Left-Right Homophobia

[Littlefinger]

So many times I see on here those with "Left" and Democratic leanings accusing others of being homophobic and championing for the gays. And then not 10 posts later, these same people turn around and imply that their Right-wing/conservative/Republican opponents are homosexuals, the implication being that it's a bad thing.

No, I get it. Because "vetteturd" is an old wrinkly conservative or whatever the hell he is, he will be offended by the implication that he is somehow(for someone in his views) a "lesser man" for liking other men. But isn't that offensive to homosexuals?

It's like, if I were in disagreement with IrezumiKiss and I imply that him being black somehow fits him into a predetermined stereotype and makes him inferior to myself. Sure, I'm not racist and I only use it because I know it'll get his goat, but the fact that I used it at all DOES make me a racist(or at least appear to be even if I don't really feel the color of his skin has anything to do with anything).

And since I know someone out there will be like

"Calling a conservative a fag = degrading someone we all like because of their race?"

I'll use another example. Let's say I were to imply that IrezumiKiss was a woman for having his opinions and yet then I turn around and express my love and respect for the female gender. Doesn't make sense, does it? So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

Oh, I'm so sorry, B-JBravo...but even if I did swing that way for a taste of your Geritol-enhanced peen, your best bottom bitch Eyer doesn't like men better than him usurping his rightful place in front of your wrinkly legs. And I wouldn't deprive you of the pleasure of his familiar tongue nestled between your ass cheeks just the way you like it every time your open your mouth.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Homos are inferior.

 

[Littlefinger]

Homos are inferior.

Oh, good. Thank you.~

Iggy.

 

[richard_daily]

So many times I see on here those with "Left" and Democratic leanings accusing others of being homophobic and championing for the gays. And then not 10 posts later, these same people turn around and imply that their Right-wing/conservative/Republican opponents are homosexuals, the implication being that it's a bad thing.

No, I get it. Because "vetteturd" is an old wrinkly conservative or whatever the hell he is, he will be offended by the implication that he is somehow(for someone in his views) a "lesser man" for liking other men. But isn't that offensive to homosexuals?

It's like, if I were in disagreement with IrezumiKiss and I imply that him being black somehow fits him into a predetermined stereotype and makes him inferior to myself. Sure, I'm not racist and I only use it because I know it'll get his goat, but the fact that I used it at all DOES make me a racist(or at least appear to be even if I don't really feel the color of his skin has anything to do with anything).

And since I know someone out there will be like

"Calling a conservative a fag = degrading someone we all like because of their race?"

I'll use another example. Let's say I were to imply that IrezumiKiss was a woman for having his opinions and yet then I turn around and express my love and respect for the female gender. Doesn't make sense, does it? So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

No, it's not that vetteman will be "offended", it's that he's actually in the closet and his hatred of gays is a pretty clear sign of that.

I can provide tons of studies that back this up if you'd like.

It's not an insult, it's a challenge for him to lead his life the way that his god made him.

It's also to point out his hypocritical behavior.

 

[John Doe]

So many times I see on here those with "Left" and Democratic leanings accusing others of being homophobic and championing for the gays. And then not 10 posts later, these same people turn around and imply that their Right-wing/conservative/Republican opponents are homosexuals, the implication being that it's a bad thing.

No, I get it. Because "vetteturd" is an old wrinkly conservative or whatever the hell he is, he will be offended by the implication that he is somehow(for someone in his views) a "lesser man" for liking other men. But isn't that offensive to homosexuals?

It's like, if I were in disagreement with IrezumiKiss and I imply that him being black somehow fits him into a predetermined stereotype and makes him inferior to myself. Sure, I'm not racist and I only use it because I know it'll get his goat, but the fact that I used it at all DOES make me a racist(or at least appear to be even if I don't really feel the color of his skin has anything to do with anything).

And since I know someone out there will be like

"Calling a conservative a fag = degrading someone we all like because of their race?"

I'll use another example. Let's say I were to imply that IrezumiKiss was a woman for having his opinions and yet then I turn around and express my love and respect for the female gender. Doesn't make sense, does it? So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

LOL!

No.

