I think most women are basically sluts.

[JMohegan]

I do want to have sex about 90 percent of the time, but I consider myself a horny chronic masturbator, not a slut. I'm very picky.

I'd say that the demographic who is sad that their wife won't want to fuck someone else right in front of them or even for a weekend without them is much much larger and wider than you'd give thought.

I don't think it's just some new generational thing either. I think it's rendered unacceptable by the very notion that "no one really wants it"

I talk on a daily basis DAILY to someone who wants it or even has done it. And I'm most fortunate in my choice of mates. Two are thrilled that I'm fucking the third and the third is completely unfazed by the ways in which I fuck them.

Someone who describes herself as "very picky" and fucks three guys is not indiscriminately promiscuous.

As for the cuckold fetish - yes, of course there are guys into that sort of thing, but I had the impression that a certain selectivity on the wife's part was usually part of the whole idea. Is that not the case?

A very small minority of guys I've spoken to expressed interest in the idea of a committed partner wiling to fuck anything with a dick - and only handful of these were post-AIDS. All were either fans of the free love hippie archetype, or heavy into humiliation.

 

[ecstaticsub]

Someone who describes herself as "very picky" and fucks three guys is not indiscriminately promiscuous.

As for the cuckold fetish - yes, of course there are guys into that sort of thing, but I had the impression that a certain selectivity on the wife's part was usually part of the whole idea. Is that not the case?

A very small minority of guys I've spoken to expressed interest in the idea of a committed partner wiling to fuck anything with a dick - and only handful of these were post-AIDS. All were either fans of the free love hippie archetype, or heavy into humiliation.

Visit a wifesharing website sometime. Most of it is not really swinging or cuckolding. It is men who simply want to watch their wife have sex with one or more other men.

From what I have seen is that many men who share have a 3x and you're out rule. They allow their wife to have sex with the same man just three times and then they have to find a new partner. The opinion being that after 3 times the woman may start to form emotional ties.

I would say most of the women are selective but sometimes they prefer for their husbands to just find someone and put on a one-night show for their husbands.

Wifesharing comes in many flavors but is more common than you may think. (it is more common than I ever imagined)

 

[JMohegan]

Visit a wifesharing website sometime. Most of it is not really swinging or cuckolding. It is men who simply want to watch their wife have sex with one or more other men.

From what I have seen is that many men who share have a 3x and you're out rule. They allow their wife to have sex with the same man just three times and then they have to find a new partner. The opinion being that after 3 times the woman may start to form emotional ties.

I would say most of the women are selective but sometimes they prefer for their husbands to just find someone and put on a one-night show for their husbands.

Wifesharing comes in many flavors but is more common than you may think. (it is more common than I ever imagined)

It's a wild and crazy world out there, no doubt!

 

[00Syd]

Almost anything you can think of will be more common than you imagined.

Even if its something totally bat-fuck weird, and you think there can't be more than a handful of people into it, there will usually be a whole little community. Its always, always more common than you imagined.

I mean. Whats with that weird-ass BDSM stuff? Tons of people into that. I know, totally wild, right?

 

[minx1]

Can't say that I've ever heard slut used as a compliment, or even neutral term, when applied to another person. I have only heard it used as an insult, meaning either: female who fucks indiscriminately, or: female who goes after other females' males.

Guys may fuck sluts, but most men I know do not consider indiscriminate promiscuity to be a positive trait when it comes to selecting a committed partner or spouse.

An exception to the above, of course, is the name calling that some appreciate within a private relationship. Not literally accurate, but making the addressee feel naughty and therefore hot.

This would be me.

I enjoy being a ''slut'' with a partner or my PYL's slut, but actually am I slutty? Well if slutty could be described in terms of specific acts, perhaps...but if the term slut is applied in the most commonly used way, then probably not. And definitely not if it applies to having sex indiscriminately.

