Yay, I have Zap Trolls :D

[manyeyedhydra]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

 

[TxRad]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

How about Anonymous?

 

[lance gt]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

Let me guess, in Loving Wives? Must have come out on the wrong day. Cuckold days are Monday -Thursday, Torch the Bitch is Friday - Sunday. Luck of the draw I guess. Doesn't matter really, there's trolls on both sides, so expect a lash from either side. As for names, I have my own pet names for them, but I can't print them on the page, just too nasty.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

Sounds like you have six votes. Two of them of "2" and four of them of "1" although it could be a three and five ones.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

How 'bout Jimmie... or maybe James... Yeah, JamesB... hmmm. that starting to sound almost like a REAL troll's name...

 

[TE999]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

Just call them PITA's...they won't mind.

 

[driphoney]

Fresh story out today. Not even out long enough for the view count to update and already it has a fantastic score of 1.33.

It can only mean one thing, Zap trolls!

How cute and adorable. I've always wanted some of my own. I should name them, but what?

Okay, so what's with the trolls? And what's with your commenters? I read it and thought it was great. Picky, picky readers.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Okay, so what's with the trolls? And what's with your commenters? I read it and thought it was great. Picky, picky readers.

They're not really picky. Some of them may not have even read the story. Trolls sometimes vote one-bombs on a story just because they don't like the category or because they dislike the author. MEH was one of the prize winners in the most recent theme contest, and that is enough to piss off some trolls. It's a fact of life here.

 

[manyeyedhydra]

Okay, so what's with the trolls? And what's with your commenters? I read it and thought it was great. Picky, picky readers.

Hehe. I liked the one that moaned it wasn't evil enough. Its kind of like a challenge... to get really nasty

 

[sr71plt]

So, how is your rating doing at the end of day two?

 

[manyeyedhydra]

So, how is your rating doing at the end of day two?

Better than 1.33

Looks like my little pets ran foul of the hoover overnight. I'm guessing they have 'previous' on this

 

[driphoney]

Much better than 1.33 from the looks of it. Glad to see it. You deserve it.

 

[Lalochezia]

Okay, so what's with the trolls? And what's with your commenters? I read it and thought it was great. Picky, picky readers.

Hey, I commented on that story. From poking around the forum it seems like people are always wanting more feedback, so I've made it a new rule to always leave some. I hope I didn't just come across as picky, but I don't see the benefit in a comment that says nothing but, "OMG I can't stop coming to your story!" Although a boost to the writer's ego (and deservedly so in this case, I always enjoy manyeyedhydra's stories) it does nothing to highlight the good or bad points of the story and won't give them any idea what people like/dislike in particular. Same goes for comments that are nothing but hate.

Of course, it's possible that most writers are really only looking for praise in their feedback. If I find this to be true I shall have to drop my new rule, and go back to never saying anything. In that case a vote is good enough.


Edit: For the sake of not confusing anyone reading this thread who hasn't seen the comments, I'll copy and paste mine here.

"Let me start off by saying that I love your writing. It flows well, gets the point across, and the sex is fantastic. It always is.

That said, there are a few points I would have changed with this story if it was up to me. First and foremost, I would have given a longer opening. I would have liked to read about the three way with the hooker instead of reading it as a flashback. It also would have been more of a shock when Rich died if he was a bit more developed. More of an intro could have also given you more of an opportunity to build up the strange rumors surrounding this particular crime lord. I think it could have added a lurking, brooding element to the horror. And, quite frankly, it would have made a little more sense when the succubi attacked. Although the paintings in the entry way were plenty of warning, especially having read your writing before, I think the surprise of a giant man-eating vagina may have caught some readers off guard.

So, on to my second point. It's a minor one. I think the line, "Would you like to fuck one of them? Right now?" could have been simply, ""Would you like to fuck one of them?" Then maybe Rich could have replied in a shocked manner, "Right now?" It gives the feel that Koontz simply expects the sex to be right now without having to say it. It implies that this sort of behavior is more in the norm for him. Or, at least, that he wants it to appear that way. This point is really more nit picky though, so don't mind it.

So, all in all, my major problem was that I wanted more story. And, on the whole, that's a pretty good problem to have. I love your writing and I think this is a fantastic start if you had planned on making it a series. (Which I hope you do)

I hope I wasn't too critical. I've just been editing my own stuff recently so I'm stuck on problem finding mode. I voted you a five because what was there was awesome even if I wanted a little more.

Thanks for writing!

-Lalochezia"

 

[driphoney]

I happened to have read a few stories over the last couple of days (great work-avoidance activity) and happened to see an unusually large number of harsh or critical comments all directed a amateur writers willing to put their hobby out there for others to read for free. So, by the time I got to Manyeyedhydra's very well written piece (that many of us could only hope to write as well as) I was definitely in eye-rolling mode.


This is just me. But now that I've figured out the weight comments can have on story draw because the comments go here: Feedback Portal and act as a sort of advertisement, I'm, personally, very careful what I say on a story's public comment section. I never lie, ever, but if I think it's bad, I just back away without comment. If I feel I have some advice that might prove beneficial to a writer (rarely, in spite of my recent frequent blathering over on the SDC,) then I send the writer a private feedback. I know, as a very timid writer who bites her nails and gets a stomach ache when she submits, just how personal and possibly nerve-wracking the whole process can be for some writers. It's not the case with all writers. Oh, and I don't know how other writers feel, but for me, private feedback is just as meaningful as public. I've actually gotten far more private than public. I don't know if that is common.

