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Bankers and business are already standing pat and waiting.
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But they know how well the plan worked for Roosevelt.
Keep your hopes up.....
Keep your hopes up because that is all any of us will have if we do not return to the PRINCIPLES upon which this country was founded. We, in the United States of America, are not a democracy, we are a "constitutionally limited representative republic". We have strayed from that principle and are drifting toward democracy. Some may say that that is "noble". I however do not. Please allow me to explain.
First: Principles are primary thoughts; those thoughts that are the base of following thoughts are allowed to sprout. They are the seed that the tree of knowledge grows from. They are not subject to "what ifs". What if it were an acorn and not an apple that the tree sprouted from? It was not an acorn, a kernel of corn or or a mushroom spore; it was an apple get over it.
Second: Our Constitution says what it says, PERIOD. It has been amended, thank goodness, to correct SOME inequities, such as the voting rights of women and "non-whites". THAT, the ability to amend the Constitution, is where the "democratic principles" of our country is rooted, not in a living Constitution. The premise of a "Living Constitution" not only allows for but promotes chaos. EVERYONE that is living in this country MUST know by what standard that they are going to be held to.
Third, last but not least: Democracy is "MOB RULE". Who votes to kill everyone that doesn't think the way we should? Socrates may have a somewhat differing answer than you. A man that asked questions and proved that men that claimed that they knew what they were talking about, did not know what they were talking about. He was forced to drink hemlock because "A MAJORITY" agreed that he was "corrupting the youth of Athens". Snuffing out one of the greatest documented minds in all of history because he proved that asses are asses. Let's all cheer for DEMOCRACY!Lets see who has the most friends.The politics of pull. The most powerful country on the planet governed by a rule of High School: POPULARITY? NO WAY!
I will make no bones about it; I want CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTARIANS to win this coming November. I DO NOT want Republicans to win because of their party affiliation. I want REPUBLICANS to win because of their PRINCIPLES! I do not want them to compromise. Compromises are what has led us to where we are.
I want the following:
1) A return to the gold standard.
It's not that hard. I want the first step in giving to people what they produce; not what they consume. I want people to be held to a standard, a GOLD STANDARD. I will freely admit that I am not the greatest son of a bitch in the world but I will proudly STAND UP and be judged. I recognize my strengths AND my weaknesses. I understand how each of them can be used as a tool to glorify any success I may achieve or wreak havoc in any endeavor to undertake.
I understand that you Liberals won the last election. You dislike what the Conservatives are saying now. Please remember that when you start spouting off in December.
Keep your hopes up because that is all any of us will have if we do not return to the PRINCIPLES upon which this country was founded. We, in the United States of America, are not a democracy, we are a "constitutionally limited representative republic". We have strayed from that principle and are drifting toward democracy. Some may say that that is "noble". I however do not. Please allow me to explain.
First: Principles are primary thoughts; those thoughts that are the base of following thoughts are allowed to sprout. They are the seed that the tree of knowledge grows from. They are not subject to "what ifs". What if it were an acorn and not an apple that the tree sprouted from? It was not an acorn, a kernel of corn or or a mushroom spore; it was an apple get over it.
Second: Our Constitution says what it says, PERIOD. It has been amended, thank goodness, to correct SOME inequities, such as the voting rights of women and "non-whites". THAT, the ability to amend the Constitution, is where the "democratic principles" of our country is rooted, not in a living Constitution. The premise of a "Living Constitution" not only allows for but promotes chaos. EVERYONE that is living in this country MUST know by what standard that they are going to be held to.
Third, last but not least: Democracy is "MOB RULE". Who votes to kill everyone that doesn't think the way we should? Socrates may have a somewhat differing answer than you. A man that asked questions and proved that men that claimed that they knew what they were talking about, did not know what they were talking about. He was forced to drink hemlock because "A MAJORITY" agreed that he was "corrupting the youth of Athens". Snuffing out one of the greatest documented minds in all of history because he proved that asses are asses. Let's all cheer for DEMOCRACY!Lets see who has the most friends.The politics of pull. The most powerful country on the planet governed by a rule of High School: POPULARITY? NO WAY!
I will make no bones about it; I want CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTARIANS to win this coming November. I DO NOT want Republicans to win because of their party affiliation. I want REPUBLICANS to win because of their PRINCIPLES! I do not want them to compromise. Compromises are what has led us to where we are.