I am and always have been a rather monogomous creature. And although I will playfully flirt with men, as soon as I think there is a danger of it being taken seriously or too far; I tend to withdraw. Often withdrawing to the point that they might consider me ''frigid'' lol

In a way I guess I like the extremes and I enjoy the idea of being slutty for the man I am serving... but only for him. Equally I enjoy being ''unobtainable'' to other men. Perhaps i am just a tease lol

As for being called good girl, little one or anything of that nature by anone else..well it depends upon the senario and the relationship I have with the person. Depending on who its is ''good girl'' can make me feel uncomfortable and can feel inappropriate. Othertimes it can make me smile as I like being told I have done well and it serves as a reminder of this aspect of my life....which for the most part I keep private.

An example of this would be the bloke at work who calls me little one. It makes me laugh. It came about through something completely removed from bdsm and my submissiveness and he wouldnt 'see a connection in a month of sundays, but I always secretly smile when he calls it me.

 

[DVS]

I wish I could meet up with a slut or two. In my book, the word "slut" is a good thing. But, I don't think all women are sluts, because I know some who are pretty uptight about sex.

Maybe I'm just not their type?

 

[gloriann]

I like you. Do I work with you?

Lol, I doubt we work together, but awesome, I like you too!

 

[rida]

Hubby is one of the guys Ecstaticsub mentioned with a wife-sharing fetish. He is no cuckhold and has no humiliations desires. He is actually the Dom in our marriage and he also does not feel threatened by me getting emotionally attached so the number of encounter with the same guy is not capped.

It took me a while before I could be talked into giving the whole idea a try: I had no problem if I met a guy and things just happened but I was not going to put an ad or reply to an ad specifically for sex (my own personal hang ups with the whole "emotions before sex" thing ). Eventually I gave in and gave it a try and ... here I am

I am very picky on the partners but, at the same time, I also discovered that once you get to talk with me, I end up being very easy hence my identifying with the label of "slut" (without any negative connotation in my mind).

What I do is that I'm very picky in the selection stage, and very very few make it to a coffee/drinks/dinner date. I have a "no sex on the first meet" rule that I state upfront, but if the conversation moves to talking about a next meet, if the man has enough confidence to push a bit, he gets me that first night (Hubby actually loves when that happens so, as his submissive, I don't oppose what makes him happy).

Most vanilla men thou, don't see beyond the self-confident liberated woman and as such are afraid to be seen as pushy and to be rejected, so they do not try their luck.

Sometimes Hubby likes to do the picking and arrangements, but I am always asked my opinion throughout the process and have the last say on what happens during the meet/date.

I don't know how common it is, but gauging from the popularity of "Couple Clubs" (Swapping) and "Happening Clubs" (swapping and more) as almost legitimate adult entertainment here, it is probably not that uncommon.
But it is true that it cannot really be compared with the US.

(Cultural comment & huge generalizations ahead: almost all westerner men coming here have this huge desire to hook up with a local babe - CraigList is flooded with traveling businessman with yellow fever-, and many many local women want to marry a foreigner and they have no problem if he is already married, so sex floods very easy at first. But, do you see the disconnect? Westerners think that because the sex came easy they have a "slut" - Western definition- hence someone for easy sex and no commitment; the women coming from a totally different mental model does not think about herself a such ... and problems ensue.
A corollary is that many a successful married westerners arrives and within a couple years divorce his sexually up-tight wife for the Japanese slutty counterpart to find himself with a Gold Digger.)

 

[Scotsman69]

A fascinating insight into an aspect of Japanese culture ... and yourself rida. Thank you for that.

 

[JMohegan]

(Cultural comment & huge generalizations ahead: almost all westerner men coming here have this huge desire to hook up with a local babe - CraigList is flooded with traveling businessman with yellow fever-, and many many local women want to marry a foreigner and they have no problem if he is already married, so sex floods very easy at first. But, do you see the disconnect? Westerners think that because the sex came easy they have a "slut" - Western definition- hence someone for easy sex and no commitment; the women coming from a totally different mental model does not think about herself a such ... and problems ensue.
A corollary is that many a successful married westerners arrives and within a couple years divorce his sexually up-tight wife for the Japanese slutty counterpart to find himself with a Gold Digger.)

Why do so many Japanese women want to marry foreign men?

And with regard to the part in bold - are you saying they don't mind polygamy, or are you saying they don't consider it dishonorable to fuck a cheating spouse with intent to disrupt the marriage?

