Politics and the US Economy

You know that the US press has been almost completely silent on this point. I wonder why they haven't pointed out the continuing job loss statistics. Do they feel that the bad news would jepordize their beloved democratic candidates in the next election. What happened to "fair and balanced"?

It's starting to feel like 1932

With the US trapped in depression, this really is starting to feel like 1932
The US workforce shrank by 652,000 in June, one of the sharpest contractions ever. The rate of hourly earnings fell 0.1pc. Wages are flirting with deflation.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Published: 04 Jul 2010

People queue for a job fair in New York. The share of the US working-age population with jobs in June fell from 58.7pc to 58.5pc. The ratio was 63pc three years ago. Photo: EPA "The economy is still in the gravitational pull of the Great Recession," said Robert Reich, former US labour secretary. "All the booster rockets for getting us beyond it are failing."

"Home sales are down. Retail sales are down. Factory orders in May suffered their biggest tumble since March of last year. So what are we doing about it? Less than nothing," he said.

California is tightening faster than Greece. State workers have seen a 14pc fall in earnings this year due to forced furloughs. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is cutting pay for 200,000 state workers to the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour to cover his $19bn (£15bn) deficit.

Can Illinois be far behind? The state has a deficit of $12bn and is $5bn in arrears to schools, nursing homes, child care centres, and prisons. "It is getting worse every single day," said state comptroller Daniel Hynes. "We are not paying bills for absolutely essential services. That is obscene."

Roughly a million Americans have dropped out of the jobs market altogether over the past two months. That is the only reason why the headline unemployment rate is not exploding to a post-war high.

Let us be honest. The US is still trapped in depression a full 18 months into zero interest rates, quantitative easing (QE), and fiscal stimulus that has pushed the budget deficit above 10pc of GDP.

The share of the US working-age population with jobs in June actually fell from 58.7pc to 58.5pc. This is the real stress indicator. The ratio was 63pc three years ago. Eight million jobs have been lost.

The average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks. Nothing like this has been seen before in the post-war era. Jeff Weninger, of Harris Private Bank, said this compares with a peak of 21.2 weeks in the Volcker recession of the early 1980s.

"Legions of individuals have been left with stale skills, and little prospect of finding meaningful work, and benefits that are being exhausted. By our math the crop of people who are unemployed but not receiving a check amounts to 9.2m."

Republicans on Capitol Hill are filibustering a bill to extend the dole for up to 1.2m jobless facing an imminent cut-off. Dean Heller from Vermont called them "hobos". This really is starting to feel like 1932.

Washington's fiscal stimulus is draining away. It peaked in the first quarter, yet even then the economy eked out a growth rate of just 2.7pc. This compares with 5.1pc, 9.3pc, 8.1pc and 8.5pc in the four quarters coming off recession in the early 1980s.

The housing market is already crumbling as government props are pulled away. The expiry of homebuyers' tax credit led to a 30pc fall in the number of buyers signing contracts in May. "It is cataclysmic," said David Bloom from HSBC.

Federal tax rises are automatically baked into the pie. The Congressional Budget Office said fiscal policy will swing from
a net +2pc of GDP to -2pc by late 2011. The states and counties may have to cut as much as $180bn.

Investors are starting to chew over the awful possibility that America's recovery will stall just as Asia hits the buffers. China's manufacturing index has been falling since January, with a downward lurch in June to 50.4, just above the break-even line of 50. Momentum seems to be flagging everywhere, whether in Australian building permits, Turkish exports, or Japanese industrial output.

On Friday, Jacques Cailloux from RBS put out a "double-dip alert" for Europe. "The risk is rising fast. Absent an effective policy intervention to tackle the debt crisis on the periphery over coming months, the European economy will double dip in 2011," he said.

It is obvious what that policy should be for Europe, America, and Japan. If budgets are to shrink in an orderly fashion over several years – as they must, to avoid sovereign debt spirals – then central banks will have to cushion the blow keeping monetary policy ultra-loose for as long it takes.

