It isn't just liberals (political)

[Liar]

This bit of the "European press" is owned by one Rupert Murdoch an American (who we got shot of). I understand he also sets editorial policy at Fox the well known source of reticent jounalism.

Murdoch owns BBC?

 

[ishtat]

The only reason Box, JBJ, Amicus and the other extremists of their type are hysterical about President Obama is because he is a nigger, not because he is black or coloured or Afro American but in their nasty little mind he is an uppity nigger.

Looks nasty in print does it not but that is the poison which is driving this hysteria.

It is far far too soon to pronounce judgement on Obama.

PS I specifically exclude Jenny J from my first paragraph because she was always a Hillary supporter

 

[Epmd607]

The only reason Box, JBJ, Amicus and the other extremists of their type are hysterical about President Obama is because he is a nigger, not because he is black or coloured or Afro American but in their nasty little mind he is an uppity nigger.

Looks nasty in print does it not but that is the poison which is driving this hysteria.

It is far far too soon to pronounce judgement on Obama.

PS I specifically exclude Jenny J from my first paragraph because she was always a Hillary supporter

I doubt it, they were the same people that were just as hysterical over the 'liberal' john kerry, he was the last 'socialist'.

 

[xssve]

Scruples? From Chicago? What a laugh. Barry has lied more in the first eight months of his presidency than Double U did in eight years. Every aspect of "HIS" healthcare bill that was brought out into the daylight he has lied about what is in the bill. When he tells you that Cap and Tax...I mean the Pollution Reform Bill will create thousands of jobs but, doesn't tell you about the million that will be lost...he's lying by omission.

His scruples are lopsided...of course his scruples allow you to lie to the great unwashed mass whose only use is to put him in office.

Give me a sock puppet quote where he wasn't lying.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Willful ignaorance personified;

Scruples? From Chicago? What a laugh. Barry has lied more in the first eight months of his presidency than Double U did in eight years. Every aspect of "HIS" healthcare bill that was brought out into the daylight he has lied about what is in the bill. When he tells you that Cap and Tax...I mean the Pollution Reform Bill will create thousands of jobs but, doesn't tell you about the million that will be lost...he's lying by omission.

His scruples are lopsided...of course his scruples allow you to lie to the great unwashed mass whose only use is to put him in office.

You make baby Jesus cry, Zeb.

 

[xssve]

I agree. The best is how people present Obama as the face of the financial bailout and stimulus. It's pretty much all Bushy, everything up to healthcare was Bush and the FED trying to prevent deflationary quagmire. The car companies, Citigroup wouldn't have been handled differently if Ronnie Reagan was in the White House.

National Healthcare, that's all Obama, and if there's not serious national coverage of the uninsured we should all be embarrassed. There's never been a country that's produced wealth like ours, and Latvia, Estonia, Rumania treat human beings before they die of renal failure from common illnesses and infections.

They should be on their knees thanking their uncle Bernanke that they still have a pot to piss in.

Pubs spent the last Eight years doing their level best to totally bankrupt SS and Medicaid/Medicare and let the devil take the hindmost, that's where the money for the tax cuts came from.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Oh trust me, no one in their right mind yearns for the pre WWII brand of good old days.

Except for racists, sexists, homophobes and the simple-minded.

The rest of us, who remember being bullied and victimised, are way the hell glad to be rid of that crap.

But you know, there was a short period of time when people would have been ashamed to exhibit the kind of ignorance that the right wing has been flaunting.

I'm surprised you are old enough to REMEMBER pre-WW2. I was born two years before Pearl Harbor, and I have isolated memories during WW2, but all involving me personally. I was bullied sometimes, by people who did so because they could get away with it. As for why there are bullies, it's because some people enjoy it and find it fun. I never did, and I was never a bully.

 

[Boxlicker101]

This bit of the "European press" is owned by one Rupert Murdoch an American (who we got shot of). I understand he also sets editorial policy at Fox the well known source of reticent jounalism.

Murdoch is an Australian. He operatres all over the world, but he is based Down Under.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

I don't know why I bothered to include that link, because it is such common knowledge. I also wonder why nobody else has corrected your misstatement.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The only reason Box, JBJ, Amicus and the other extremists of their type are hysterical about President Obama is because he is a nigger, not because he is black or coloured or Afro American but in their nasty little mind he is an uppity nigger.

Looks nasty in print does it not but that is the poison which is driving this hysteria.

It is far far too soon to pronounce judgement on Obama.

PS I specifically exclude Jenny J from my first paragraph because she was always a Hillary supporter

That's ridiculous and insulting. You may not believe it, but I voted for Obama in the CA promary, although I voted for McCain in the November election. Four years earlier, I voted against Bush and four years before that, I voted for Gore.

