Anonymous tool!

[vrosej10]

Some cowardly individual has been commenting on my work. I take negative comment well and I think this person is just being malicious, so I am challenging them to grow a set and comment on my poems to my face.

 

[bflagsst]

Which poems? Is it time for the bflagsst Detective Agency to solve another mystery of the anon critic? Are there any patterns, common language or punctuation that they use?

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Some cowardly individual has been commenting on my work. I take negative comment well and I think this person is just being malicious, so I am challenging them to grow a set and comment on my poems to my face.

Impossible ....... they haven't got a life of their own and the minimum anount of brain

 

[butters]

Some cowardly individual has been commenting on my work. I take negative comment well and I think this person is just being malicious, so I am challenging them to grow a set and comment on my poems to my face.

that's plain stupid. If you have an opinion you need to voice, why go anonymous? puerile behaviour. can't you erase their comments? Do you think, perhaps, this is an offshoot from your thread over on the GB, vj?

 

[normal jean]

chin up

Dear Rose-

I am so sorry to hear that you were bombed....we have all been through it in one way or other.

I haven't been here, except to pop in and see who has written what but a few times in the past several months, yet someone took the time to go through my poem page and one or 2 bomb me on every poem I had that had one of those tacky icons beside it.

At one time in my life,I would have been offended, but I just chuckled, thinking what you all just said, that he or she has no life.

I have read your poems, some of them, and left what I thought were kind, constructive comments, signed....I hope your troll gets hemorrhoids and I wish you a happy day!




just a bit of advice some friends gave me, when the trolls see you freak about it, they go at it harder and even though what has been done hurts, (I know it hurt me), and I took it personally. Sweet Poetess, don't let it get to you and the moron will eventually move on.

hugs and roses-

julie

 

[UnderYourSpell]

that's plain stupid. If you have an opinion you need to voice, why go anonymous? puerile behaviour. can't you erase their comments? Do you think, perhaps, this is an offshoot from your thread over on the GB, vj?

goes to see what you have been offshooting

 

[normal jean]

Rose-

I went through several of your poems looking for the atrocious comment and coulndn't find but one comment on the several poems I read through.

is THIS the awful thing that was said??

elegant/elegance
11/30/09 by Anonymous
your word of the day perhaps?


We should start a thread where we list the meanest most hateful FB ever left, anon OR signed....I don't see hideousness in this comment, though the score is too low for the poem quality, it deserved better. But, was that tidbit worth working yourself up? Wait until you get something like--

comments that don't deserve reprinting.... that was tame is what I am saying. Ask around...what you got is a compliment compared to some of the tripe that has been left on mine and the work of others.

Please don't let some anonymous asshole run off another bright person ( YOU) from this place.

 

[lorencino]

Rose-

I went through several of your poems looking for the atrocious comment and coulndn't find but one comment on the several poems I read through.

is THIS the awful thing that was said??

elegant/elegance
11/30/09 by Anonymous
your word of the day perhaps?


We should start a thread where we list the meanest most hateful FB ever left, anon OR signed....I don't see hideousness in this comment, though the score is too low for the poem quality, it deserved better. But, was that tidbit worth working yourself up? Wait until you get something like--

comments that don't deserve reprinting.... that was tame is what I am saying. Ask around...what you got is a compliment compared to some of the tripe that has been left on mine and the work of others.

Please don't let some anonymous asshole run off another bright person ( YOU) from this place.

I agree. If someone is taking the trouble to be nasty anonymously over something you write, the logical reaction is to take pity on the poor tortured soul that finds it necessary lash out at like that. The poor anon fuckers are just frittering away their lives bathing in a pool of vile. Let the fuckers rot in their misery and don't let it scare you away from the people here who appreciate your creative contributions.

 

[vrosej10]

Rose-

I went through several of your poems looking for the atrocious comment and coulndn't find but one comment on the several poems I read through.

is THIS the awful thing that was said??

elegant/elegance
11/30/09 by Anonymous
your word of the day perhaps?


We should start a thread where we list the meanest most hateful FB ever left, anon OR signed....I don't see hideousness in this comment, though the score is too low for the poem quality, it deserved better. But, was that tidbit worth working yourself up? Wait until you get something like--

comments that don't deserve reprinting.... that was tame is what I am saying. Ask around...what you got is a compliment compared to some of the tripe that has been left on mine and the work of others.

Please don't let some anonymous asshole run off another bright person ( YOU) from this place.

There was also one on Adult Alphabet too. I suspect, given the voice, it's the same person. I actually take literary criticism well, but this dude was just being hateful for the sake of it. I was just hoping to flush him out maybe. Pretty stupid on my part, but I was angry. There are probably stupider thing I could have done...

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Silly question time from someone who should already know the answer! How do I bring up someones poetry? I know clicking on the name brings up the profile but if there' no link to the poetry how do I find it?

 

[vrosej10]

Silly question time from someone who should already know the answer! How do I bring up someones poetry? I know clicking on the name brings up the profile but if there' no link to the poetry how do I find it?

