How Christians spoil sex

[Liar]

Flamebait of the day.

He's got a point though. Although it's not Christians per se, as it is some Christian, top fed philosophies and politics.

I mean, here on Lit we have plenty of perverts with their own relationship to the god of their choice. And others too, I'm sure, who have been brought up with the notion of sex=sin and a foreboding 'don't have too much fun with it' kind of message.

It was cetainly all around even here in my secular upbringing. Not that sex in general was bad. But that any kind other than politically correct, sanitized, quiet vanilla intercourse between a loving monogamous couple, was something that only sickos, degenerates and probably pedophiles did.

Reality came as a bit of a surprise.

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http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/03/how-christians-spoil-sex/?iref=obnetwork

TRENDING: How Christians spoil sex

Christian marriage.

Hot sex.

Let’s try that again:

Christian marriage; hot sex.

It doesn’t quite go together does it?

Passionate, toe-curling sex isn’t normally associated with Christianity or even spirituality in general.

At least that’s what Jonathan Acuff, a Belief Blog contributor and author of "Stuff Christians Like," argues in a recent blog. He says Christians need to do a better job of connecting God with a vibrant sex life.

That’s what we’ve been told. That God and sex don’t go together. And if you say something enough times, people start to believe it’s true…. You can’t have both in the same bottle. They’re oil and water. Cats and dogs. Spencer and Heidi. They just don’t go together.​

Acuff, who is married, says Christians shouldn’t just teach abstinence. They should also teach that while sex before marriage is bad, “sex when you’re married is awesome.”

He says Christians damage sex in four ways:

They teach guilt, not abstinence.

They have very few ways to discuss it.

They write 10 books about lust for every one book about the gift of sex.

They've "made the crayon box pretty small" (they're afraid of being creative during sex).

Acuff says it's time Christian couples realize passionate sex is God's idea.

We’ve bought the lie that the world gets to have wild, crazy sex and Christians, holy folks like us, have to have black-and-white, two-dimensional sex. But what if that’s wrong? What if the God who overflows us with love and hope and mercy wants that part of our lives to be as big and as colorful as two married people could possibly imagine?​

 

[AmberMoore]

A girlfriend read the Song of Solomon to me a few years ago, I freaked out a little bit at first when she brought the bible into the bedroom with us but I have to admit that it was kind of hot. All the allusions to oral sex, it was by far the sexiest thing I've ever heard being read out of the bible.

This might have been amplified by the fact that her hand was between my legs at the time. But I still have fond memories of that very poetic passage. If Christians are having bad sex then it's kind of their own fault.

 

[TxRad]

What about all those women yelling, "Oh God!" in all the stories on this site. Some of them must be Christians just by the law of averages.

 

[Lady_June]

Flamebait of the day.

He's got a point though. Although it's not Christians per se, as it is some Christian, top fed philosophies and politics.

I mean, here on Lit we have plenty of perverts with their own relationship to the god of their choice. And others too, I'm sure, who have been brought up with the notion of sex=sin and a foreboding 'don't have too much fun with it' kind of message.

It was cetainly all around even here in my secular upbringing. Not that sex in general was bad. But that any kind other than politically correct, sanitized, quiet vanilla intercourse between a loving monogamous couple, was something that only sickos, degenerates and probably pedophiles did.

Reality came as a bit of a surprise.

---------------------

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/03/how-christians-spoil-sex/?iref=obnetwork

TRENDING: How Christians spoil sex

Christian marriage.

Hot sex.

Let’s try that again:

Christian marriage; hot sex.

It doesn’t quite go together does it?

Passionate, toe-curling sex isn’t normally associated with Christianity or even spirituality in general.

At least that’s what Jonathan Acuff, a Belief Blog contributor and author of "Stuff Christians Like," argues in a recent blog. He says Christians need to do a better job of connecting God with a vibrant sex life.

That’s what we’ve been told. That God and sex don’t go together. And if you say something enough times, people start to believe it’s true…. You can’t have both in the same bottle. They’re oil and water. Cats and dogs. Spencer and Heidi. They just don’t go together.​

Acuff, who is married, says Christians shouldn’t just teach abstinence. They should also teach that while sex before marriage is bad, “sex when you’re married is awesome.”

He says Christians damage sex in four ways:

They teach guilt, not abstinence.

They have very few ways to discuss it.

They write 10 books about lust for every one book about the gift of sex.

They've "made the crayon box pretty small" (they're afraid of being creative during sex).

Acuff says it's time Christian couples realize passionate sex is God's idea.

We’ve bought the lie that the world gets to have wild, crazy sex and Christians, holy folks like us, have to have black-and-white, two-dimensional sex. But what if that’s wrong? What if the God who overflows us with love and hope and mercy wants that part of our lives to be as big and as colorful as two married people could possibly imagine?​

Old news. Religion spoiled sex. Or better to say (major) organized religions.

 

[sr71plt]

You'all should have been at the last wedding I went to. They prayed for babies every third breath and at one point the bride had to go over to the side with a rose and kneel and pray to the statue of Mary to give her children. I'm pretty sure Catholics know how the children get there for everyone but Mary.

 

[Handley_Page]

There's a site somewhere for sex-mad Christians; I saw it a while ago.
Nothing wrong with being both, is there?

 

[Tx Tall Tales]

There's a site somewhere for sex-mad Christians; I saw it a while ago.
Nothing wrong with being both, is there?

Certainly not in my book! Some of the most prim-and-proper church going ladies are wildcats in private.

 

[litfan10]

Certainly not in my book! Some of the most prim-and-proper church going ladies are wildcats in private.

