Weakness

[Lizzie_Borden]

I think they're being a little too optimistic, perhaps out of a lack of experience with a wide range of people.

Oh yes. Definitely that, in the case I'm thinking of.

But thinking more on it, I'm also forming an opinion on the over pc-ness of the world. The mollycoddling.

But that's a WHOLE other thing. Egads. Not opening that can o' worms right now.

But in a sense we are all guilty of this. I write words assuming everyone will understand them as I meant them, while my experience tells me that each reader will interpret the words according to their own interpretation and experience, which likely has little to do with the meaning I intended.

I know! It's mad.

I sit at the computer, communicating like I would in real life.. I make faces, I laugh, I wave my hands around... I often forget y'all can't see that, and are left trying to decipher my poorly constructed ramblings.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

I'm scared as.

Good.

You should be.

 

[BLoved]

I know it's sad not to go through the world meeting every adversary with Buddha-like wonderment ...

In a sense that is true.

Far too many poorly socialized individuals who would rather practice a 'shoot-first, ask questions later' form of vigilantism than understand a multi-generational process and thus find a more productive way of unravelling it.

Indeed, the more cruel these vigilantes choose to be with their "assholes" the more they perpetuate cruelty and thus justify the approach said "assholes" take towards the world.

If, indeed, it is a dog-eat-dog world out there, asshole-ism is as viable an approach as any other ... whatever gets you through the night.

If one does not dispense with cruelty in one's own life, how hypocritical is it to condemn it in others?

 

[JMohegan]

Well we KNOW I'm an asshole. But nothing brings on the asshole in me like "no, no, the person being SLAPPED just needs to turn the other cheek" and somehow the peson who's just been (insulted, genocided against, racism-ed, touched by the Priest) is the person who's oppressing the poor poor antihero who just didn't get hugged enough.

goody gumdrops if that's your theology and cosmology, but please leave everyone else out of it. Sorry there's just a LOT of co-optation of the one-down position going down out there.

You know, that asshole priest who compared outrage over sexual abuse scandals to "the more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism" has probably never even been laid. Think of the sexual frustration, of truly cosmic proportions!

Clearly, we should shut the fuck up about that asshole priest (not to mention the abuse itself), or our raindrops will add poison to society's pond.

And the pond's clearly poisoned enough at the moment, after all those historians, lib'ruls, and black people made the governor of Virginia amend his asshole proclamation on Confederate History Month, to include a reference to slavery. Clearly, it would have been better to just let the asshole version of "shared" Virginia history prevail.

 

[BLoved]

... our raindrops will add poison to society's pond ...

First Rule of Mediocrity: When one cannot achieve a higher standard, ridicule the standard.

 

[JMohegan]

First Rule of Mediocrity: When one cannot achieve a higher standard, ridicule the standard.

*chuckling*

You just broke your own raindrop rule.

 

[BLoved]

*chuckling*

You just broke your own raindrop rule.

Not at all.

There is a difference between education and ridicule.

One seeks to enlighten, the other seeks to isolate.

Society did not achieve this degree of corruption from people striving to achieve higher standards.

The corruption is a result of those who ridicule those standards.

Those who seek quick fixes and band-aid solutions fail to notice they've resolved nothing but their own need for revenge over whatever sleight they believe they've suffered.

 

[Homburg]

goody gumdrops if that's your theology and cosmology, but please leave everyone else out of it. Sorry there's just a LOT of co-optation of the one-down position going down out there.

It's almost Nietzschean. (Can I be proud of myself for spelling Nietzsche without looking it up?)

I'm a laugher when pain gets really bad as well. Bloody weird response.

 

[JMohegan]

Not at all.

There is a difference between education and ridicule.

One seeks to enlighten, the other seeks to isolate.

Society did not achieve this degree of corruption from people striving to achieve higher standards.

The corruption is a result of those who ridicule those standards.

Those who seek quick fixes and band-aid solutions fail to notice they've resolved nothing but their own need for revenge over whatever sleight they believe they've suffered.

You mean like the need for revenge evidenced by lashing out to call me mediocre?

