After 8 years of utter blindness, NOW govt spending is a problem?

misterx1969

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Kinda pissed to see my "conservative" friends posting Right wing smears everywhere as if they were truth. Cutting Americans Health Insurance Premiums being Called "Fascism" While they turn a blind eye to the great use of American Money and Lives the Iraq War has been.

They sat by, and stood silently as corporations got fat sending American's jobs to places like India, they stood quietly as our international prestige fell, along with our housing values (Billions and Billions spent on a hot war, Taking Thousands of our Soldier's Lives, Accomplishing NOTHING thats NOT Fascism),

Turned a CONSTANT blind eye to all of BUSH's overspending, but when it comes to a Democratically controlled Congress, Trying to institute fair practices, and fair cost for good working Americans who cant afford it is "Socialism"

Why are my good friends who are hard working Americans themselves, suddenly the puppets of right-wing millionaires protecting their own pockets.

No Bill Frist does not want this to Pass, He Owns an HMO, the Republican Conservatives are acting out of their own , petty self interest, while people who paid policies for years are getting their policies revoked, denied care, after making them rich they cut you!

And My friends are making all the slippery slope arguments like "They are trying to sneak in socialism into the last bastion of free market will."

Paying less isnt a BAD thing, but neo-cons are trying to convince you it is.
What bothers me is

Trillion for the war - No comment
Trillion to the American People for LOWER health care costs (No NO Revolt revolt)

Aren't the Conservatives always the ones to say "Take care of Americans 1st"

So why take the case of billionaire fat cats over your own kind? this is really disturbing me.

Former Ex-Independent thinkers i know are now like "Neil Harris says...., Rush Limbaugh Says....., Michael Savage Says, Glen Beck Says....."

They dont offer any solutions themselves, just bitch bitch bitch, Its an old boys network they have been coerced into protecting, for no good reason.

Do they feel a part of a Movement, what is this new McCarthyism? All these slippery slope arguments crying "Socialism, Communism Fascism" In light of what they have let PASS RIGHT BY THEIR EYES UNNOTICED for 8 Years, why is it ONLY NOW they See? ANd even then, to their own detriment and position, support billionaire Health Care Ceos over their own interests?

It doesn't make any sense! WHY WHY WHY? is the "I get my healthcare FOR FREE, I don't pay a cent for it, but everyone who does not have it MUST pay exorbitant rates" WHY is THIS the Issue you rally behind? I surely don't get it.

The HMOs don't give a shit about regular people... You pay your premium, and they kick you out of hospital early, deny you care, force higher and higher premiums and find every reason to raise you co-payment, AND deny you coverage, Put everyone through frustrating RED TAPE (You've never had to self advocate for yourself, or god forbid an elderly parent? I have...)

Why is this status quo something they rally to defend? I truly DON'T get it...
Why average people defending the Mega-Rich? Why they turn a blind eye to real Waste and Real Fascism, and cry about saving the economy Bush destroyed, and reigning in companies with unfair practices and call the last 2 facism while denying the 1st two? Why be a puppet to a Mega corporation who does not care that you live or die?


Please, leave all SMEARS like Death panels out of your replies, I'm hoping there are some people here who DON'T listen to the right wing lie machine in action.

Single Payer, Comprehensive Plan, About $500.00 a month right now, And If you write a salient reply, PLEASE, Include in your reply wether you get your Health Care as A Perk, or whether you PAY for it YOURSELF..

(I'm finding the people who rally the MOST against health care reform, are the ones who don't pay anyway, and THATS really weird, because it wont cost them, yet, they want to deny the chance to see a doctor for someone else?)
A chance to dominate the weaker? Playing out a power fantasy? Or is it just that they feel they belong? To a cause? To all who are championing this cause right now. Let me tell you. "Hard working Americans should have UN-AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE" is a shitty cause to be fighting for. Thanks for caring! Its not too much money to fight a Useless war, but it is, when it comes to cutting costs for all Americans.

Lemming like Conservatives, so called "Libertarians" and other right wing people, WHY after 8 years of GROSS INACTION on your part, is THIS the cause that rallys you? HONESTLY?

Thank YOU! For reading!
 
Wow!

What a great idea for a thread! It's amazing nobody has brought this up before.
 
Who in their right mind would be against health care?

Surely there is nobody ignorant enough.
 
