intelligent as he would appear to be and in fact is a fraud.

You're completely right about the extant misery. Everything from old fashioned, no-money poverty to pedophilia. I don't have an answer and governments don't have an answer either, that's obvious and as far as cancer is concerned, it depends on the type but I've decided to write au revois et finis if that's on my agenda.


Loring
 
You are one little miserable cock sucking son-of-a-bitch aren't you.

Loring

No, as a matter of fact, I'm not. I'm a well-adjusted, balanced, heterosexual (thank you Stella for pointing that out) - I know several bisexuals - male and female - cock sucking is a natural and enjoyable part of their sexual expression - it's only uptight, inhibited, small-minded twits like yourself who think there is anything wrong with it.....I love having mine teased, tasted, and twirled very much.
And by the way - I'm not miserable in the least.....especially after having pissed you off.....that's just sauce for the goose, as they say.....
My point (I'm explaining because you really need some things explained to you - not to worry - I deal with concept-challenged conservatives on a daily basis) is that while AmiCoot decries so-called 'socialized' medicine, he has no qualms about using it to save his hypocritical hide. Note that I don't begrudge him the opportunity to have treatment at my expense (I pay a fair amount of taxes) but I do call him on his OWN hypocrisy.
But then, to be a practicing conservative is to be an ardent hypocrite. You will have to ponder those words and I'm not sure that you really understand the concept. I'm sure that you don't.
Since AmiCoot has neither the moral nor the intellectual chops to engage me in meaningful debate, he has to rely on you, an alt, to do his grunt work.
If he has an issue with me, he should have the nuts to engage, not get a half wit like you to try.
PS - I'm not little......but if it makes you happy to think of me that way - knock yerself out.
 
Quite the journey you've made on your Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare.......I could give a fuck less how you survived, less how much you've 'suffered'.....but I take a sick, twisted delight in the fact that you use a Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare....as your path to health.....
Only a fuckwit like you would begrudge anyone the right to health care....but you do.....ain't them convictions and principles grand when you weigh them versus living a few years or months longer?
You are truly one sad fuck........................Namaste'


ye gods but you are one sad git.
Expressing your point might have had more impact if you'd written it better.
We might disagree with Ami's points as expressed, but it's better that he's there to make them.

Just a thought
 
Quite the journey you've made on your Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare.......I could give a fuck less how you survived, less how much you've 'suffered'.....but I take a sick, twisted delight in the fact that you use a Government Sponsored Health Care Plan: Medicare....as your path to health.....
Only a fuckwit like you would begrudge anyone the right to health care....but you do.....ain't them convictions and principles grand when you weigh them versus living a few years or months longer?
You are truly one sad fuck........................Namaste'

This is just plain nasty and there's no reason for it. Karma is a bitch and an attitude such as this will erode your point standing in a hurry.

As a relatively healthy man, who still works and pays taxes, I don't begrudge Amicus his Medicare. What goes around, comes around. Sometimes it stay awhile. No point is aggravating the beast.

So, to Amicus, I say, I am happy to learn you are doing better and hope your recovery is comfortable. Also, you're welcome.
 
Ami, I'm glad your long battle has taken a turn, it appears, for the better. Good luck, and see you around on this forum!
 
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