Sittin’ on the dock of the bay,

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

There comes a moment in a failing presidency where the incumbent, through some single gesture, action, or statement, crosses a certain line from beyond which there is no return. Through his own will and behavior he so underlines his failings, so frames his negative image, that no further action can ever erase it. Fate, accident, and circumstance have nothing to do with it. It is the president himself who puts the period at the end of his own sentence.

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With Obama, we have an abundance of riches: the multiple vacations, the legal harassment of the state of Arizona on behalf of illegals, the clownish response to the Gulf oil blowout. But when historians come to select the moment when Obama went over the edge of the world, I think they'll find the great Iftar mosque speech of August 13, 2010 hard to beat.

During a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan the president found it appropriate to come out in favor of religious freedom. Not in support of Christians being attacked by janjaweed gunmen, or Bahais tormented by Iranian mullahs, or Jews being stalked by assassins, or even American citizens being told that they cannot pray in public, but in favor of a shadowy foreign foundation with suspicious financing and disturbing Jihadi connections that wishes to build some kind of victory monument congruent to the site of the 9/11 massacre.

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With Obama, suspicions have involved his status as an American. The foreign parentage, the registration in an Indonesian school noting him as a Muslim, the uproar over the birth certificate, aroused misgivings that, despite media scorn heaped upon those noting them, he has never quite been able to put to rest. As of last weekend, his opportunities to do so are ended. Impressions trump arguments, and for most of the country, Obama will, from here on in, be a strange and untrustworthy figure -- a man who does not understand what Ground Zero means to America, who utilizes American law and custom to support foreign interests, who speaks to strangers more clearly than to his own.

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The past two years are the best Obama will ever see. The real crises of his presidency are still to come, and are easily visible as they move toward us -- Iran, terrorism, the economy, the collapse of the national health care system hastened by his own policies. He will meet them under a cloud of his own making, attempting to overcome them as a president who takes endless vacations, who will not defend his country's borders, who sat out the Gulf oil crisis, who overlooks the sacrifices of his own countrymen in favor of dubious foreign figures.

JR Dunn
The American Thinker

51% Disapprove...
You just don't come back from that...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Where's the pinhead?

A number of Al Azhar ulema expressed their opposition to building a mosque near [where] the events of September 11 [occurred], convinced that it is “a conspiracy to confirm a clear connection between the strikes of September [11] and Islam.” Dr. ‘Abd al-Mu‘ti Bayumi, a member of the Islamic Research Academy [of Al Azhar] told Al Masry Al Youm that he rejects the building of any mosque in this area [Ground Zero], because the “devious mentality” desires to connect these events [of 9/11] with Islam, though he maintains that Islam is innocent of this accusation. Instead, it is a “Zionist conspiracy,” which many are making use of to harm the religion. Likewise, Dr. Amna Nazir, professor of doctrine and philosophy at Al Azhar, expressed her rejection that a mosque be built near the World Trade Center, saying: “Building a mosque on this rubble indicates bad intention — even if we wished to shut our eyes, close our minds, and insist on good will. I hope it is a sincere step, and not a new conspiracy against Islam and Muslims.”

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Much of this, I believe, has to do with the differing mentalities of Western, as opposed to Middle Eastern, or “indigenous,” Muslims. The latter, who have had little experience of the West, simply cannot believe that Muslims would be so foolhardy as to pursue such an obvious affront to their host nation; put differently, they cannot believe a non-Muslim nation would tolerate such effrontery. Used to seeing, and treating, “infidels” as second-class citizens, it is only natural that the indigenous Muslim mentality expects reciprocity when on infidel soil.

Westernized Muslims, on the other hand, have learned that they can get away with almost anything — so long as they slap the words “tolerance,” “pluralism,” “dialogue,” or “bridge-building” to their endeavors, as the 9/11 mosque supporters do regularly. In short, a correlation exists between how well or how little a Muslim knows the West, and how aggressive or passive their Islamism becomes.

Moreover, religious buildings are symbols of supremacy to many Muslims; hence the reason mosques are ubiquitous to the Muslim world whereas churches are all but — and in some Muslim nations totally — banned. It is precisely because of this ingrained view towards the significance of religious buildings that Al Azhar Muslims are convinced that no sane Muslim would adamantly pursue the construction of a 9/11 mosque, which must instead be “a new conspiracy against Islam and Muslims.”

Incidentally, how does one interpret President Barrack Hussein Obama’s recent support for the 9/11 mosque? He certainly spent enough time growing up in the Muslim world to have a better understanding of the Muslim mindset — including its take on religious buildings as symbols of supremacy — than the average American. Far from approving it, then, he of all presidents should appreciate the triumphalist overtones a mega-mosque so near to Ground Zero conveys to Islamists.

Either way, especially now that Obama has gotten himself into the mix — even if he did try to backpedal — the potential for the 9/11 mosque project to backfire on Islam continues to grow. At a time when nearly 70 percent of Americans already oppose the mosque plan, continued media attention and 9/11 rallies may well help realize Al Azhar’s worst fears: that the 9/11 mosque will serve as a permanent and “clear connection between the strikes of September [11] and Islam.” (That Muslims will be seen celebrating this coming September 11 as part of Eid al-Fatr probably won’t help either.)

In closing, should the mosque be built, it will be an Islamist triumph. However, at the rate things are going — the 9/11 mosque is set to be a hot topic for upcoming elections — time may well reveal that the victory of erecting a mega-mosque near Ground Zero was as much symbolic as it was pyrrhic, not just for Islamists, but their political supporters as well.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/top-muslims-condemn-ground-zero-mosque-as-a-‘zionist-conspiracy’/

Raymond Ibrahim is the associate director of the Middle East Forum, the author of The Al Qaeda Reader, and a guest lecturer at the National Defense Intelligence College.