Try clicking on the name in the poetry listing itself. I think it works, cause i did it with yours ... I think. My brain is mush from too much uni tonight.

 

[bflagsst]

Silly question time from someone who should already know the answer! How do I bring up someones poetry? I know clicking on the name brings up the profile but if there' no link to the poetry how do I find it?

Some folks don't have their literotica submissions page linked to their message board profile. Sometimes you have to go over to "search members" on the index page and copy-paste their name in there--that is if you really want to read someone's work.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Some folks don't have their literotica submissions page linked to their message board profile. Sometimes you have to go over to "search members" on the index page and copy-paste their name in there--that is if you really want to read someone's work.

I did that and it came up that Rose had 4 poems!!

 

[jthserra]

In defense of Anonymous

There was also one on Adult Alphabet too. I suspect, given the voice, it's the same person. I actually take literary criticism well, but this dude was just being hateful for the sake of it. I was just hoping to flush him out maybe. Pretty stupid on my part, but I was angry. There are probably stupider thing I could have done...

Sometimes the anonymous comments come from readers who are not members of lit. I don't think an anonymous comment should be summarily discounted because it is anonymous. I read a number of your poems and commented and as I commented on Adult Alphabet I had to agree with the anonymous comment. It simply didn't indicate the insight or poetic wit of a writer who wrote "She sits, fractured, on the curb." That is good poetry, Adult Alphabet, even if written in jest is not.

jt


PS... you should try writing more prose, especially in the loving wives arena, then you will learn about malicious anonymous comments.

 

[vrosej10]

Sometimes the anonymous comments come from readers who are not members of lit. I don't think an anonymous comment should be summarily discounted because it is anonymous. I read a number of your poems and commented and as I commented on Adult Alphabet I had to agree with the anonymous comment. It simply didn't indicate the insight or poetic wit of a writer who wrote "She sits, fractured, on the curb." That is good poetry, Adult Alphabet, even if written in jest is not.

jt


PS... you should try writing more prose, especially in the loving wives arena, then you will learn about malicious anonymous comments.

He's at it again, but the thing is, I am delighted to get criticism. I didn't ignore his comments; it was his tone that bugged me. He seemed to be heckling rather that commenting.

 

[Angeline]

Sorry to hear you are getting trolled in comments (and maybe votes, too?). I've had it happen many times. I always figure I might actually learn something from the crit and if not, it's no skin off my nose. If someone wants to make an effort to say my poems suck, so be it. It's a free country, erm cyberspace,

 

[PandoraGlitters]

Pfft. I never pay attention to that stuff. That's the main reason I don't submit anything here. I had put up a Triolet I was quite proud of whom a professor of poetry called strong lyric poetry, commenting positively on the themes. I had, after a year, one vote on it. The vote was a 5 and the comment was from annaswirls who said really lovely things about the poem. But though several hundred people supposedly saw it after that, not one other person voted or commented. Eventually I took it down to shop it around for publication though whether I can do that now, after having submitted it to Lit, is really a bit of a gray area, isn't it?

Because so few people vote much less give feedback, I really don't see much of a point to the poetry in submissions. The forum's purpose is very clear and quite useful. This forum keeps me writing even when I am feeling lazy. That I am profoundly grateful for. The submissions? meh. I could take it or leave it, honestly. Whomever is reading poems in submissions is not fond of me as a writer. People seem afraid to vote lest they might somehow diminish their own scores. It's kinda goofy. *shrug*

 

[Epmd607]

Pfft. I never pay attention to that stuff. That's the main reason I don't submit anything here. I had put up a Triolet I was quite proud of whom a professor of poetry called strong lyric poetry, commenting positively on the themes. I had, after a year, one vote on it. The vote was a 5 and the comment was from annaswirls who said really lovely things about the poem. But though several hundred people supposedly saw it after that, not one other person voted or commented. Eventually I took it down to shop it around for publication though whether I can do that now, after having submitted it to Lit, is really a bit of a gray area, isn't it?

Because so few people vote much less give feedback, I really don't see much of a point to the poetry in submissions. The forum's purpose is very clear and quite useful. This forum keeps me writing even when I am feeling lazy. That I am profoundly grateful for. The submissions? meh. I could take it or leave it, honestly. Whomever is reading poems in submissions is not fond of me as a writer. People seem afraid to vote lest they might somehow diminish their own scores. It's kinda goofy. *shrug*

I think it's a matter of volume. In story world it's easier to predict the reception of something, just for the fact that you'll get at least 5,000 browses and usually evidence that a dozen or so people have made it to the end of the story by the first or second day something's posted.

In poetry world it seems like all poems eventually get to 1000 views, but usually not even ten votes. I pretty much followed everyone else that sticks around here, I stopped posting poems because I'm sure no one's actually reading them. Most of my poems aren't sex poems, and even if they were I'm not sure they'd get more votes. I view votes as a show of interest, that's why I like when I get over a hundred on some story, it means at least a hundred people have read something of mine.