I want the following:
1) A return to the gold standard.
It's not that hard. I want the first step in giving to people what they produce; not what they consume. I want people to be held to a standard, a GOLD STANDARD. I will freely admit that I am not the greatest son of a bitch in the world but I will proudly STAND UP and be judged. I recognize my strengths AND my weaknesses. I understand how each of them can be used as a tool to glorify any success I may achieve or wreak havoc in any endeavor to undertake.
I understand that you Liberals won the last election. You dislike what the Conservatives are saying now. Please remember that when you start spouting off in December.
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history has proven that all "democracies" turn into dictatorships.
the only true democracy are small communities that take care of themselves, and everyone has a voice.and rule is based on CONSENSUS. everything else is a joke.
the only true democracy are small communities that take care of themselves, and everyone has a voice.and rule is based on CONSENSUS. everything else is a joke.
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Even Mel Gibson is feeling the economic woes:
Mel: “I don’t have any fucking money! I have to support you and everybody else! I have to sell paintings. I have to sell my box at the Lakers game!"
OctoSana: "You're the meanest person I know."
Mel: "WHAT!? Yeah, you know what mean is now. Don't you? I like to show you what mean really is, bitch, cunt, whore, gold digger."
Mel: "You used me and you are telling me and proving to me what you were and what I suspected! Fucking user! You fucking used me! I will never forgive you!"
OctoSana: "You ruined my life and you didn't give me a penny!"
Mel: You ruined my life first! I ruined your life? How did I ruin your life? I gave you shit! You gave me nothing but fucking grief! Alright? And bad publicity, you cunt! How did I ruin your life?
Mel: "Look at what you've fucking done! Look at your son! He's a fucking mess! You fucking excuse for a mother! You're a fucking bitch!"
Even Mel Gibson is feeling the economic woes:
Mel: “I don’t have any fucking money! I have to support you and everybody else! I have to sell paintings. I have to sell my box at the Lakers game!"
OctoSana: "You're the meanest person I know."
Mel: "WHAT!? Yeah, you know what mean is now. Don't you? I like to show you what mean really is, bitch, cunt, whore, gold digger."
Mel: "You used me and you are telling me and proving to me what you were and what I suspected! Fucking user! You fucking used me! I will never forgive you!"
OctoSana: "You ruined my life and you didn't give me a penny!"
Mel: You ruined my life first! I ruined your life? How did I ruin your life? I gave you shit! You gave me nothing but fucking grief! Alright? And bad publicity, you cunt! How did I ruin your life?
Mel: "Look at what you've fucking done! Look at your son! He's a fucking mess! You fucking excuse for a mother! You're a fucking bitch!"
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Well, except for these ones. (Gotta be careful when when you learn history from watching Star Wars movies.)
Albania: Emerging democracy
Andorra: Parliamentary democracy
Angola: Multiparty republic
Argentina: Multiparty republic
Armenia: Multiparty republic
Aruba: Parliamentary democracy
Australia: Democratic Constitutional Monarchy
Austria: Federal republic
The Bahamas: Parliamentary Representative Democratic Monarchy
Bangladesh: Parliamentary democracy
Barbados: Parliamentary democracy
Belgium: Parliamentary democracy under a constitunional monarchy
Belize: Parliamentary democracy
Benin: Multiparty republic
Bermuda: Parliamentary British overseas territory with internal self-government
Bolivia: Multiparty republic
Bosnia and Herzegovina: Emerging republic
Botswana: Parliamentary republic
Brazil: Federative Republic
Bulgaria: Parliamentary democracy
Burkina Faso: Parliamentary democracy
Canada: Parliamentary democracy
Cambodia: Multiparty democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Cape Verde: Multiparty republic
Chile: Multiparty republic
Colombia: Multiparty republic
Comoros: Multiparty republic
Cook Islands: Self-governing parliamentary democracy
Costa Rica: Democratic republic
Croatia: Presidantial/Parliamental democracy
Cyprus: Multiparty republic
The Czech Republic: Parliamentary democracy
Denmark: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Dominica: Parliamentary democracy
Dominican: Republic Democracy
Ecuador: Multiparty republic
El Salvador: Multiparty republic
Estonia: Parliamentary republic
Fiji: Multiparty republic
Finland: Multiparty republic
Gabon: Multiparty republic
France: Multiparty republic
Georgia: Multiparty republic
Germany: Multiparty republic
Ghana: Constitutional democracy
Greece: Parliamentary republic
Greenland: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Grenada: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Guatemala: Democratic republic
Guinea-Bissau: Multiparty republic
Guyana: Multiparty republic
Honduras: Democratic republic
Hungary: Parliamentary democracy
Iceland: Democracy
India: Federal Republic