The Fed is already eyeing the printing press again. "It's appropriate to think about what we would do under a deflationary scenario," said Dennis Lockhart for the Atlanta Fed. His colleague Kevin Warsh said the pros and cons of purchasing more bonds should be subject to "strict scrutiny", a comment I took as confirmation that the Fed Board is arguing internally about QE2.

Perhaps naively, I still think central banks have the tools to head off disaster. The question is whether they will do so fast enough, or even whether they wish to resist the chorus of 1930s liquidation taking charge of the debate. Last week the Bank for International Settlements called for combined fiscal and monetary tightening, lending its great authority to the forces of debt-deflation and mass unemployment. If even the BIS has lost the plot, God help us.
 
The news is out there, RF. I watch cable news and I hear about the job numbers all the time. In fact, it's big news and the big networks are starting to grind on it. They know where the money is.

Here's an a opinion from CNN.com, posted today:

Tom Foreman | BIO
AC360° Correspondent

Reporter's Note: President Obama continues to say a recovery is underway, but more and more it has all the appearance of being a jobless recovery. And that’s not good news, as I note in my latest letter to the White House.

Dear Mr. President,

I know that you have been trying to raise spirits with town hall meetings; I know you have been trying to increase optimism about the economy, but these jobs numbers are just making everything you say about the recovery seem like so much wishful thinking.

No matter how we slice it, we’re still pushing close to ten percent unemployment. That means out of every ten Americans who want work, one can’t find it. That’s terrible. And, btw, as you know that is not counting the people who have just given up. And it makes no allowance for the folks who have found work, but in jobs that pay less (sometimes a lot less) than their previous positions, because frankly I’m not hearing a lot of them talking about how much “more” they are making these days.

This is, hands down, the cruise missile heading right for the dead center of your party this fall. Yes, voters are still angry at the Republicans, but if you think just blaming everything on the previous landlords is going to get your team off of the hook, I fear you are sorely mistaken. There is more than enough fury to go around on this, and just as it has been for months now, the overwhelming opinion of voters is that Washington in general just doesn’t get it… not the Dems, not the Repubs, not anyone in power inside the Beltway.

And you know one reason why? Because in all fairness almost none of you run any real risk of suffering in this economy. It’s that simple. Oh sure, some of you may be voted out, but not one of your number will stand in an unemployment line, or fear losing the house, or wonder if he or she will ever have a job again. And for many Americans those are genuine worries.

I know this is difficult, but I think you should go to the office supply store, buy a piece of poster board and a marker, and write a great big screaming “9.5 percent” on it. Then hang it on the front of the White House. Everyday it will serve as a pointed and fearful reminder to you of the reality many voters are facing; a reality that no rah rah meeting or inspired speech can fix. Then try to lower that number. Because in the end, that is the only real solution. Don’t waste another minute trying to change impressions. Change the reality.

Hope your week gets off to a positive start. Do you need me to come by with that poster board? I think we have some in the attic.

Regards,
Tom


http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/05/letter-to-the-president-532-when-is-a-recovery-not-a-recovery/?iref=storysearch
 
Why Obamanomics Has Failed
Uncertainty about future taxes and regulations is enemy No. 1 of economic growth.
By ALLAN H. MELTZER

Preserved for moronic perpetuity.
 
What seems to me to be happening in a serious way today is the wide-scaled elimination of public sector jobs...something I'm not sure has ever happened before - on the scale that seems to be beginning.

Remember - one of the most "saving" tools of The Depression was the govts employment of millions of Americans. That's almost literally continued without significant interruption until...now.

A govt job has traditionally been the last bastion of job security; in fact, that security has been the core plumb of public employment. The pay has never been as high as the private sector, and it's shrinking rapidly today; the benefits are more solid (theoretically) than the private sector (about as solid as the dollar's value to gold:D); but, the security has always been the most appealing anchor.

Just as all those private sector, auto workers of days gone by who believed - generationaly - that all they had to do was land a job at an auto plant and they'd sail through life, now the security of public sector employment seems to be evaporating.