 

[HisSexyPet]

Men are at the peak of sexual desires in their 20's, women in their 40's.

That's why when these two meet in bed all hell breaks loose.

Most definately!!!

 

[Netzach]

Someone who describes herself as "very picky" and fucks three guys is not indiscriminately promiscuous.

As for the cuckold fetish - yes, of course there are guys into that sort of thing, but I had the impression that a certain selectivity on the wife's part was usually part of the whole idea. Is that not the case?

A very small minority of guys I've spoken to expressed interest in the idea of a committed partner wiling to fuck anything with a dick - and only handful of these were post-AIDS. All were either fans of the free love hippie archetype, or heavy into humiliation.

My point isn't am I or am I not a slut, my point is that "no one wants that" is a pretty damning and confusing albatross for those of us who do.

 

[Netzach]

Almost anything you can think of will be more common than you imagined.

Even if its something totally bat-fuck weird, and you think there can't be more than a handful of people into it, there will usually be a whole little community. Its always, always more common than you imagined.

I mean. Whats with that weird-ass BDSM stuff? Tons of people into that. I know, totally wild, right?

Dude, balloons.

Sneezing and coughing.

If you can see it as a market segment in phone sex, and make money off it, it exists. I am the Decartes of sex when it comes to that.

 

[Netzach]

Hubby is one of the guys Ecstaticsub mentioned with a wife-sharing fetish. He is no cuckhold and has no humiliations desires. He is actually the Dom in our marriage and he also does not feel threatened by me getting emotionally attached so the number of encounter with the same guy is not capped.

It took me a while before I could be talked into giving the whole idea a try: I had no problem if I met a guy and things just happened but I was not going to put an ad or reply to an ad specifically for sex (my own personal hang ups with the whole "emotions before sex" thing ). Eventually I gave in and gave it a try and ... here I am

I am very picky on the partners but, at the same time, I also discovered that once you get to talk with me, I end up being very easy hence my identifying with the label of "slut" (without any negative connotation in my mind).

What I do is that I'm very picky in the selection stage, and very very few make it to a coffee/drinks/dinner date. I have a "no sex on the first meet" rule that I state upfront, but if the conversation moves to talking about a next meet, if the man has enough confidence to push a bit, he gets me that first night (Hubby actually loves when that happens so, as his submissive, I don't oppose what makes him happy).

Most vanilla men thou, don't see beyond the self-confident liberated woman and as such are afraid to be seen as pushy and to be rejected, so they do not try their luck.

Sometimes Hubby likes to do the picking and arrangements, but I am always asked my opinion throughout the process and have the last say on what happens during the meet/date.

I don't know how common it is, but gauging from the popularity of "Couple Clubs" (Swapping) and "Happening Clubs" (swapping and more) as almost legitimate adult entertainment here, it is probably not that uncommon.
But it is true that it cannot really be compared with the US.

(Cultural comment & huge generalizations ahead: almost all westerner men coming here have this huge desire to hook up with a local babe - CraigList is flooded with traveling businessman with yellow fever-, and many many local women want to marry a foreigner and they have no problem if he is already married, so sex floods very easy at first. But, do you see the disconnect? Westerners think that because the sex came easy they have a "slut" - Western definition- hence someone for easy sex and no commitment; the women coming from a totally different mental model does not think about herself a such ... and problems ensue.
A corollary is that many a successful married westerners arrives and within a couple years divorce his sexually up-tight wife for the Japanese slutty counterpart to find himself with a Gold Digger.)

This is so interesting. Do you think that Western fantasies about Japanese femininity being shattered are a huge part of the mismatch?

 

[Netzach]

I mean on paper NO ONE wants a femme bisexual gender confused mate who has a 67 yo boyfriend on weekends.

 

[StrayKat]

I mean on paper NO ONE wants a femme bisexual gender confused mate who has a 67 yo boyfriend on weekends.

Sounds very hot to me....

 

[JMohegan]

My point isn't am I or am I not a slut, my point is that "no one wants that" is a pretty damning and confusing albatross for those of us who do.

Who said "no one wants that?"

 

[Homburg]

Almost anything you can think of will be more common than you imagined.

