Most Livable/Beautiful Cities--World and US

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Does anyone have opinons, here? Here is an international ranking, and some US city rankings. In the Mercer International Ranking, Vienna is first, and no US city is in the top 30-- then Boston and SF appear in the30s.

Livable has to do with amenities as well as appearance, beauty. The Mercer folks looked at eco-friendliness in terms of water purity; sewage disposal. Mercer is concerned with where business people might like to locate, and what compensation should be given.

The Forbes lists have emphasis on employment, low crime, BUT culture offerings as well.

I've tried for links to pictures, so if you know them, post them.

Name your favorites, both world and US.


Oh, and yes, skeptics, maybe it's-- all subjective, OR a capitalist plot, OR a socialist plot.

http://www.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/livable_cities_worldwide.html

http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.htm?idContent=1173105

Quality of Living worldwide city rankings 2010 – Mercer survey

United Kingdom
London, 26 May 2010

European cities continue to dominate the top of the ranking
Vienna remains at the top, Baghdad at the bottom
Calgary is first in the new Eco-city ranking

Vienna retains the top spot as the city with the world’s best quality of living, according to the Mercer 2010 Quality of Living Survey.
Zurich and Geneva follow in second and third position, respectively, while
Vancouver and Auckland remain joint fourth in the rankings.


Mercer conducts the ranking to help governments and multi-national companies compensate employees fairly when placing them on international assignments. The rankings are based on a point-scoring index, which sees Vienna score 108.6 and Baghdad 14.7. Cities are ranked against New York as the base city, with an index score of 100.
Mercer’s Quality of Living index list was revised and now covers 221 cities compared to 215 last year, which means direct trend comparison will not be possible until 2011. The new selection includes prominent capital and other major cities from across the world currently available in Mercer’s database and better reflects where companies are sending their expatriate employees in the current business environment.

Slagin Parakatil, Senior Researcher at Mercer, commented: “As the world economy becomes more globalised, cities beyond the traditional financial centres are emerging as attractive places in which to expand or establish a business. Cities in many emerging markets, such as in the Middle East or Asia, have seen a significant influx of foreign companies and their expatriate employees in recent years.”
“To ensure their expatriates are compensated appropriately and an adequate hardship allowance is included in their benefits package, companies seek a clear picture of the quality of living in these cities. We have reviewed our index to reflect these developments and it now better represents the cities that most interest our clients,” Mr Parakatil said.

European cities continue to dominate amongst the top 25 cities in the index. In the UK, London ranks at 39, while Birmingham is at 55 and Glasgow at 57. In the US, the highest ranking entry is Honolulu at position 31, followed by San Francisco at position 32. Singapore (28) is the top-scoring Asian city followed by Tokyo at 40. Baghdad, ranking 221, remains at the bottom of the list.

“Quality of living standards remained relatively stable on a global level throughout 2009 and the first half of 2010, but in certain regions and countries the economic recession had a noticeable impact on the business climate,” according to Mr Parakatil.

“Despite the economic downturn and companies’ efforts to contain costs, quality of living and hardship premiums remain important means of compensating expatriates for differences in living conditions. However, companies are more inclined to review the measurement of such allowances to ensure they are cost-effective."
This year’s ranking also identifies the cities with the best eco-ranking based on water availability and drinkability, waste removal, quality of sewage systems, air pollution and traffic congestion. Calgary is at the top of this index (score 145.7), followed by Honolulu in second place (score 145.1) and Ottawa and Helsinki in joint third (score 139.9). Wellington in New Zealand (5), Minneapolis (6), Adelaide (7) and Copenhagen fill the next four slots, while Kobe, Oslo and Stockholm share ninth place. Port-au-Prince in Haiti ranks at the bottom of this table with a score of only 27.8 (see attached table).
Mr Parakatil commented: “A high-ranking eco-city optimises its use of renewable energy sources and generates the lowest possible quantity of pollution (air, water, noise, etc). A city’s eco-status or attitude toward sustainability can have significant impact on the quality of living of its inhabitants. As a consequence these are also pertinent issues for companies that send employees and their families on long-term assignments abroad, especially considering the vast majority of expatriates are relocated to urban areas.”
“A certain standard of sustainability is essential for city living and forms a very important part of its inhabitants’ quality of living. Though a high standard of living may be taken for granted in certain cities, a lack thereof is much more noticeable and can even lead to severe hardship,” said Mr Parakatil.
Americas

Canadian cities still dominate the top of the index for this region with Vancouver (4) retaining the top spot, followed by Ottawa (14), Toronto (16) and Montreal (21). Calgary ranks 28 on the overall quality of living ranking.

Honolulu (31) is the city in the US with the highest quality of living, followed by San Francisco (32) and Boston (37). Chicago and Washington share position 45 and New York - the base city - is in position 49. Newly added cities Philadelphia and Dallas are ranked 55 and 61, respectively.
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http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/29/ci...obs-crime-income_slide_2.html?thisspeed=25000


[top] pittsburgh
ogden clearlfield UT
provo orem UT
ann arbor
harrisburg carlyle PA
omaha council bluffs
manchester nashua NH
trenton ewing NJ
bridgeport stamford CT
lincoln NB

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http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...ost+livable+cities&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbs=isch:1
older Forbes list

15. Little Rock, AR
14. Peabody, MA
13. Madison, WI
12. Harrisburg, PA
11. Denver, CO
10. Pittsburgh, PA
9. Worcester, MA
8. Baltimore, MD
7. Cambridge, MA
6. Oklahoma City, OK
5. Tulsa, OK
4. Stamford, CT
3. DES MOINES, IA
2. Bethesda, MD
1. Portland, OR

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...livable+US+cities&hl=en&sa=G&gbv=2&tbs=isch:1
 
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Where I live is justifiably perpetually on or near the top of the published lists for stateside small cities on this question: Charlottesville, Virginia.