Not good news at all in a nation whose government is the single-largest employer.

The combinatorial anger that could arise from all the "betrayed" government ex-workers - who've not only lost that "security", but also those cush "benefits and pensions" and their "pay" - and the uber-dependent citizens who truly believe that it his THEIR right for water to automatically show up when they turn the faucet on - may be the torch that lights it all up...
 
What seems to me to be happening in a serious way today is the wide-scaled elimination of public sector jobs...something I'm not sure has ever happened before - on the scale that seems to be beginning.

WTF are you talking about? Public sector has been almost untouched during the fiercest job losses in memory. Even before that, here's what had been going on:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S0UpGv4hOsI/AAAAAAAAK_0/Hn0y9YYeiYY/s1600/10-01-03_goods_government.png

If we lost 3 million public sector jobs, which is of course never going to happen, we'd still be where we were in 2000.
 
Thank you Republicans and Democrats for really fucking up this country.

Of course, the citizens backed both these whackjob parties up so thank you to the masses, too. Dumb fucks.
 
Check out the link on Drudge this morning about the Head and Shoulders...




Knees and toes...



Barack Obama; at war with business since 2009.
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The US economy for a long period of time was the engine of world economic growth. We were sucking in imports from all across the world financed by huge amounts of consumer debt. Because of the financial crisis, but also because that debt was fundamentally unsustainable, the United States is not going to be able to serve in that same capacity to that same extent.
Barack Hussein Obama

We left corporate America, which is a lot of what we're asking young people to do. Don't go into corporate America. You know, become teachers. Work for the community. Be social workers. Be a nurse. Those are the careers that we need, and we're encouraging our young people to do that.
Michelle Obama
 
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I can't see a single obstacle to a 'double-dip' now. The 'adolescent in chief' owns this economy now, lock, stock, and barrel.

Ishmael
 
The few comebacks from across the isle of ignore have been very mean and adolescent; there are still a few hopeful holdouts who think as the rest of the slush fund is distributed, things are going to get better...
 
The few comebacks from across the isle of ignore have been very mean and adolescent; there are still a few hopeful holdouts who think as the rest of the slush fund is distributed, things are going to get better...

If how the first portion of the monies were pissed away is any indication they truly have that hard candy to their eyes 24/7.

Ishmael
 
We need someone with the political insight of von Humboldt and the economic foresight of von Mises and Hayek WITH Reagan's communication skills.

No love for Ayn Rand today?

The wingnut book-of-the-month club only seems to go about half the year.
 
Business-Power Neglect
By Larry Kudlow


This whole debate about government stimulus versus austerity, and the impact of these policies on economic growth, misses a key point: It is business, not government, that creates jobs.

The economic power of business is the missing link in the faux debate that is now raging over spending and deficit policies. A brief look at the recent jobs report for June tells this story. After spending more than $1 trillion through so-called government stimulus, we are at best experiencing a grinding and anemic jobs recovery. Private payrolls are growing slowly. The workweek is again shrinking. And average hourly earnings have declined. The unemployment rate dropped to 9.5 percent, but that's because 650,000 people left the labor force.


Most troubling, the household survey, which captures small owner-operated business employment, dropped 300,000 following a decline last month. In other words, this leading indicator is moving in the wrong direction. More generally, recent economic data suggest that the rate of recovery could be slowing to only 2 percent, or even less. Some fear a double-dip recession.
So what about all this stimulus spending? Well, it hasn't worked.

When you look at the recent gross domestic product reports, you find that the government contribution to economic growth has been about zero. This is because transfer payments don't contribute to the output of goods and services. We've had three recovery quarters where inflation-adjusted GDP growth averaged a sub-par 3.5 percent. But the federal contribution has been only two-tenths of 1 percent, while the state and local government contribution has been a small drag of three-tenths of 1 percent. In other words, a wash.

Liberal-left Nobel Prize winners like Paul Krugman and Joe Stiglitz believe government spending should be increased substantially. But if it hasn't worked up to now, why should we believe it will ever work? Taxing or borrowing from Peter to pay Paul does not create new investment or jobs. Nor do extended unemployment benefits.