Even if its something totally bat-fuck weird, and you think there can't be more than a handful of people into it, there will usually be a whole little community. Its always, always more common than you imagined.

I mean. Whats with that weird-ass BDSM stuff? Tons of people into that. I know, totally wild, right?

Rule 34.

--

Dude, balloons.

Sneezing and coughing.

If you can see it as a market segment in phone sex, and make money off it, it exists. I am the Decartes of sex when it comes to that.

I actually know a guy that runs (or at least ran) a balloon site. He also did sneezing vids. Crazy stuff. We were trying to get together and do some balloon/sneezing and rope shoots (not that I'm into balloons or sneezing, but, hey, porn shoot), but he lives too far away for me to do it easily.

It was a bit eye-opening to hit his site and this "People tug it to this. Wow."

 

[ownedsubgal]

My point isn't am I or am I not a slut, my point is that "no one wants that" is a pretty damning and confusing albatross for those of us who do.

thanks Netz.

between having both the doormat label and the slut label, statistics say that i should have died alone and miserable (and either of AIDS or some serial killer's vic) years ago. instead i found acceptance, love, control and protection with a pretty hot and successful Master...go me! stats can fly a kite i guess.

 

[miaction69]

i'm a slut - but only with a lover - a real one.

 

[Homburg]

thanks Netz.

between having both the doormat label and the slut label, statistics say that i should have died alone and miserable (and either of AIDS or some serial killer's vic) years ago. instead i found acceptance, love, control and protection with a pretty hot and successful Master...go me! stats can fly a kite i guess.

*puts on the devil's advocate hat*

The same sort of logic can be applied to the brat label too.

 

[StrayKat]

Hubby is one of the guys Ecstaticsub mentioned with a wife-sharing fetish. He is no cuckhold and has no humiliations desires. He is actually the Dom in our marriage and he also does not feel threatened by me getting emotionally attached so the number of encounter with the same guy is not capped.

It took me a while before I could be talked into giving the whole idea a try: I had no problem if I met a guy and things just happened but I was not going to put an ad or reply to an ad specifically for sex (my own personal hang ups with the whole "emotions before sex" thing ). Eventually I gave in and gave it a try and ... here I am

I am very picky on the partners but, at the same time, I also discovered that once you get to talk with me, I end up being very easy hence my identifying with the label of "slut" (without any negative connotation in my mind).

What I do is that I'm very picky in the selection stage, and very very few make it to a coffee/drinks/dinner date. I have a "no sex on the first meet" rule that I state upfront, but if the conversation moves to talking about a next meet, if the man has enough confidence to push a bit, he gets me that first night (Hubby actually loves when that happens so, as his submissive, I don't oppose what makes him happy).

Thank you for sharing.

I myself have quite alike situation, biggest difference is that my marriage is not D/s relationship. I dont tend to get very emotionally attached either. I see those men (and sometimes women) more as living sex toys, although I am very picky and can grow quite fond of them.

We started as swingers but that was not really "it", the whole "scene" was too impersonal. We had hard time finding a couple that would suit us both as well. Besides we are really not into one night stand kind of thing.

I dont think my husband has exactly wife-sharing fetish. We accept women as sexual partners as well, me being bisexual doesnt mean I always want to participate... sometimes I find my own pleasure in just watching and directing.
Mostly its men though, and several times it was quite a relationship that lasted much longer than 3 times. I think we could both be happy in MMF relationship but we havent found suitable person yet.

I never thought such behavior so rare to be honest, I met plenty of couples "wired" in similar way.

 

[Keroin]

It's a wild and crazy world out there, no doubt!

There are people who find dinoflagellates erotic. Crazy indeed!

 

[JMohegan]

There are people who find dinoflagellates erotic. Crazy indeed!

HAHA! So true!

Better not mention it, though. The forum control freaks will start bitchin' that beastiality's not BDSM.

 

[StrayKat]

I wish I could meet up with a slut or two. In my book, the word "slut" is a good thing. But, I don't think all women are sluts, because I know some who are pretty uptight about sex.

Maybe I'm just not their type?

Most "uptight" women I know are the worst "sluts" when they let loose. So yeah