Indonesia: Multiparty Republic
Ireland: Multiparty republic
Israel: Parliamentary democracy
Isle of Man: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Italy: Multiparty republic
Jamaica: Parliamentary democracy
Japan: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Kiribati: Multiparty republic
Kyrgyzstan: Multiparty republic
Latvia: Democracy
Lebanon: Multiparty republic
Lesotho: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Liberia: Emerging democracy
Liechtenstein: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Luxembourg: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Lithuania: Parliamentary democracy
Macedonia: Parliamentary democracy
Malawi: Parliamentary democracy
Malta: Multiparty republic
Marshall Islands: Constitutional government
Mauritius: Parliamentary democracy
Mexico: Federal Republic
Micronesia: Constitutional government
Moldova: Multiparty republic
Monaco: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Mongolia: Mixed parliamentary/presidential
Mozambique: Multiparty republic
Namibia: Multiparty republic
Nauru: Multiparty republic
New Zealand: Democratic Constitutional Monarchy
The Netherlands: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
The Netherlands Antilles: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Nicaragua: Multiparty republic
Niue: Self governing parliamentary democracy
Northern Mariana Islands: Self-governing with locally elected governor, lieutenant governor and legislature
Norway: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Palau: Constitutional government in free association with the U.S.A.
Panama: Democracy
Papua: New Guinea Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Paraguay: Multiparty republic
Peru: Multiparty republic
The Philippines: Multiparty republic
Poland: Multiparty republic
Portugal: Democracy
Puerto Rico: Democracy
Romania: Multiparty republic
Saint Kitts and Nevis: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Saint Lucia: Parliamentary democracy
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: Parliamentary democracy
Samoa: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
San Marino: Multiparty republic
São Tomé and Príncipe: Multiparty republic
Senegal: Multiparty republic
Serbia and Montenegro: Multiparty republic
Seychelles: Multiparty republic
Sierra Leone: Constitutional democracy
Slovakia: Parliamentary democracy
Slovenia: Parliamentary republic
Solomon Islands: Parliamentary democracy
South Africa: Multiparty republic
South Korea: Multiparty republic
Spain: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Sri Lanka: Multiparty republic
Suriname: Democracy
Sweden: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Switzerland: Multiparty republic/Direct democracy
Republic of China (Taiwan): Democracy
Thailand: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Trinidad and Tobago: Parliamentary democracy
Tuvalu: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
Turkey: Parliamentary democracy
Ukraine: Multiparty republic
United Kingdom: Parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy
United States of America: Federal republic
Uruguay: Multiparty republic
Vanuatu: Parliamentary republic
Venezuela: Multiparty republic
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just give em time. if i lived in the uk i'd feel like i was in a dictatorship.
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LT will accuse Toyota of outsourcing.
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(snark, snark, chuckle)
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Le Jackass may finally be able to buy a REAL Rav-4EV, rather than the imaginary one he's driving now, thanks to the recent announcement of collaboration between Tesla Motors and Toyota to revive the model and update it using Tesla battery and drive technology.
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Not quite, a $50 million influx of cash from Toyota.
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Henry Ford? LMAO.. Good lord, you still live in the 1900's? The Ford Motor Company was started in 1903 with less than $30,000 capital if I remember correctly. Adjusted for inflation that's still less than $1 million. Ford would never have started up today with that little cash.
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You realize that you just shot your other post through the heart with that statement right?
"Henry Ford? LMAO.. Good lord, you still live in the 1900's? The Ford Motor Company was started in 1903 with less than $30,000 capital if I remember correctly. Adjusted for inflation that's still less than $1 million. Ford would never have started up today with that little cash."
Wrong - Ford had a better idea!
Just like Wozniack & Jobs, Gates, the Google guys...to new just a few more modern examples...
Wrong - Ford had a better idea!
Just like Wozniack & Jobs, Gates, the Google guys...to new just a few more modern examples...
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As we create 11 new agencies and the overhead that goes along with them in funding and regulation, keep in mind that Obama, like Clinton before, is promising an end to the business cycle.