 

[Powertone]

No, it's not that vetteman will be "offended", it's that he's actually in the closet and his hatred of gays is a pretty clear sign of that.

I can provide tons of studies that back this up if you'd like.

It's not an insult, it's a challenge for him to lead his life the way that his god made him.

It's also to point out his hypocritical behavior.

the shirtless wonder , ladies & gentlemen

 

[where]

So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

see the post below.

Homos are inferior.

the shirtless wonder , ladies & gentlemen

envy is a very ugly emotion you know.

 

[richard_daily]

envy is a very ugly emotion you know.

I'm sure Semandude can get laid. He just has to pay for it.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

So many times I see on here those with "Left" and Democratic leanings accusing others of being homophobic and championing for the gays. And then not 10 posts later, these same people turn around and imply that their Right-wing/conservative/Republican opponents are homosexuals, the implication being that it's a bad thing.

No, I get it. Because "vetteturd" is an old wrinkly conservative or whatever the hell he is, he will be offended by the implication that he is somehow(for someone in his views) a "lesser man" for liking other men. But isn't that offensive to homosexuals?

It's like, if I were in disagreement with IrezumiKiss and I imply that him being black somehow fits him into a predetermined stereotype and makes him inferior to myself. Sure, I'm not racist and I only use it because I know it'll get his goat, but the fact that I used it at all DOES make me a racist(or at least appear to be even if I don't really feel the color of his skin has anything to do with anything).

And since I know someone out there will be like

"Calling a conservative a fag = degrading someone we all like because of their race?"

I'll use another example. Let's say I were to imply that IrezumiKiss was a woman for having his opinions and yet then I turn around and express my love and respect for the female gender. Doesn't make sense, does it? So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

I've never implied through my words that homosexuality's a bad thing. I've never even used the F-bomb in or out of context to insinuate any distaste over homosexuality, of which I have none. Stop reaching and keep it simple, Simon. Vetteman's just a homophobic bitch in denial and it's easy to staple his nuts up on the wall when he wags them. However, the nuance of the construction of the topic of homosexuality in direct derogatory relation to those who would never show understanding, compassion or consideration towards those in the lifestyle in real life is easily misunderstood or glossed over via communication on internet forums.

Now, on the other paw, if I were to point out that Mordeth is a pussy for trying to use my name in making a weak point in order to put some apple-polished spotlight shine on his ass over a contrived, last-minute faux concern over the acceptance of homosexuality, yeah, THAT'S something concrete we can all understand, sans nuance.

Try again, Sharapova. Your racket's got holes in it.

LOL!

No.

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[richard_daily]

It's simple Mordeth, misery loves company, even if they have to conjure it up with a hallucination or two. Daily, Zoomie, constantly strive to expand their minority social position. In their mind there's strength in numbers, it's just that they haven't mastered their arithmetic.

That doesn't make sense in the context of this thread, or in any regard for that matter.

It's well-known around here that you like dudes, and that you hide it behind a bigoted "gays aren't real men" persona.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's simple Mordeth, misery loves company, even if they have to conjure it up with a hallucination or two. Daily, Zoomie, constantly strive to expand their minority social position. In their mind there's strength in numbers, it's just that they haven't mastered their arithmetic.

It's a safe bet that you will never, ever have to worry about "strength in numbers" concerning your mind, Hot Wheels. Unless you call negative integers representing your brain a form of "strength." Now there's some arithmetic you don't have to finish the first grade to comprehend!

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

T0: JAMESBJOHNSON

This is the GB. You are free to say anything, that you would want to say.

But, I do not agree with you.

 

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[Karen Kraft]

So many times I see on here those with "Left" and Democratic leanings accusing others of being homophobic and championing for the gays. And then not 10 posts later, these same people turn around and imply that their Right-wing/conservative/Republican opponents are homosexuals, the implication being that it's a bad thing.

No, I get it. Because "vetteturd" is an old wrinkly conservative or whatever the hell he is, he will be offended by the implication that he is somehow(for someone in his views) a "lesser man" for liking other men. But isn't that offensive to homosexuals?

