Irish Nationalism.

[Sean]

Your thoughts?

 

[Alt]

Couldn't stop Henry's handball!

 

[Sean]

Couldn't stop Henry's handball!

Good point. I'm sure you're going to explain now how it filters in to how Ireland became the racist shithole it is now?

 

[unregistered]

 

[Alt]

Good point. I'm sure you're going to explain now how it filters in to how Ireland became the racist shithole it is now?

No, more like everything in moderation. I actually enjoy rural Ireland, but didn't find the locals to be as friendly as advertised.

 

[torchthebitch]

Good point. I'm sure you're going to explain now how it filters in to how Ireland became the racist shithole it is now?

The EU paradox

 

[Sean]

The EU paradox

You're biased. I'm not.

Tell me about murdering infants.

 

[torchthebitch]

You're biased. I'm not.

Tell me about murdering infants.

Know nothing about that. Ask Englishwomen living in Spain.

 

[Yesspleasse]

Your thoughts?

You first.

 

[torchthebitch]

Anyway, back to the question in hand.

In the beginning the EU was benign, and helped create the Celtic tiger. Families welcomed their children home from the US.

Then eastrn European contries joined. this was fine to begin with, but then German interest rats screwed the Irish economy. Families once more saw their children leave for jobs in the US. But at the same time Eastern European immigrants were forced onto the dole, just as the austerity programme was imposed, forcing Irish people to pay increased levels of tax. Meanwhile the eastern European immigrants signed for their dole, nipped up the road, to catch the E15 Ryanair flight back to poland etc, where their Irish dole money goes a lot further, flying back in two weeks later to sign on again.

BTW, the minimum wage in Ireland is E14, so the flight costs the equivalent of one hours work.

A mortgage on a house in Ireland costs a bit more than that. Hardly surprising Irish people are pissed off with foreigners.

 

[pabloback]

do they have any african missionaries there, like GB?
what goes around comes around

 

[Ham Murabi]

You're biased. I'm not.

Tell me about murdering infants.

You start with a coat hanger ...

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

It's up to the majority of Irish people to decide whether they wish to be independent or continue to be England's bitch.

 

[Yesspleasse]

It's up to the majority of Northern Irish people to decide whether they wish to be independent or continue to be British.

Fixed. :]

 

[rosco rathbone]

fenian bastards [/hobbit]

 

[Yesspleasse]

For understandable reasons (ie. having been fairly poor and oppressed for a long time) the Irish people (I am generalizing wildly here of course) recently grabbed the capitalistic worldview with both hands and jumped, worshipfully, into the pool of filthy lucre with both feet (now I am mixing metaphors too) during the Celtic Tiger.

In so doing, they were suckered by the lure of a foreign (ie. American), probably inherently poisonous free market idealism into giving up the very thing in which they were justly renowned as world leaders.

Craic.

By which I mean, laughter, music, the arts generally, living for the moment, humour, poetry, celebrating the absurdity of life (didn't Freud say that the Irish could not be psychoanalysed?), spending too much of the wage packet in the bar on a friday night......

And the joke of it is that, like an ironic game of pass the parcel, they were left holding the lucky bag when the music stopped.

 

[John Doe]

Fixed. :]

Same difference.

 

[Sean]

fenian bastards [/hobbit]

Papists!

 

[John Doe]

Am I the only one who feels like singing The Minstrel Boy?

 

[philosophygirl]

Am I the only one who feels like singing The Minstrel Boy?

yes, yes you are.

 

[John Doe]

yes, yes you are.

...

 

[torchthebitch]

For understandable reasons (ie. having been fairly poor and oppressed for a long time) the Irish people (I am generalizing wildly here of course) recently grabbed the capitalistic worldview with both hands and jumped, worshipfully, into the pool of filthy lucre with both feet (now I am mixing metaphors too) during the Celtic Tiger.

In so doing, they were suckered by the lure of a foreign (ie. American), probably inherently poisonous free market idealism into giving up the very thing in which they were justly renowned as world leaders.

Craic.

By which I mean, laughter, music, the arts generally, living for the moment, humour, poetry, celebrating the absurdity of life (didn't Freud say that the Irish could not be psychoanalysed?), spending too much of the wage packet in the bar on a friday night......

And the joke of it is that, like an ironic game of pass the parcel, they were left holding the lucky bag when the music stopped.

Fastest gameintheworld.

Pass the parcel in a Belfast pub.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Your thoughts?

Northern Ireland is an analogue to Israel.

Your thoughts?

 

[DroppedIn]

Northern Ireland is an analogue to Israel.

Your thoughts?

Hi I don't mean to jump in here - anyway - there is no comparison between Israel and NI. The only people in NI who are causing trouble are a few disaffected loonies who can't deal with the fact that NI wants to remain as part of the UK. So long as that remains the case NI will be part of the UK.

 

[Yesspleasse]

Northern Ireland is an analogue to Israel.

Your thoughts?

IMO, you can find some analagous components, but perhaps not as many as seem to be the case at first sight.

Though to be fair I only have first hand experience of NI and not Israel.