en garde! a challenging challenge for challenged challengers

[nerk]

1. Insert tongue in cheek and read Collin's note and instructions on the paradelle form: The paradelle is (in Collins' own note) "one of the more demanding French fixed forms, first appearing in the langue d'oc love poetry of the eleventh century.

a. It is a poem of four six-line stanzas...
b. ...in which the first and second lines, as well as the third and fourth lines of the first three stanzas, must be identical.
c. The fifth and sixth lines, which traditionally resolve these stanzas, must use all the words from the preceding lines and only those words.
d. Similarly, the final stanza must use every word from all the preceding stanzas and only those words."

2. Choose a photograph as insipiration for your poem.
3. Follow Collin's instructions & write an original paradelle.

(a portmanteau of parody and villanelle)

 

[butters]

i intend to have a shot at this, time permitting, though a pig's ear might stand a better chance

 

[UnderYourSpell]

One would think I would have learned to keep my big gob shut by now, wouldn't you? Will see how my other irons in the fire pan out before even thinking about this

 

[butters]

One would think I would have learned to keep my big gob shut by now, wouldn't you? Will see how my other irons in the fire pan out before even thinking about this

hehehe
you know you won't be able to resist, annie. you know it, i know it, we all know you rise to the challenge

i don''t even know where to begin. subject matter's what's throwing me off - i have to pick something and .. *pulls twattish face* i've not got a monkey's at the moment

 

[butters]

oops - choose a photo

 

[butters]

nerk, you show us yours and some of us will show you ours i want to see an illustration before diving in.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

hehehe
you know you won't be able to resist, annie. you know it, i know it, we all know you rise to the challenge

i don''t even know where to begin. subject matter's what's throwing me off - i have to pick something and .. *pulls twattish face* i've not got a monkey's at the moment

at the moment I have other fish to fry ....... the first stanza of which was written in my head whilst in the shower!

 

[nerk]

nerk, you show us yours and some of us will show you ours i want to see an illustration before diving in.

illustrations?????
crap.

I knew I should have read that before I posted it.

 

[nerk]

nerk, you show us yours and some of us will show you ours i want to see an illustration before diving in.

And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry ... boy .. she looks so peaceful, doesn't she?




http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wjlcSWC_BpQ/TGiCmjOEotI/AAAAAAAAABY/auBFYwV-qx4/S380/02molly.jpg

 

[butters]

And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry ... boy .. she looks so peaceful, doesn't she?


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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wjlcSWC_BpQ/TGiCmjOEotI/AAAAAAAAABY/auBFYwV-qx4/S380/02molly.jpg

so much for 'let slip the dogs of war'
she looks like she's plotting something to me, lol

 

[nerk]

so much for 'let slip the dogs of war'
she looks like she's plotting something to me, lol

"I bide my time, knowing that little kid will drop his hot dog"

 

[greenmountaineer]

What the hell, I'm game.

What the Hell Was That?

It just was a nightmare of Jabberwock;
It just was a nightmare of Jabberwock,
Whatever the hell that is;
Whatever the hell that is.
That Jabberwock is just a hell
Of a nightmare, whatever it was.

Perhaps I am that mad, you know;
Perhaps I am that mad, you know,
Who knows a devil Slithy;
Who knows a devil Slithy
Who knows perhaps that I am mad.
I am, you know! You slithy devil!

In my nightmare I hear nothing;
In my nightmare I hear nothing
But Brillig and Tove from Lewis Carroll,
But Brillig and Tove from Lewis Carroll
And hear my mare in night but I carol
Nothing from Brillig, Tove, and Lewis

Who knows whatever the Jabberwock is.
Perhaps in my nightmare I am mad that
Brillig knows, Tove who knows nothing
But from Lewis Carroll, you know,
And that devil of a Slithy knows
Just whatever the hell it was!

 

[UnderYourSpell]

What the Hell Was That?

I just had a dream of Jabberwock.
I just had a dream of Jabberwock,
Whatever the hell that is;
Whatever the hell that is.
Jabberwock is a just dream
Of just whatever that is.

Perhaps the Mad Hatter I am.
Perhaps the Mad Hatter I am
Who knows a mad devil called Slithy;
Who knows a mad devil called Slithy.
Perhaps I am mad (I am);
Perhaps a devil, who knows?

In my nightmare I hear nothing.
In my nightmare I hear nothing,
But Brillig and Tove from Lewis Carroll;
But Brillig and Tove from Lewis Carroll.
Hear! Hear! Hear! Hear! Nothing
But Lewis Carroll I hear

Who knows whatever the Jabberwock is.
But in my dream I am mad as hell
That Brillig knows whatever it is
And Tove who knows nothing knows,
And I know that devil Slithy knows
Just whatever the hell it is.

wow!! I am so not going to compete with that

 

[butters]

tis brillig, but leaves me even more confused!

the last 2 lines of each verse - they don't have to contain ALL of the words of the other 2 lines, just the words used have to be from them? or is gm freebasing here and getting all artsy with it?