It's like, if I were in disagreement with IrezumiKiss and I imply that him being black somehow fits him into a predetermined stereotype and makes him inferior to myself. Sure, I'm not racist and I only use it because I know it'll get his goat, but the fact that I used it at all DOES make me a racist(or at least appear to be even if I don't really feel the color of his skin has anything to do with anything).

And since I know someone out there will be like

"Calling a conservative a fag = degrading someone we all like because of their race?"

I'll use another example. Let's say I were to imply that IrezumiKiss was a woman for having his opinions and yet then I turn around and express my love and respect for the female gender. Doesn't make sense, does it? So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

Simple answer:

Being gay, black, female, Hispanic, etc., is only valid (according to members of the Pro-Terrorist Party [now in disgrace]) if you also follow their very own party line. If not, you are a faggot, Uncle Tom, dyke, wetback, etc. Conservatives are not allowed to be any of these things.

See, left wing folks see women and all minorities as pets or slaves. Unruly pets and uppity slaves are labeled "stupid" right away -- just to be on the safe side. One exception: although he was a Republican, they still seem to give MLK a pass.

That said, indeed there are two major flavors of conservative Republicans: the more wealthy and establishment-oriented are the Bible thumping finger-wagging born-again folks. They don't like gay people because they invented some interpretation of the Bible that forbids that. Meanwhile, don't ever, even casually, start talking about Jesus and Peter....

The second major flavor of conservative Republicans is libertarian-oriented. They tend to self-identify as "Independents" and couldn't care less about gay marriage, pot-smoking, etc. They are extremely conservative in a finance and economic sense.

But all this is way too complex for the Pro-Terrorist Now-Disgraced Party. They lump ALL Republicans together, identifying them ALL as holier-than-thou moralists SO THAT WHEN one of them comes out- or is outed - the Pro-Terrorists start yelling "HYPOCRITE!" See, for the Pro-Terrorist types, it's never about what people actually DO; it's always about who other people "ARE." To them, ALL politics, is identification politics.

The end.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Ain't about the politics, it's about the person. Something that's lost on heads jumping into the show five minutes before closing time but writing reviews about shit like they saw the whole play from the start.

The strength of my numbers swept your numbers into the dustbin of history last night. Now there's some arithmetic for ya.

Wasn't much of the sweep y'all were jacking off about, though. Must be why I'm not seeing much dancing in the streets. We're still writing history, so best put your halfway-used dustbins back in the closet and have something to show for all that swagger you done got with your mouths, cuz the same wave that brought you in can take you out. And that ain't liberals talking that line, either.

 

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[Wrong Element]

So many times I see on here those with "Left" and Democratic leanings accusing others of being homophobic and championing for the gays. And then not 10 posts later, these same people turn around and imply that their Right-wing/conservative/Republican opponents are homosexuals, the implication being that it's a bad thing.

No, I get it. Because "vetteturd" is an old wrinkly conservative or whatever the hell he is, he will be offended by the implication that he is somehow(for someone in his views) a "lesser man" for liking other men. But isn't that offensive to homosexuals?

It's like, if I were in disagreement with IrezumiKiss and I imply that him being black somehow fits him into a predetermined stereotype and makes him inferior to myself. Sure, I'm not racist and I only use it because I know it'll get his goat, but the fact that I used it at all DOES make me a racist(or at least appear to be even if I don't really feel the color of his skin has anything to do with anything).

And since I know someone out there will be like

"Calling a conservative a fag = degrading someone we all like because of their race?"

I'll use another example. Let's say I were to imply that IrezumiKiss was a woman for having his opinions and yet then I turn around and express my love and respect for the female gender. Doesn't make sense, does it? So, why are conservatives all accused of homosexuality if it really is something we're all trying to appear grown-up about and accept?

Well, you wouldn't call Irezumi a woman because he isn't. There's no closet for black folks or women. (For obvious reasons, I'm not counting here the men who only pose as women for GB purposes.)

I'm not saying you're wrong, but people on the GB typically aren't terribly discriminating in the insults they choose. This isn't the Algonquin Round Table.