On a world-wide scale, I have been impressed by Melbourne and Sydney in Australia.

Oslo, Bangkok, and Vienna not so much.

Cairo, Tel Aviv, and Madras, India, not at all.
 
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What's the criteria? Vienna is clean, orderly and with nice historic settings, but about as fun as a pet rock.
 
What's the criteria? Vienna is clean, orderly and with nice historic settings, but about as fun as a pet rock.

The first word in the slug is "livable," so I gave that priority in my thinking. I found Vienna stifling and hard to move around in. If it's just beauty of the center city, I think Washington, D.C.; Paris; and Prague are all awesome.
 
I'm kind of fond of Vienna, but I sure can't argue with Liar's description. Supposedly there's a decent clubbing scene, but I didn't get to sample it for myself. One thing's for sure, whatever excitements there are in that city, they're not readily apparent to a visitor.

I second Prague as absolutely enchanting, and I loved Barcelona too, though I can see why they, especially the latter, didn't make it very high on this list.

A city that's high on my I'd-like-to-see list: Saint Petersburg. I've never had the pleasure, but I've seen a doco where it impressed me as positively dreamy. Wouldn't live there, though—climate alone suffices as a reason.
 
I've only been to D.C., London and Vienna in August. They were all hot, muggy, smoggy and oppressive. I was underwhelmed.


This may just be my cloth-cap bigotry showing through but all of those locations are bureaucratocracies. Either they're governmental centers or financial ones. In the quick scan I gave them, none of them are industrial, even clean industries. I think Bloomberg is biased towards banks, bowlers and brollies.
 
I feel safe in saying any city I was in around the world would not be one I pick to live in other than the one in which I'm currently living.

London in October...dismal at best.
Shenzhen in May...nice but I wouldn't what to live there. (cheap DVD's though)
Seoul from March to November - I guess I lived there but it was on an Airbase.

US cities...
Denver - lived there for a couple of years, nice but...
Colorado Springs - lived there for three years...nice city if you're in the military, I was.
Atlanta - lived there for eight years, nice place, lot's to do, actually lived there twice, two years in the '70s and the last eight years in the '90s.
Chicago - born there lived there a long time...won't be going back except for a visit once in awhile.
Houston - live there now...so far so good. Hot in the summer, nice the rest of the year...no hurricanes last season.
San Fransisco - no way jose.
Los Angeles - nope, nice place to visit
Minot - nope too cold stationed there for a 30 day tdy, yuck.
New York - Nope, not my cup of tea
Nashville - could be a place to settle down, maybe
Lexington KY - Nice, too far north
Chattanooga TN - a definite maybe - nice aquarium
Florida - does it matter what city - no thanks, just a place to visit while on vacation
Wisconsin - I did see a lot of that state and while it is very pretty wouldn't really want to live there

The other places I visited have either been disregarded or just didn't make all that big of an impression on me. None of the cities on the list(s) made any kind of an impression on me...no I don't even want to visit them. :eek:
 
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Ah, the too far north business. Yes, pivotal for me. If I hadn't sunk money into a retirement home in Charlottesville, Virginia, right out of university and worked to that "end up" goal, I think I would have picked Asheville, North Carolina, or Savannah, Georgia, because they are warmer longer.
 
Canberra is barely a city at all, antiseptically clean, says it all really.

Liar is right about Vienna

Some other cities which should be on the list, Bristol, Norwich (both UK)

Bangalore India,

Ljubliana Slovenia(Europes most beautiful and tiny country),

Florence Italy,

Istanbul (Turkey) Europes largest city,

Nuremburg Germany,

Edinburgh Scotland

and Vientiane because I liked it and don't quite know why.


Most over rated city - easy winner is Dublin.
 
All those great places need some People of Color, Muslims if at all possible.
 
note

non white cities have been included.

Muslim Arabian cities: Abu Dhabi 83, Dubai 75

Africa (not South)
Banjul in Gambia (164) and Abuja in Nigeria (205).

note also a substantial muslim presence is major German cities such as Frankfurt, which just removed the crosses from one of its major hospitals.

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i'd like to hear more of peoples faves; what about US and Cdn. cities? San Francisco is a favorite of mine. Incredibly beautiful with all the steep hills and ocean view and frontage.

what cities are sexually most alive? :devil:
 
What's the criteria? Vienna is clean, orderly and with nice historic settings, but about as fun as a pet rock. I guess th rating is a matter of taste and mood.

My list would include:

1. Toronto, Canada for cleanliness, friendliness and also for the best Pride week in the freaking world.
2. Porto, Portugal for the most picturesque river in Europe, The Douro, and also some really great port wine.
3. Amsterdam, best pot in the world.
4. Barcelona for tapas, Flamenco and just a really cool Gothic part.
5. I need to think about it (aka, travel more)
 
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