Who in their right mind would be against health care?

Surely there is nobody ignorant enough.

Just the ones who buy into the propaganda put out by the interests of the drug companies, HMOs, medical establishment, owners of high profit hospitals.... need I go on?

Taking care of citizens by letting them die because they can't afford treatment, can't afford (or worse) have insurance denied, lose their homes to medical bills. Truly the American way.:rolleyes:
 
Who in their right mind would be against health care?

Surely there is nobody ignorant enough.

Shut up. You're from that communist country that makes sure all it's citizens can see doctors and stuff. That's just evil I tell you!
 
Kinda pissed to see my "conservative" friends posting Right wing smears everywhere as if they were truth. Cutting Americans Health Insurance Premiums being Called "Fascism" While they turn a blind eye to the great use of American Money and Lives the Iraq War has been.

They sat by, and stood silently as corporations got fat sending American's jobs to places like India, they stood quietly as our international prestige fell, along with our housing values (Billions and Billions spent on a hot war, Taking Thousands of our Soldier's Lives, Accomplishing NOTHING thats NOT Fascism),

Turned a CONSTANT blind eye to all of BUSH's overspending, but when it comes to a Democratically controlled Congress, Trying to institute fair practices, and fair cost for good working Americans who cant afford it is "Socialism"

Why are my good friends who are hard working Americans themselves, suddenly the puppets of right-wing millionaires protecting their own pockets.

No Bill Frist does not want this to Pass, He Owns an HMO, the Republican Conservatives are acting out of their own , petty self interest, while people who paid policies for years are getting their policies revoked, denied care, after making them rich they cut you!

And My friends are making all the slippery slope arguments like "They are trying to sneak in socialism into the last bastion of free market will."

Paying less isnt a BAD thing, but neo-cons are trying to convince you it is.
What bothers me is

Trillion for the war - No comment
Trillion to the American People for LOWER health care costs (No NO Revolt revolt)

Aren't the Conservatives always the ones to say "Take care of Americans 1st"

So why take the case of billionaire fat cats over your own kind? this is really disturbing me.

Former Ex-Independent thinkers i know are now like "Neil Harris says...., Rush Limbaugh Says....., Michael Savage Says, Glen Beck Says....."

They dont offer any solutions themselves, just bitch bitch bitch, Its an old boys network they have been coerced into protecting, for no good reason.

Do they feel a part of a Movement, what is this new McCarthyism? All these slippery slope arguments crying "Socialism, Communism Fascism" In light of what they have let PASS RIGHT BY THEIR EYES UNNOTICED for 8 Years, why is it ONLY NOW they See? ANd even then, to their own detriment and position, support billionaire Health Care Ceos over their own interests?

It doesn't make any sense! WHY WHY WHY? is the "I get my healthcare FOR FREE, I don't pay a cent for it, but everyone who does not have it MUST pay exorbitant rates" WHY is THIS the Issue you rally behind? I surely don't get it.

The HMOs don't give a shit about regular people... You pay your premium, and they kick you out of hospital early, deny you care, force higher and higher premiums and find every reason to raise you co-payment, AND deny you coverage, Put everyone through frustrating RED TAPE (You've never had to self advocate for yourself, or god forbid an elderly parent? I have...)

Why is this status quo something they rally to defend? I truly DON'T get it...
Why average people defending the Mega-Rich? Why they turn a blind eye to real Waste and Real Fascism, and cry about saving the economy Bush destroyed, and reigning in companies with unfair practices and call the last 2 facism while denying the 1st two? Why be a puppet to a Mega corporation who does not care that you live or die?


Please, leave all SMEARS like Death panels out of your replies, I'm hoping there are some people here who DON'T listen to the right wing lie machine in action.

Single Payer, Comprehensive Plan, About $500.00 a month right now, And If you write a salient reply, PLEASE, Include in your reply wether you get your Health Care as A Perk, or whether you PAY for it YOURSELF..

(I'm finding the people who rally the MOST against health care reform, are the ones who don't pay anyway, and THATS really weird, because it wont cost them, yet, they want to deny the chance to see a doctor for someone else?)
A chance to dominate the weaker? Playing out a power fantasy? Or is it just that they feel they belong? To a cause? To all who are championing this cause right now. Let me tell you. "Hard working Americans should have UN-AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE" is a shitty cause to be fighting for. Thanks for caring! Its not too much money to fight a Useless war, but it is, when it comes to cutting costs for all Americans.