 

[Stella_Omega]

That's ridiculous and insulting. You may not believe it, but I voted for Obama in the CA promary, although I voted for McCain in the November election. Four years earlier, I voted against Bush and four years before that, I voted for Gore.

Well, that makes a wierd, Boxlicking kind of sense.

 

[TE999]

The only reason Box, JBJ, Amicus and the other extremists of their type are hysterical about President Obama is because he is a nigger, not because he is black or coloured or Afro American but in their nasty little mind he is an uppity nigger.

Looks nasty in print does it not but that is the poison which is driving this hysteria.

It is far far too soon to pronounce judgement on Obama.

PS I specifically exclude Jenny J from my first paragraph because she was always a Hillary supporter

That repulsive screed up there is in no small way why Obama was chosen by the party faithful as their candidate. If anyone criticizes the POTUS, why they must be racist! Disgraceful! It's the ultimate PC trump card to all objections large and small.

Furthermore, there's no 'grace period' for a new president to be immune from criticisim. You're under scrutiny from the minute you walk in the Oval office. As Harry Truman once said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

 

[Huckleman2000]

Murdoch is an Australian. He operatres all over the world, but he is based Down Under.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

I don't know why I bothered to include that link, because it is such common knowledge. I also wonder why nobody else has corrected your misstatement.

It wasn't a misstatement. Murdoch became an American citizen in order to buy television stations, which could not be owned by foreigners.

 

[Huckleman2000]

[...]PS I specifically exclude Jenny J from my first paragraph because she was always a Hillary supporter

Given her vitriolic stance vis-a-vis anything Obama (whose government is filled with Clinton supporters), how can you reconcile that her knee-jerk diatribes are anything BUT racist?

 

[xssve]

That repulsive screed up there is in no small way why Obama was chosen by the party faithful as their candidate. If anyone criticizes the POTUS, why they must be racist! Disgraceful! It's the ultimate PC trump card to all objections large and small.

Furthermore, there's no 'grace period' for a new president to be immune from criticisim. You're under scrutiny from the minute you walk in the Oval office. As Harry Truman once said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Racism! When it was Bush being criticized for things he'd actually done - or undone - it was merely treason.

 

[TE999]

Racism! When it was Bush being criticized for things he'd actually done - or undone - it was merely treason.

I'm well aware that critics of GWB were called treasonous...which was, and is, as ridiculous as calling anyone who criticizes Obama a racist.

Those are shouts from the back benches...and don't reflect public opinion as a whole.

 

[xssve]

I'm well aware that critics of GWB were called treasonous...which was, and is, as ridiculous as calling anyone who criticizes Obama a racist.

I suppose, if you define treason, an executable offense at a time when Habeus corpus has been suspended, as merely "ridiculous".

I don't believe racism exposes one to the risk of summary execution, and that's one not-so-fine distinction.

 

[TE999]

I suppose, if you define treason, an executable offense at a time when Habeus corpus has been suspended, as merely "ridiculous".

I don't believe racism exposes one to the risk of summary execution, and that's one not-so-fine distinction.

I don't recall anyone being executed for treason since the Rosenberg's, and we've had out share of traitors since then. I know Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War...and Roosevelt de facto did the same with the Japanese citizens in WWII.

I'm sure there are a number of Black persons in the South who's relatives were paid a visit by the Klan that would disagree with you.

My point is casually tossing such epithets around in response to criticisim cheapens the value of their linguistic coinage. Much as that congressman comparing the health care situation to the Holocaust.

 

[Edward Teach]

I'm not actually "afraid" of a military takeover, but I do believe the likelihood of the president suspending the Constitution and ruling by fiat is greater now than any other time since WW2. I don't expect it to happen, but I think the chances are greater.

Now that Obama is responsible for the prosecution of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only thing he has done different is discuss sending more troops to the latter. I believe it is something that needs to be done, and I don't believe it makes him a war criminal.

Obama may have some scruples, but I don't trust ANY successful pol. from Chicago.

Jesus fucking Christ! And he's a nigger to boot, ain't he, Box.

 

[Boxlicker101]

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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I'm not actually "afraid" of a military takeover, but I do believe the likelihood of the president suspending the Constitution and ruling by fiat is greater now than any other time since WW2. I don't expect it to happen, but I think the chances are greater.

Now that Obama is responsible for the prosecution of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only thing he has done different is discuss sending more troops to the latter. I believe it is something that needs to be done, and I don't believe it makes him a war criminal.

Obama may have some scruples, but I don't trust ANY successful pol. from Chicago.

Jesus fucking Christ! And he's a nigger to boot, ain't he, Box.

Do you say that because I mentioned the extremely remote possibility of a coup attempt or because I said Obama is a successful pol. from Chicago?

Personally, I do not consider a person's race to have anything to do with anything.