But yet, the Dubai Port issue was a clear and imminent danger to our country, or was it just more Bush Hate?

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

All I hear anymore is *crickets*




All the great Lefty Bush haters have stopped posting other than the occasional drive-by so they don't have to defend their party in power...

Suddenly, they have no time for Lit and the rw Bigots who simply won't go where they're wanted...

All those idiots who were so fun to make fun of when Bush was in office.

Back then, we were "funny." Now we're on ignore.

Say hi to DCL for me kids.

All my love, all my kissin'
You don't know what you've been missin', oh boy,

It's palin to see,

OH! BOY!

(((LIPSTICK)))

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Good Moanin' BIGOTS!!!!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

zip, you might want to check out post #61...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Moral Myopia at Ground Zero
Supporters of the mosque fail to see its true significance.

It’s hard to be an Obama sycophant these days. Your hero delivers a Ramadan speech roundly supporting the building of a mosque and Islamic center at Ground Zero in New York. Your heart swells and you’re moved to declare this President Obama’s finest hour, his act of greatest courage.

Alas, the next day, at a remove of 800 miles, Obama explains that he was only talking about the legality of the thing and not the wisdom — upon which he does not make, and will not make, any judgment.

You’re left looking like a fool because now Obama has said exactly nothing: No one disputes the right to build; the whole debate is about the propriety, the decency of doing so.

It takes no courage whatsoever to bask in the applause of a Muslim audience as you promise to stand stoutly for their right to build a mosque, giving the unmistakable impression that you endorse the idea. What does take courage is to then respectfully ask that audience to reflect upon the wisdom of the project and consider whether the imam’s alleged goal of interfaith understanding might not be better achieved by accepting the New York governor’s offer to help find another site.

Where the president flagged, however, the liberal intelligentsia stepped in with gusto, penning dozens of pro-mosque articles characterized by a frenzied unanimity, little resort to argument, and a singular difficulty dealing with analogies.

 

[zipman]

zip, you might want to check out post #61...

LMAO!!! Yes, you got me. I see a difference between homeland security that has the responsibility for checking out cargo coming from foreign ports and a house of worship.

Dude, you get dumber by the day.

 

[zipman]

Where's the pinhead?


http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/top-muslims-condemn-ground-zero-mosque-as-a-‘zionist-conspiracy’/

Raymond Ibrahim is the associate director of the Middle East Forum, the author of The Al Qaeda Reader, and a guest lecturer at the National Defense Intelligence College.




But yet, the Dubai Port issue was a clear and imminent danger to our country, or was it just more Bush Hate?

So your proof there is a conspiracy is the opinion of one person? Well then, I guess that proves it.

And for the record, I would have the same stance on the port issue today with Obama as president. In fact, I strongly disapprove of the lack of progress that the current administration has made with regard to improving port security. Of course, that's what happens when you have principles that are independent of politics. You should try it sometime.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I'm sorry zip.




I was under the impression that the radicals were using the Mosques as their recruiting, promoting, and staging bases.

I'm actually quite surprised to learn that the danger emanates from the docks...

My bad. I've been blaming radical Imams instead of Union Foremen.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Saint Peter]

Good morning.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

There's more than one source zip, but I don't expect you to know that since your "truthful" press is strangely incurious as to how a guy with $18K in the bank intends on raising $100 mil in cold, hard cash (from where? Saudi Arabia? Iran?)...





You got a link to your latest concern on port security?

We'll wait...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Mah BIGOTS!!!




Did you watch any of that Patriots game? Brady looked sharp.



Brett's back...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Why the hell would we have to secure the ports any better with all the borders wide open?




Arizona, or Oklahoma, WHAT DOES IT MATTER???

 

[Saint Peter]

I am here for balance.


I will be posting drunk Bush daughter pics as soon as I return from my morning call to prayers.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Why the hell would we have to secure the ports any better with all the borders wide open?

No idea.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/byroninexile/nc/nc11.jpg

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I have a ten-foot pole that is perfect for a balancing act...




Sorry about the little red rings I left on you.




It was a dare...

 

[zipman]

I'm sorry zip.




I was under the impression that the radicals were using the Mosques as their recruiting, promoting, and staging bases.

I'm actually quite surprised to learn that the danger emanates from the docks...

My bad. I've been blaming radical Imams instead of Union Foremen.

There's always a danger of emanating from ports, from everything from drug smuggling to a dirty bomb. But you know that.

Since you think Mosques are a danger, I guess you would have to support closing all of them, wouldn't you? Or is it just this one?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

No idea.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/byroninexile/nc/nc11.jpg

Did it float in from Cuba?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

There's always a danger of emanating from ports, from everything from drug smuggling to a dirty bomb. But you know that.

Since you think Mosques are a danger, I guess you would have to support closing all of them, wouldn't you? Or is it just this one?

Straight to the black and white.


How very nuanced of you...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

But we'll start demanding keeping a better eye on the Union workers at the dock as not to profile Islam...




You know, like they do in Arizona...

 

[Saint Peter]

Straight to the black and white.


How very nuanced of you...

The question has been brought up before.

Do you support freedom of religion or not?

 

[zipman]

Did it float in from Cuba?

You might have a point if I wasn't in favor of monitoring and protecting cargo from crossing our land borders. Of course, since I am strongly in favor of it, I guess you don't. Again, one principle regardless of politics. I can see you are having a lot of trouble grasping the concept.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Did it float in from Cuba?

Mexico —> Texas.

If you know COBOL, you know about math, right?