Literotica really isn't the place to show your poems, maybe it's better here than most places to talk about poetry. But getting people to read your work you'll have to go somewhere else. I've looked around, it seems like you can't have it both ways in one place. Either people are reading poems and not talking about poems, or they're talking about poems and not reading each other. Sure, you can make a couple friends and you read each other, but I'm talking about website wide behaviour. That's why we were thinking about how to make a website where people do both. No plan yet.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Well I like posting her I don't do it anywhere else although I tried Editred for a while and got far more disallusioned there than I ever have on here.

 

[butters]

Well I like posting her I don't do it anywhere else although I tried Editred for a while and got far more disallusioned there than I ever have on here.

shame, isn't it?
I wish you'd have known it about 3 years ago. the place was shmokin with talent, wit, and life.

 

[Lady_Fiona]

Sorry to hear you are getting bombed at the moment.

My last story was a bit of train wreck although I have been told it was well written. It was only a train wreck from the point of view of the subject matter (Gemma if anyone is interested) and I do take all comments on board but those people who leave the most scathing comments are always annonymous which denys us the right to reply. Pisses me off highly, to be told I know nothing about a subject which I know full well is not all hearts and roses.

My view? Let em get on with it, if they are too cowardly to let me know who they are I couldn't give a rats bum.

Hope you come out of the other side of it soon luvvie.

 

[hmmnmm]

Well, like I mentioned elsewhere, it's really not hard to find that this Lit world has established a greater preeminence than it might ought. It happens to me more often than I care to publicly admit. And it was such a good thing to get away from it for a few days. I mean there's whole bunches of wonderful worlds out there. I think something like Lit should be like one of many accessories to don or leave off; not an absent ornament from one's day or week, but certainly not a top priority. But it sure does have a way of sneaking up there near to the top and fanning its appendages like vinery through the mind, so when something like a nasty comment (whether with or without a lot or a little or no legitimacy) appears it can be that much more tough to handle. Then it's like Lit's importance suddenly doubles.

I personally have a much easier time with the poetry than the stories, precisely because the things I loosely dare call poetics are really not that important to me. They're just mostly fuckaround sketches and doodles and scribbles, so if somebody out there wants to say my sketches and scribbles suck, any debilitative effect does not penetrate too deep, because I didn't really give much of a fuck to begin with.

Stories are a different story. I mean I personally love scribbling and sketching with prose as much anything else. But they call for much greater and intimate investment of mental energies and time. With a few notable exceptions, most of my prose attempts fare horrendously, and because of the energies invested the boos and hisses do go deeper and are more painful than the poetry; so I just don't bother with stories on here anymore. Because Lit's importance has to necessarily grow large which means it suffers all the more when the inevitable axes strike at it. I just ain't that tough. So I peck at prose/fiction on my own time and if something ever someday reaches any semblance of completion, then I'll worry about what to do with it, if anything other than toss it in a box. And it alleviates the worry of having to make sure it's erotic enough or the paragraphs are computer-screen-friendly, and so on...

Well, there was a point to all this, but it seems it done went and hid.

Maybe just to reiterate it did me good to walk away from it for a few days. I won't assume it's the remedy for anyone else, but I suggest giving it a try just to see how it works out.

Now I'm off to peck out some purposeless prose.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

shame, isn't it?
I wish you'd have known it about 3 years ago. the place was shmokin with talent, wit, and life.

It is a shame if it was like that perhaps I failed the initiation test or something because I was supposed to take critique but when I repaid the favour ........ shock horror who was this newbie to criticise?!!

Sorry to hear you are getting bombed at the moment.

My last story was a bit of train wreck although I have been told it was well written. It was only a train wreck from the point of view of the subject matter (Gemma if anyone is interested) and I do take all comments on board but those people who leave the most scathing comments are always annonymous which denys us the right to reply. Pisses me off highly, to be told I know nothing about a subject which I know full well is not all hearts and roses.

My view? Let em get on with it, if they are too cowardly to let me know who they are I couldn't give a rats bum.

Hope you come out of the other side of it soon luvvie.

lol @ rats bum anyone who can coin that phrase is ok with me!

 

[butters]

It is a shame if it was like that perhaps I failed the initiation test or something because I was supposed to take critique but when I repaid the favour ........ shock horror who was this newbie to criticise?!!



lol @ rats bum anyone who can coin that phrase is ok with me!

oh it was like that. there were publishers and poets and authors and those who were bits of this and that. we held online 'parties' where all manner of exciting writing happened, poetry, prose, pornishy stuff. drunk and stoned people sometimes write some cool shit alongside the sober and even if some didn't make sense at the time there was still that spark of minds bouncing creatively off eachother. Imagine the shock when I signed back in after my haitus to be met with - well, you saw it. people move on. sigh.

the people there now would mostly lack the imagination to invent any initiation test.

 

[PandoraGlitters]

I love hearing you talk about that site, Chip. I had a poetry reading tonight at my online venue and had 40 people all coming to share or listen to poetry. People from Germany, Switzerland, England and all over North America gathered in virtual space to read. It was really exciting. Some of the poets are new, as they are here, but many were quite good. Couple of professors, lots of teachers. It was lovely.