Lemming like Conservatives, so called "Libertarians" and other right wing people, WHY after 8 years of GROSS INACTION on your part, is THIS the cause that rallys you? HONESTLY?

Thank YOU! For reading!

Worthless noob.

Iggy.
 
Just the ones who buy into the propaganda put out by the interests of the drug companies, HMOs, medical establishment, owners of high profit hospitals.... need I go on?

Taking care of citizens by letting them die because they can't afford treatment, can't afford (or worse) have insurance denied, lose their homes to medical bills. Truly the American way.:rolleyes:

Well, as Ishmael said, we all die! Of course, if a country doesn't take care of their work force, so goes the country. No big deal, I guess for those who don't want to. And, no one is going to make big profits if there are no consumers or people to partake in health care.

Oh, wait. That's happening too!

My mother use to say, "Cutting off your nose to spite your face is very short sighted."

The people who are against health care reform are also the ones who stood happily by while the reserves for medicare were used for the war for no reason but because the war mongers wanted to. But hey, it's an entitlement program that we all pay into...hmmmm. Well, some of us, although we were told it was an investment, it changed to an entitlement under George W admin who saw it as their personal bank. But the Iraqi government would pay it back, right? Well, that's what the war mongers said.

Again, Oh well.

Dick Cheney, the head warmonger, has had the best health care at our expense. Military health care for a guy who wouldn't even go to war. Can't beat that. And I'm sure he figured that he would be dead before the shit hits the fan. After he has had his government paid bypass, angioplasties and implanted defibrillator at government expense along with his own personal paramedic troops that we paid for while he traveled around as the vice president. All for poor life style choices. I'm sure his response would be "So?"

Our country is screwed on so many levels.

None of it can be justified. None of it.
 
Well, as Ishmael said, we all die! Of course, if a country doesn't take care of their work force, so goes the country. No big deal, I guess for those who don't want to. And, no one is going to make big profits if there are no consumers or people to partake in health care.

Oh, wait. That's happening too!

My mother use to say, "Cutting off your nose to spite your face is very short sighted."

The people who are against health care reform are also the ones who stood happily by while the reserves for medicare were used for the war for no reason but because the war mongers wanted to. But hey, it's an entitlement program that we all pay into...hmmmm. Well, some of us, although we were told it was an investment, it changed to an entitlement under George W admin who saw it as their personal bank. But the Iraqi government would pay it back, right? Well, that's what the war mongers said.

Again, Oh well.

Dick Cheney, the head warmonger, has had the best health care at our expense. Military health care for a guy who wouldn't even go to war. Can't beat that. And I'm sure he figured that he would be dead before the shit hits the fan. After he has had his government paid bypass, angioplasties and implanted defibrillator at government expense along with his own personal paramedic troops that we paid for while he traveled around as the vice president. All for poor life style choices. I'm sure his response would be "So?"

Our country is screwed on so many levels.

None of it can be justified. None of it.

Ishmael's brainbuster idea is that the USA can't afford to be a first-world country, so it should stop trying.
 
Republicans have never had a problem with massive deficits, so long as the money went to arms manufacturers.

But spend a dollar keeping a poor child alive?

It's the end of the world!!!
 
Humans do not make sense. Though we have been trying to figure them out since the dawn of time, they still elude us with stupidity.

...Oh crap, someone's about to use that against me. I can feel it.
 
I can't believe how they force you to have free health care up there.

It's terrible.

When my last child was born they had the nerve to charge me $100 because we got a private room with cable TV!

WTF are they doing giving the rooms away like that?

There are HUGE profits to be made off us Canadians.

Maple syrop ain't the only thing that runs slow 'round these parts!
 
It's terrible.

When my last child was born they had the nerve to charge me $100 because we got a private room with cable TV!

WTF are they doing giving the rooms away like that?

There are HUGE profits to be made off us Canadians.

Maple syrop ain't the only thing that runs slow 'round these parts!
I'm telling you, the way to get nationalized health care in this country is for Obama to start saying, "There is NOTHING you can say that will get me to give that to you. Nope. Nothing. Don't even try."

We're a fucking sitcom down here, Nipples.
 