 

[UnderYourSpell]

confused.com

 

[greenmountaineer]

tis brillig, but leaves me even more confused!

the last 2 lines of each verse - they don't have to contain ALL of the words of the other 2 lines, just the words used have to be from them? or is gm freebasing here and getting all artsy with it?

You're right. The reason why I didn't like Collins' original was because of the nonsensical sentence structure of the last two lines of the stanzas in order to include all words. I found another example, A Paradelle for Donald Rumsfeld, which I liked better, and mistakenly thought his concluding lines were written with only selected words from the four prior lines. I re-read it and realize that all words were used.

I'll play with an edit to see if I can make it work, but I'm not sure I can. If that's the case, I'll slap my poetic wrists for taking too much liberty in form and will move on.

NERK: Let me know if you want the pseudo-paradelle deleted.

Wait! Is that a new form? I think I'll call it neo-paradelle and write another one to parody Billy Collins.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

where is EO he should be doing this?

 

[UnderYourSpell]

You're right. The reason why I didn't like Collins' original was because of the nonsensical sentence structure of the last two lines of the stanzas in order to include all words. I found another example, A Paradelle for Donald Rumsfeld, which I liked better, and mistakenly thought his concluding lines were written with only selected words from the four prior lines. I re-read it and realize that all words were used.

I'll play with an edit to see if I can make it work, but I'm not sure I can. If that's the case, I'll slap my poetic wrists for taking too much liberty in form and will move on.

NERK: Let me know if you want the pseudo-paradelle deleted.

Wait! Is that a new form? I think I'll call it neo-paradelle and write another one to parody Billy Collins.

just call it a piddle! >>>>>>>>>>>>>runs like hell

 

[butters]

You're right. The reason why I didn't like Collins' original was because of the nonsensical sentence structure of the last two lines of the stanzas in order to include all words. I found another example, A Paradelle for Donald Rumsfeld, which I liked better, and mistakenly thought his concluding lines were written with only selected words from the four prior lines. I re-read it and realize that all words were used.

I'll play with an edit to see if I can make it work, but I'm not sure I can. If that's the case, I'll slap my poetic wrists for taking too much liberty in form and will move on.

NERK: Let me know if you want the pseudo-paradelle deleted.

Wait! Is that a new form? I think I'll call it neo-paradelle and write another one to parody Billy Collins.

i prefer yours by far, it has to be admitted! don't be deleting it, let it stand in its own footprint. neo-paradelle ... lmao

 

[nerk]

BRAVO

drawing on lewis carroll for a parodic poem is so obvious it's brilliant.
scratch that, reverse it.
so brilliant it's obvious.

What the Hell Was That?

I just had a dream of Jabberwock.
I just had a dream of Jabberwock,
Whatever the hell that is;
Whatever the hell that is.
Jabberwock is just a dream
Of just whatever that is.

Perhaps the Mad Hatter I am.
Perhaps the Mad Hatter I am
Who knows a mad devil called Slithy;
Who knows a mad devil called Slithy.
Perhaps I am mad (I am);
Perhaps a devil, who knows?

In my nightmare I hear nothing.
In my nightmare I hear nothing,
But Brillig and Tove from Lewis Carroll;
But Brillig and Tove from Lewis Carroll.
Hear! Hear! Hear! Hear! Nothing
But Lewis Carroll I hear

Who knows whatever the Jabberwock is.
But in my dream I am mad as hell
That Brillig knows whatever it is
And Tove who knows nothing knows,
And I know that devil Slithy knows
Just whatever the hell it is.

 

[nerk]

NERK: Let me know if you want the pseudo-paradelle deleted.

Christ no. If you delete it, I'll sic the Red Queen on you.
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

 

[nerk]

You're right. The reason why I didn't like Collins' original was because of the nonsensical sentence structure of the last two lines of the stanzas in order to include all words. I found another example, A Paradelle for Donald Rumsfeld, which I liked better, and mistakenly thought his concluding lines were written with only selected words from the four prior lines. I re-read it and realize that all words were used.

my current "thinking" on the paradelle, if there's going to be any hope whatsoever, is that it has to be reverse engineered.

last stanza first, then extrapolate.
and a balance of parts of speech is crucial, methinks.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

For my (hopefully) new form I put up a colour coded explanation ......can you do something similar on here please and might reconsider

 

[butters]

my current "thinking" on the paradelle, if there's going to be any hope whatsoever, is that it has to be reverse engineered.

last stanza first, then extrapolate.
and a balance of parts of speech is crucial, methinks.

ah, that might help. it's been a bareknuckle fight all the way and it's winning

 

[UnderYourSpell]

like a sestina when you figure out your end words and the twiddly bit at the bottom (envoy?)