In my other life, I am a good old Catholic boy - Eucharistic Minister/Lector and everything -and I have no problem living that ethos while also being a smut writer. It is all a matter of interpretations. God is love - period. Sex is not necessarily a part of the whole good and bad actions. Deliberately harming a fellow human is wrong; bringing honest pleasure and joy respectfully is good in my book.

 

[TxRad]

Certainly not in my book! Some of the most prim-and-proper church going ladies are wildcats in private.

Let us not forget preachers daughters. Some of the wildest women i ever met in my long and sorted life.

 

[Seduc1ove]

Sex being good or bad is almost always situational and cannot be generalized. I thought the political threads were bad. Now it's religion.

 

[TxRad]

Sex being good or bad is almost always situational and cannot be generalized. I thought the political threads were bad. Now it's religion.

Politics and religion, two things that should never be discussed in polite company.

 

[EmeraldKitten]

A girlfriend read the Song of Solomon to me a few years ago...

That's what I just thought about.
I've recently started going to church.. I wasn't brought up religious in any way shape or form.
(Currently I write smut and live in sin, but who is counting. )

Anyway, I've gone through and sorta kinda started reading the bible..
I got to that chapter, and I was almost.. embarrassed.
I felt uncomfortable. It was like I was reading biblical porn.

If that isn't saying sex is okay, then I don't know what does, lol.
(Of course, I'm sure it means after marriage.. blah. blah. blah. )

Just remember kids:
It's not pre-marital sex if you don't plan on getting married.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Talk about religion and sex, and someone will say "Song of Solomon."

It never fails.

I want to know why so many Christians can completely disregard the one sexy (and fairly long) passage in the bible, and its implications, yet harp on and on and on about leveticus whatsit's single sentence prohibiting gay sex?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Talk about religion and sex, and someone will say "Song of Solomon."

It never fails.

I want to know why so many Christians can completely disregard the one sexy (and fairly long) passage in the bible, and its implications, yet harp on and on and on about leveticus whatsit's single sentence prohibiting gay sex?

Because some people are never happy unless they have something to disapprove of. Lore has it that the Song was put into the final edition of the Hebrew bible on the insistence of one particularly eloquent rabbi who insisted that the Bible had to cover all aspects of human existence and that sex was far to important a part to leave the Song out. Today the Disapprovers keep telling themselves that the Song is an allegory . . .

 

[EmeraldKitten]

I'd just like to know what's with all the submit to your man crap.
He best be feeding me grapes and fanning my ass with a branch off a palm tree, that's all I'm sayin.

 

[TE999]

With all that 'begatting' going on in the Bible somebody must have been enjoying it.

Then there's the old joke about how Baptist's never have sex because it might lead to dancing.

 

[3113]

I'm pretty sure Catholics know how the children get there for everyone but Mary.

Well, yes, but if both are fertile enough they only need do it once every nine months to produce children. That's hardly enjoying sex.

Let us not forget preachers daughters. Some of the wildest women i ever met in my long and sorted life.

Which, I think indicates that there might be something to making sex (enjoying sex at least) forbidden to actually make it more enjoyable. A guilty pleasure might be more alluring and indulgent than an innocent pleasure.

With all that 'begatting' going on in the Bible somebody must have been enjoying it.

Meh. Given all those wives and concubines...probably the men.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Because some people are never happy unless they have something to disapprove of. Lore has it that the Song was put into the final edition of the Hebrew bible on the insistence of one particularly eloquent rabbi who insisted that the Bible had to cover all aspects of human existence and that sex was far to important a part to leave the Song out. Today the Disapprovers keep telling themselves that the Song is an allegory . . .

How do they square that lore with the "God's Word" thing?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Meh. Given all those wives and concubines...probably the men.

heh heh says the dyke.

 

[3113]

heh heh says the dyke.

Hmmm. Stella's next story....

 

[Mr_price]

At 14 years old my youth pastor gave a talk to the boys. It was the usually abstinence speech my parents started preaching when I was 12. Then he wanted to address masturbation, oh joy.

No hold on for this.
“Masturbation is natural and normal and nothing you should be ashamed of”
“However impure thoughts are a sin so if you masturbate to impure thoughts you are sinning”
Think of how that made me feel, I was sinning two to three times a day.
Luckily even at that age I knew it was all bullshit.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Hmmm. Stella's next story....

I wrote that one!

See, these two pirates abduct a girl from the seraglio, thinking they'll have a virgin to auction off. But the girl is no virgin of any sort. She's a lesbian. And she knows bed tricks more than they do.

It was a fixit response to someone else's story.

Why do people-- women as well as men-- think women can't discover sex without men around?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

How do they square that lore with the "God's Word" thing?

Uh, that's Jewish lore. Even ultra-Orthodox rabbis are bang alongside enjoyment of sex, so long as it's in marriage. The theologically challenged claim the Song is an allegory of the relationship between Christ and the church. Twaddle! It was written in the fourth Century B.C. or before that.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

"Now, there's some say I'm foolish,
And more say I'm wise;
Being fun to the women
I think is my prize
For the son of King David
Had ten hundred wives
And his wisdom was highly regarded."

(from The Limerick Rake, an Irish folksong)

And don't forget Genesis...where god creates people twice. The first is the two mounds of clay tale, where he breathes life into them. Obviously a mistake ( ), since they're equals. That first woman, Lilith, had an idea that got her thrown out of the Garden all by herself, and the Rebbis kept the details out of the bible so as not to inspire anyone to try what she had in mind. The story is still current in the Mideast and in Cabbalistic Judaism...where we find that Lilith proposed the unthinkable - that she and Adam make love with her on top!

 

[Dragonlipz]

In reply to the original post:

You must never have known some true christian women......The hottest, nastiest, sweatiest, wrapped-up-like-snakes sex I ever had was with devout 'christian' women......God gave us pheromones and hormones for a good reason......