Kinda pissed to see my "conservative" friends posting Right wing smears everywhere as if they were truth. Cutting Americans Health Insurance Premiums being Called "Fascism" While they turn a blind eye to the great use of American Money and Lives the Iraq War has been.

They sat by, and stood silently as corporations got fat sending American's jobs to places like India, they stood quietly as our international prestige fell, along with our housing values (Billions and Billions spent on a hot war, Taking Thousands of our Soldier's Lives, Accomplishing NOTHING thats NOT Fascism),

Turned a CONSTANT blind eye to all of BUSH's overspending, but when it comes to a Democratically controlled Congress, Trying to institute fair practices, and fair cost for good working Americans who cant afford it is "Socialism"

Why are my good friends who are hard working Americans themselves, suddenly the puppets of right-wing millionaires protecting their own pockets.

No Bill Frist does not want this to Pass, He Owns an HMO, the Republican Conservatives are acting out of their own , petty self interest, while people who paid policies for years are getting their policies revoked, denied care, after making them rich they cut you!

And My friends are making all the slippery slope arguments like "They are trying to sneak in socialism into the last bastion of free market will."

Paying less isnt a BAD thing, but neo-cons are trying to convince you it is.
What bothers me is

Trillion for the war - No comment
Trillion to the American People for LOWER health care costs (No NO Revolt revolt)

Aren't the Conservatives always the ones to say "Take care of Americans 1st"

So why take the case of billionaire fat cats over your own kind? this is really disturbing me.

Former Ex-Independent thinkers i know are now like "Neil Harris says...., Rush Limbaugh Says....., Michael Savage Says, Glen Beck Says....."

They dont offer any solutions themselves, just bitch bitch bitch, Its an old boys network they have been coerced into protecting, for no good reason.

Do they feel a part of a Movement, what is this new McCarthyism? All these slippery slope arguments crying "Socialism, Communism Fascism" In light of what they have let PASS RIGHT BY THEIR EYES UNNOTICED for 8 Years, why is it ONLY NOW they See? ANd even then, to their own detriment and position, support billionaire Health Care Ceos over their own interests?

It doesn't make any sense! WHY WHY WHY? is the "I get my healthcare FOR FREE, I don't pay a cent for it, but everyone who does not have it MUST pay exorbitant rates" WHY is THIS the Issue you rally behind? I surely don't get it.

The HMOs don't give a shit about regular people... You pay your premium, and they kick you out of hospital early, deny you care, force higher and higher premiums and find every reason to raise you co-payment, AND deny you coverage, Put everyone through frustrating RED TAPE (You've never had to self advocate for yourself, or god forbid an elderly parent? I have...)

Why is this status quo something they rally to defend? I truly DON'T get it...
Why average people defending the Mega-Rich? Why they turn a blind eye to real Waste and Real Fascism, and cry about saving the economy Bush destroyed, and reigning in companies with unfair practices and call the last 2 facism while denying the 1st two? Why be a puppet to a Mega corporation who does not care that you live or die?


Please, leave all SMEARS like Death panels out of your replies, I'm hoping there are some people here who DON'T listen to the right wing lie machine in action.

Single Payer, Comprehensive Plan, About $500.00 a month right now, And If you write a salient reply, PLEASE, Include in your reply wether you get your Health Care as A Perk, or whether you PAY for it YOURSELF..

(I'm finding the people who rally the MOST against health care reform, are the ones who don't pay anyway, and THATS really weird, because it wont cost them, yet, they want to deny the chance to see a doctor for someone else?)
A chance to dominate the weaker? Playing out a power fantasy? Or is it just that they feel they belong? To a cause? To all who are championing this cause right now. Let me tell you. "Hard working Americans should have UN-AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE" is a shitty cause to be fighting for. Thanks for caring! Its not too much money to fight a Useless war, but it is, when it comes to cutting costs for all Americans.

Lemming like Conservatives, so called "Libertarians" and other right wing people, WHY after 8 years of GROSS INACTION on your part, is THIS the cause that rallys you? HONESTLY?

Thank YOU! For reading!

I like how you kept this sharp and focused. You wouldn't believe it, but some people who post here ramble on about all kinds of vague shit.
 
After eight years of screaming about deficits, 5-% unemployment and the worst economy in 50 years...,




NOW government spending is our SALVATION???




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