I think the accusation of homosexuality is less meant as a serious charge (at least in most cases--I can't think of any GB conservative who I seriously thought was a closeted gay) than it is hitting someone where they're emotionally vulnerable. If someone is a rabid homophobe, suggesting they're overcompensating for being gay themselves could be a way to tweak them. This might not be politically correct, but what are you going to do.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

We've already accomplished our mission, the Obama agenda is halted and his presidential hopes for 2012 are dashed. All else that is coming is gravy.

Riiiiight. If I recall, you ain't so good in playing Zoltar Speaks with these political predictions, guy.

 

[Wrong Element]

The strength of my numbers swept your numbers into the dustbin of history last night. Now there's some arithmetic for ya.

Interesting words, coming from one of the main proponents of the "Obama =arrogant" meme round these parts.

If I know these things go in cycles, someone 50 years my senior certainly should know the same thing.

 

[Littlefinger]

I've never implied through my words that homosexuality's a bad thing. I've never even used the F-bomb in or out of context to insinuate any distaste over homosexuality, of which I have none. Stop reaching and keep it simple, Simon. Vetteman's just a homophobic bitch in denial and it's easy to staple his nuts up on the wall when he wags them. However, the nuance of the construction of the topic of homosexuality in direct derogatory relation to those who would never show understanding, compassion or consideration towards those in the lifestyle in real life is easily misunderstood or glossed over via communication on internet forums.

Now, on the other paw, if I were to point out that Mordeth is a pussy for trying to use my name in making a weak point in order to put some apple-polished spotlight shine on his ass over a contrived, last-minute faux concern over the acceptance of homosexuality, yeah, THAT'S something concrete we can all understand, sans nuance.

Try again, Sharapova. Your racket's got holes in it.

I'm not going to try and convince you that I wasn't trying to personally attack you. It was just a question about tactics in general that seriously had me baffled and I used a recent example of what I saw going on between you and vetteman. That's all. Because I've seen it happen before with others and this time I was finally like "Alright, what the heck? Is there a reason for this? I thought IrezumiKiss was on the non-racial/homophobic/religious slur side?" If I could remember who the others I've seen were(because I only ever come here to skim occasionally) then I would have used them/included them instead.

I seriously am sorry for making you get defensive. Not my intention. But I thank you for responding anyway and I've got some responses to this that helps make things a bit clearer on the issue.

-Mordeth

 

[Cosmic Knight]

Homos are inferior.

Yup they sure is

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I'm not going to try and convince you that I wasn't trying to personally attack you. It was just a question about tactics in general that seriously had me baffled and I used a recent example of what I saw going on between you and vetteman. That's all. Because I've seen it happen before with others and this time I was finally like "Alright, what the heck? Is there a reason for this? I thought IrezumiKiss was on the non-racial/homophobic/religious slur side?" If I could remember who the others I've seen were(because I only ever come here to skim occasionally) then I would have used them/included them instead.

I seriously am sorry for making you get defensive. Not my intention. But I thank you for responding anyway and I've got some responses to this that helps make things a bit clearer on the issue.

-Mordeth

One thing I hope is more clear to you since you admitted coming here sporadically and aren't privy to a lot of the works, is that when you see two people going on about something and you don't know the whole story of why behind their going on about that something, if you want to make a related topic a point of issue for discussion, then you really should keep specific personalities out of it and refer to people regarding that topic in a general sense. Because then you keep the issue on point and names won't derail it. You don't really know the history behind the fighting or bickering or if it's just guys moderately ball-busting or creating serious animosity. So I'm seeing my name thrown down in it as a focus point, almost arbitrarily so, given the true, blatant, direct homophobia spoken by other more prolific heads here...and I'm like, "why you getting all up in our biz and acting like it's something that just started with us? Do you even know how the GB gets down in general when people start beef with each other?" Now I see that you don't. Even if you think you know someone, you really should ask first before making proclamations.

This is why I say, you're writing a review on a show you came late to featuring players you're not seeing fully dimensional. In using my words as an example, I don't think you understood that what's being spoken (from my side) isn't an attack on or belittlement of homosexuality, but instead a total diss on one particular person. Honestly, it would be the same towards anyone who wants static with me and thinks his cock swings two feet from the ground, but it ain't my fault that Vette's a righty and has a 1950's-era mindset of the world. I didn't make him wear those clothes, he put 'em on all by hisself.

 

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