Come on, man. Practice what you preach. Instead of hurling insults, "enlighten" me as to how humanity should properly deal with pedophiles, institutional coverups, and that asshole priest.

 

[eastern sun]

My greatest weakness is not that I cry too much (which I do) or that I care too much what you think of me (which I do) or that I pretend I can handle more than I can, and then get mad and/or depressed when I feel overwhelmed (which I do).

It's this damn superiority complex that needs feeding on a too regular basis.

The trouble with a superiority complex is that it's built on a faulty foundation in which my flaws and defects are so troubling to me that I have to reach for super-human just to find a degree of normality.

(Ok. Now I feel vulnerable. )

And that self-same superiority complex feeds on the weaknesses I see all around me.



edited the next day to add:

of course, now that I've mentioned this, the whole structure is compromised. As a result, I can't summon my sense of superiority at all. Instead, I've spent the day chasing hot links to publicdisgrace.com, procrasturbating, and wishing I could spar wits with the best of 'em on the general board.

 

[Keroin]

Ironically, BLoved's responses here are only confirming my belief that it's better for me to keep my vulnerability (weakness), under lock and key. While I'm not shy about rambling on this board, it isn't usual for me to share my soft underbelly. If, by doing so, I can expect a series of philosophical bitch slaps then, yeah, call this a one-off.

I'm a masochist not an idiot.

 

[Netzach]

In a sense that is true.

Far too many poorly socialized individuals who would rather practice a 'shoot-first, ask questions later' form of vigilantism than understand a multi-generational process and thus find a more productive way of unravelling it.

Indeed, the more cruel these vigilantes choose to be with their "assholes" the more they perpetuate cruelty and thus justify the approach said "assholes" take towards the world.

If, indeed, it is a dog-eat-dog world out there, asshole-ism is as viable an approach as any other ... whatever gets you through the night.

If one does not dispense with cruelty in one's own life, how hypocritical is it to condemn it in others?

This sounds remarkably familiar and I'll let you know you're having this conversation with the wrong person. No, sound judgment is not merely the province of the perfect. Sound judgment and a handful of laws allows us to function at better than Lord of the Flies functionality. Sometimes the bouncer just needs to listen to the guy and call him a cab, but sometimes he needs to pitch him out of there on his ass.

My worldview is shaped by an eye for an eye which is the most misunderstood concept ever in print. It doesn't leave everyone blinded it leaves assholes with poor depth perception and more hesitant to do the same thing again.

There's been a campaign to present Judaism as primitive for 2000 years or so, "an eye for an eye" SO much less enlightened than all things Jesusy.

At the time, morality was basically if you poke out my eye I get to kill you, your wife, your dog and the guy who brings your mail.

An eye for an eye is a call for proportional justice and law.

Things I'm quite comfortable with.

The guy who runs around with a sharpened stick is not the universe's problem - he's the problem of people with eyes who want to keep them.

 

[Cattypuss]

This thread is making me chuckle. For all the wrong reasons.

 

[BLoved]

Ironically, BLoved's responses here are only confirming my belief that it's better for me to keep my vulnerability (weakness), under lock and key. While I'm not shy about rambling on this board, it isn't usual for me to share my soft underbelly. If, by doing so, I can expect a series of philosophical bitch slaps then, yeah, call this a one-off.

I'm a masochist not an idiot.

You asked for opinions, and I've offered a point of view.

If you'd rather I not, I am sure I can find other things to do with my time.

The world is big enough I need not be where I am not wanted.

 

[Cattypuss]

<chuckle>

 

[Keroin]

I showed amazing strength today by not strangling my husband with my tape measure. And now I shall succumb to my weak side and let him buy me a burger and fries to make up for his inability to listen when I try to read written instructions prior to drilling holes.

 

[Keroin]

This thread is making me chuckle. For all the wrong reasons.

Well, I don't know what made you chuckle, CP, but this...

You just broke your own raindrop rule.

...made me spew beverage.

 

[YourCaptor]

Kay, you’re talking to a bunch of pervs who get off on power. We love your soft underbelly, its super sexy. No covering up.