This is why we are so doom-and-gloom concerning the economy under the control of people who admire Marxism...
How can you measure the value of knowing that company books are sounder than they were before? Of no more overnight bankruptcies with the employees and retirees left holding the bag? No more disruption to entire sectors of the economy?
Michael Oxley 2002
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It will take the next economic crisis, as certainly it will come, to determine whether or not the provisions of this bill will actually provide this generation or the next generation of regulators with the tools necessary to minimize the effects of that crisis.
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You loot the private sector, strip every dollar of 40¢ for overhead, and then give the other 60¢ to your political base in order to revitalize the looted.
What's not to like about that plan?
A_J, the Stupid
This is why we are so doom-and-gloom concerning the economy under the control of people who admire Marxism...
How can you measure the value of knowing that company books are sounder than they were before? Of no more overnight bankruptcies with the employees and retirees left holding the bag? No more disruption to entire sectors of the economy?
Michael Oxley 2002
Co-Author of Sarbanes-Oxley Law
It will take the next economic crisis, as certainly it will come, to determine whether or not the provisions of this bill will actually provide this generation or the next generation of regulators with the tools necessary to minimize the effects of that crisis.
Chris Dodd
Co-Author Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act
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You loot the private sector, strip every dollar of 40¢ for overhead, and then give the other 60¢ to your political base in order to revitalize the looted.
What's not to like about that plan?
A_J, the Stupid
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Gee U_D, you're so busy in every thread but this one...
Could it be the Financial Sector's reaction to the Bill that Saves them from themselves? -261?
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How can you measure the value of knowing that company books are sounder than they were before? Of no more overnight bankruptcies with the employees and retirees left holding the bag? No more disruption to entire sectors of the economy?
Michael Oxley 2002
Co-Author of Sarbanes-Oxley Law
It will take the next economic crisis, as certainly it will come, to determine whether or not the provisions of this bill will actually provide this generation or the next generation of regulators with the tools necessary to minimize the effects of that crisis.
Chris Dodd
Co-Author Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act
Prosperity and economic growth become the domain of government. The philosophical aim is to eliminate recessions by eliminating robust growth -- the underlying philosophy being that if there is no boom, there will be no bust. This system usually appeals to populations coming out of severe economic depressions and upheaval, as in pre-Nazi Germany during the period of the 1930s.
The problem with the system is obvious: property-owning democracy must take a back seat to the interests of the state. And, by blurring the distinction between the private sector and the public sector, individual liberty can often be conditioned on complicity with state aims, as manifested in the private sector sphere. Why else would German companies like Degesch be willing to supply the infamous Zyclon-B for use in the extermination of their fellow men if not conditioned upon the continued viability of the company and all employees concerned? Money talks, and when the state controls the powers of production directly or indirectly, it controls the livelihood of millions. Human beings are capable of such immense evil in exchange for clothing and a full pantry.
John Griffing
American Jeopardy: What is Fascism?
Could it be the Financial Sector's reaction to the Bill that Saves them from themselves? -261?
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How can you measure the value of knowing that company books are sounder than they were before? Of no more overnight bankruptcies with the employees and retirees left holding the bag? No more disruption to entire sectors of the economy?
Michael Oxley 2002
Co-Author of Sarbanes-Oxley Law
It will take the next economic crisis, as certainly it will come, to determine whether or not the provisions of this bill will actually provide this generation or the next generation of regulators with the tools necessary to minimize the effects of that crisis.
Chris Dodd
Co-Author Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act
Prosperity and economic growth become the domain of government. The philosophical aim is to eliminate recessions by eliminating robust growth -- the underlying philosophy being that if there is no boom, there will be no bust. This system usually appeals to populations coming out of severe economic depressions and upheaval, as in pre-Nazi Germany during the period of the 1930s.
The problem with the system is obvious: property-owning democracy must take a back seat to the interests of the state. And, by blurring the distinction between the private sector and the public sector, individual liberty can often be conditioned on complicity with state aims, as manifested in the private sector sphere. Why else would German companies like Degesch be willing to supply the infamous Zyclon-B for use in the extermination of their fellow men if not conditioned upon the continued viability of the company and all employees concerned? Money talks, and when the state controls the powers of production directly or indirectly, it controls the livelihood of millions. Human beings are capable of such immense evil in exchange for clothing and a full pantry.
John Griffing
American Jeopardy: What is Fascism?
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