 

[Edward Teach]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I'm not actually "afraid" of a military takeover, but I do believe the likelihood of the president suspending the Constitution and ruling by fiat is greater now than any other time since WW2. I don't expect it to happen, but I think the chances are greater.

Now that Obama is responsible for the prosecution of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only thing he has done different is discuss sending more troops to the latter. I believe it is something that needs to be done, and I don't believe it makes him a war criminal.

Obama may have some scruples, but I don't trust ANY successful pol. from Chicago.




Do you say that because I mentioned the extremely remote possibility of a coup attempt or because I said Obama is a successful pol. from Chicago?

Personally, I do not consider a person's race to have anything to do with anything.

My point, Box, is that you are engaging in bigot speak, "I don't trust ANY successful pol. from Chicago," and you don't seem to even realize it. It's akin to saying that you don't trust ANY soldier in Iraq because of what a few did at a prison.

 

[xssve]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I'm not actually "afraid" of a military takeover, but I do believe the likelihood of the president suspending the Constitution and ruling by fiat is greater now than any other time since WW2. I don't expect it to happen, but I think the chances are greater.

Funny, because this is the frst time this decade I haven't felt that way - you're setting it up just by talking like that, that's the point of Krugmans column.

My point is casually tossing such epithets around in response to criticisim cheapens the value of their linguistic coinage. Much as that congressman comparing the health care situation to the Holocaust.

The point is taken, but if you're going to set a precedent, you're gonna have to live with it, and understand that it cuts both ways.

The genie is out of the bottle, you can't just cork it up again when it turns out to be suddenly inconvenient for you.

And if you're telling me that racism has nothing to do with it, I'm calling bullshit, nobody mentioned it until Carter spoke up, and he ought to know - Obama played it off because he knows full well it's counterproductive even if it is true - it'll just turn into the same circle jerk we've been enjoying for the last Eight years - it's irrelevant to running the country which is what he was hired to do by the electorate.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Funny, because this is the frst time this decade I haven't felt that way - you're setting it up just by talking like that, that's the point of Krugmans column.

The point is taken, but if you're going to set a precedent, you're gonna have to live with it, and understand that it cuts both ways.

The genie is out of the bottle, you can't just cork it up again when it turns out to be suddenly inconvenient for you.

And if you're telling me that racism has nothing to do with it, I'm calling bullshit, nobody mentioned it until Carter spoke up, and he ought to know - Obama played it off because he knows full well it's counterproductive even if it is true - it'll just turn into the same circle jerk we've been enjoying for the last Eight years - it's irrelevant to running the country which is what he was hired to do by the electorate.

What does Krugman have to do with this, except that he is one of the people who were meant in the two links in the first post?

And, I'm setting up what, and what point is taken and what genie do you mean?

Of course there are some who criticize Obama because of his race. I'm not such a Pollyanna to believe that racism has suddenly ceased to exist. However, there are more who criticize Obama because of some of his policies, and I am one of them. Why would Carter know anything about what I think? Are you aware that he was a Dem. at the time racism and segregation was rampant in Georgia, and the state was mostly run by Dems such as George Wallace and Lester Maddox?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Box, Box.

If I point out that you are being obtuse, linear, and mulish, will you take it as a kindly critique?

because I know your heart's in the right place-- sitting on top of your liver-- all I can do is shake my head and laugh when you start these things anymore.

But jeeezuz keerist, you sound like a freaking moron!

Funny, because this is the first time this decade I haven't felt that way -

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[Boxlicker101]

My point, Box, is that you are engaging in bigot speak, "I don't trust ANY successful pol. from Chicago," and you don't seem to even realize it. It's akin to saying that you don't trust ANY soldier in Iraq because of what a few did at a prison.

It's not at all the same thing. Honest pols from Chicago don't become successful unless they have great name recognition, such as Ernie Banks or Michael Jordan or Mike Ditka would have if they got into politics. They have to become corrupt and bribe people and fix tickets and lie, because others will, and beat them. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. I remember a famous quote, but I don't remember who made it. It happened right after the 1960 election, when the Reps demanded a recount because there was an impossibly big Dem. margin in the votes from Chicago. The ballots had been destroyed, so there was no recount. That's when somebody said: "Once an election is stolen in Chicago, it stays stolen." Dishonesty among Chicago pols is pretty much accepted.

On the other hand, I know that there were only a few soldiers involved in the scanfal at Abu Ghraib (Sp?) and almost everyone else in the military acted with valor and honor. I did say "almost" you understand. There are a few bad apples everywhere, and the military deals with them, as it did with these.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Box, Box.

If I point out that you are being obtuse, linear, and mulish, will you take it as a kindly critique?

because I know your heart's in the right place-- sitting on top of your liver-- all I can do is shake my head and laugh when you start these things anymore.

But jeeezuz keerist, you sound like a freaking moron!


Word.
With word sauce.

I didn't start anything, and personal insults are a concession of an argument.