Something you may want to think about. Showing emotions is not the weakens itself, it’s a symptom. Why do you not want to show them? Why do you think it’s bad to share personal stuff?

 

[Keroin]

Kay, you’re talking to a bunch of pervs who get off on power. We love your soft underbelly, its super sexy. No covering up.

Awww, thanks YC.

Something you may want to think about. Showing emotions is not the weakens itself, it’s a symptom. Why do you not want to show them? Why do you think it’s bad to share personal stuff?

Good questions. Lots of reasons, I guess. Mostly because experience has shown me that life works better for me when I keep a lid on certain things, when I exercise restraint and strive to be logical. Now, I don't think I am a cold fish or anything, (not that there's anything wrong with fish, cold or otherwise), I just think that not everyone needs to know what I'm feeling.

When I finally learned to let my Spock brain drive the car, there were a lot less accidents, let's just say that.

 

[rida]

*snip*
When I finally learned to let my Spock brain drive the car, there were a lot less accidents, let's just say that.

Buy I stopped seeing the rainbows ...

Been there, done that, (still doing it)

 

[Cattypuss]

Well, I don't know what made you chuckle, CP,.

People who act all holier-than-thou always make me laugh (at them - obviously - not with them - it's not possible to laugh with someone who has no sense of humour)

Edited to add - I'm not laughing any more now I've read this - it's just plain nasty - waaaay beyond holier-than-thou.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=33809888&postcount=64

 

[BLoved]

People who act all holier-than-thou always make me laugh (at them - obviously - not with them - it's not possible to laugh with someone who has no sense of humour)

Edited to add - I'm not laughing any more now I've read this - it's just plain nasty - waaaay beyond holier-than-thou.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=33809888&postcount=64

So anyone who demonstrates or champions a higher standard of behaviour is "holier-than thou"?

Sounds like you are advocating the lowest standard of behaviour.

If we all behave as assholes no one can be accused of being "holier than thou".

Considering the consequences of unethical behaviour, one might expect better from those who practice bdsm.

First Rule of Mediocrity: If you cannot achieve a higher standard, ridicule the standard ... and the standard bearer.

Those who think concepts like "consent" and "safewords" mean anything in bdsm should think twice before engaging in the practice ... as we can see, there are more than a few who view ethical behaviour as a subject for ridicule.

 

[Cattypuss]

I don't view ethical behaviour as a subject for ridicule (far from it) - you appear to have misunderstood me.

I view YOU as a subject for ridicule.

There. That should be a bit clearer.

 

[Netzach]

Wow, in theory shouldn't hubs just be asking himself what in his little kitten's past might *cause* her to look outside the marriage and smile while the cuckolding starts? I mean anything else would be judgmental and unfounded, we all have our albatrosses.

Or are we just plain full of it period? Wait, no let me straighten this out:

Sexual harassment is fine, and the ephithet "ASSHOLE" is unjustified in this case, but a wife going online and CHATTING/SHOWING TITS for sexual fulfillment isn't. The higher moral standard of treating the people you work with like human beings is just ~smiles~ but a woman who marries must instantly transform into the Virgin Mary.

NB: it is 2010. Smell the coffee.

If there was anything like a concept of ethics being demonstrated, there wouldn't be any "ridicule." It's calling out bullshit. A whole heaping help of double standard couched in smug pseudoethics.

 

[Keroin]

People who act all holier-than-thou always make me laugh (at them - obviously - not with them - it's not possible to laugh with someone who has no sense of humour)

Edited to add - I'm not laughing any more now I've read this - it's just plain nasty - waaaay beyond holier-than-thou.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=33809888&postcount=64

Oh no, no, no! You have to read this to really see this person's brain in its full glory.

Here I thought you were all just a group of friendly, intelligent folks who enjoy communicating in an environment where we are all free to talk about our kinks, or anything else that strikes our fancy, but NO! Turns out you are all a bunch of evil lust mongers, working to recruit poor, little me into your deviant lifestyle!!

I have been duped. Duped I say.