Businesses create investment and jobs. I call it business power. And this power has been totally ignored in the debate over economic policy.
In a watershed study, former Treasury economists Gary and Aldona Robbins argued a few years ago that tax cuts aimed at capital and business produced the biggest economic benefits. For example, for every tax-cut dollar on capital gains, $10.61 of new GDP is created. For every dollar of accelerated business-investment tax write-offs, $9 of new GDP is created. And for every dollar of corporate tax cuts, $2.76 of new GDP is created.

This bang-for-the-buck analysis contrasts sharply with estimates for increased government spending. According to the White House, every dollar of new government spending creates about $1.50 of new GDP -- much weaker than the effects of business tax cuts. And the White House analysis looks like a stretch. The International Monetary Fund has a model that says every additional dollar of government spending creates only $0.70 of new GDP. So you have to borrow a buck to get 70 cents back. Not a good trade.

Clearly, neither of these spending multipliers holds a candle to the benefits of lower business tax rates. Incidentally, for deficit worriers, corporate tax cuts pay for themselves, as do lower tax rates on capital gains.

Fred Smith, the CEO of FedEx, does not have a Nobel Prize in economics. But he founded from scratch a gigantic global transportation and delivery company that has employed tens and tens of thousands of workers, something the Nobelists have never done. And Smith argues that the best job-creating measure would be a significant reduction in the corporate tax rate and a move to full expensing for business-investment tax write-offs. He's exactly right.

Japan intends to cut its corporate tax rate. So does Great Britain. But the U.S. corporate tax rate of 35 percent, or 40 percent when states are included, is not even remotely competitive anymore. So why aren't people talking about the economic benefits of unleashing business power? The rapidly growing Asian economies treat capital and business better than they're treated in the United States. Same for Europe. What are we waiting for?

During the Ronald Reagan 1980s, when a deep recession led to a 10.8 percent unemployment rate, the Gipper cut domestic discretionary spending, lowered tax rates across-the-board (including corporate tax rates) and sped up tax write-offs for business investment. The first two years of that recovery generated nearly 8 percent growth, with hundreds of thousands of new jobs created monthly.

Right now, we are facing one of the largest tax hikes in U.S. history, scheduled for 2011. Taxes on investor capital and business will go up significantly. So will individual income-tax rates. This is exactly the wrong medicine.

When will Washington come to its senses, and unleash the power of capital and business to end all this pessimism and move us toward real prosperity?
 
We need someone with Reagan's policies.

Like his policy of dramatically increasing deficit spending? Spending to get out of a recession?

Or his policy of raising taxes?

Which ones are you talking about?
 
so obama should go out and spend another 800 billion?


We arent in the great depression so why would you ask that question? Because you're the queen of putting words into people's mouths is why...

My point is that his analogy fails horribly.

By the way, 1/3 of that 800 billion was tax cuts. So only ~520 billion in spending. Nice spin on your part though.
 
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My point is that his analogy fails horribly.

By the way, 1/3 of that 800 billion was tax cuts. So only ~520 billion in spending. Nice spin on your part though.

so then, obama needs to run to china and borrow another 800 billion so that he can spend 520 billion ;)?
 
so then, obama needs to run to china and borrow another 800 billion so that he can spend 520 billion ;)?

No because we're not in the Great Depression and economic realities differ in 2010.

Classic Jenny... Putting words into other people's mouths when she can't generate her own thoughts.
 
No because we're not in the Great Depression and economic realities differ in 2010.

Classic Jenny... Putting words into other people's mouths when she can't generate her own thoughts.

Please….

Obama has been just as irresponsible as bush when it comes to spending, why can’t you see that?
 
Please….

Obama has been just as irresponsible as bush when it comes to spending, why can’t you see that?

Bush led us to WASTE over a trillion dollars in his quest for WMDs in Iraq. Obama is stimulating the economy. Why can't you see that?
 
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