That's just me and the thinking behind my comment, and not anyone else here. Just me. Most writers do want honest feedback that can help them improve as a writer, and as you see, Manyeyed made no comment about the feedback (just the troll votes) other than to say it serves as a challenge to make the next story better.

I didn't see any posted stories, but you mentioned currently doing edits, so if you're about to submit, I wish you all the best. If you do post under an alt, I would love to read your stories if you'd be willing to pm me your other name. (And yes, I've been known to keep a secret or two! )

 

[Darkniciad]

I'm with DH in the way I comment. I might put a little quibble in a PC, but only if it's outweighed by what I liked about the story. If there are a lot of things that stuck out at me, I'm far more likely to send an email than to leave that on the public forum. I think of the PC board as a positive advertisement venue for the most part.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hey, I commented on that story. From poking around the forum it seems like people are always wanting more feedback, so I've made it a new rule to always leave some. I hope I didn't just come across as picky, but I don't see the benefit in a comment that says nothing but, "OMG I can't stop coming to your story!" Although a boost to the writer's ego (and deservedly so in this case, I always enjoy manyeyedhydra's stories) it does nothing to highlight the good or bad points of the story and won't give them any idea what people like/dislike in particular. Same goes for comments that are nothing but hate.

Of course, it's possible that most writers are really only looking for praise in their feedback. If I find this to be true I shall have to drop my new rule, and go back to never saying anything. In that case a vote is good enough.


Edit: For the sake of not confusing anyone reading this thread who hasn't seen the comments, I'll copy and paste mine here.

"Let me start off by saying that I love your writing. It flows well, gets the point across, and the sex is fantastic. It always is.

That said, there are a few points I would have changed with this story if it was up to me. First and foremost, I would have given a longer opening. I would have liked to read about the three way with the hooker instead of reading it as a flashback. It also would have been more of a shock when Rich died if he was a bit more developed. More of an intro could have also given you more of an opportunity to build up the strange rumors surrounding this particular crime lord. I think it could have added a lurking, brooding element to the horror. And, quite frankly, it would have made a little more sense when the succubi attacked. Although the paintings in the entry way were plenty of warning, especially having read your writing before, I think the surprise of a giant man-eating vagina may have caught some readers off guard.

So, on to my second point. It's a minor one. I think the line, "Would you like to fuck one of them? Right now?" could have been simply, ""Would you like to fuck one of them?" Then maybe Rich could have replied in a shocked manner, "Right now?" It gives the feel that Koontz simply expects the sex to be right now without having to say it. It implies that this sort of behavior is more in the norm for him. Or, at least, that he wants it to appear that way. This point is really more nit picky though, so don't mind it.

So, all in all, my major problem was that I wanted more story. And, on the whole, that's a pretty good problem to have. I love your writing and I think this is a fantastic start if you had planned on making it a series. (Which I hope you do)

I hope I wasn't too critical. I've just been editing my own stuff recently so I'm stuck on problem finding mode. I voted you a five because what was there was awesome even if I wanted a little more.

Thanks for writing!

-Lalochezia"

I agree with what you say about only leaving PC if you actually say something of value. Just saying "That was good" or "that sucked" does nobody any good. However, If I want to leave a comment as extensive as the one you did, I will usually put it in a PM or email, if I can.

 

[sr71plt]

The few times I ran up against remotely like this (not this threatening, of course), all I did was mention to the ones I was trying to get moving that I was a journalist (which I was at the time) and that this was going to make a great story in the local newspaper. They always got off the dime at that point.

 

[Lalochezia]

I happened to have read a few stories over the last couple of days (great work-avoidance activity) and happened to see an unusually large number of harsh or critical comments all directed a amateur writers willing to put their hobby out there for others to read for free. So, by the time I got to Manyeyedhydra's very well written piece (that many of us could only hope to write as well as) I was definitely in eye-rolling mode.


This is just me. But now that I've figured out the weight comments can have on story draw because the comments go here: Feedback Portal and act as a sort of advertisement, I'm, personally, very careful what I say on a story's public comment section. I never lie, ever, but if I think it's bad, I just back away without comment. If I feel I have some advice that might prove beneficial to a writer (rarely, in spite of my recent frequent blathering over on the SDC,) then I send the writer a private feedback. I know, as a very timid writer who bites her nails and gets a stomach ache when she submits, just how personal and possibly nerve-wracking the whole process can be for some writers. It's not the case with all writers. Oh, and I don't know how other writers feel, but for me, private feedback is just as meaningful as public. I've actually gotten far more private than public. I don't know if that is common.

That's just me and the thinking behind my comment, and not anyone else here. Just me. Most writers do want honest feedback that can help them improve as a writer, and as you see, Manyeyed made no comment about the feedback (just the troll votes) other than to say it serves as a challenge to make the next story better.

I didn't see any posted stories, but you mentioned currently doing edits, so if you're about to submit, I wish you all the best. If you do post under an alt, I would love to read your stories if you'd be willing to pm me your other name. (And yes, I've been known to keep a secret or two! )

I see. I was unaware of the feedback portal. If manyeyedhydra would like to delete my comment, please do. I was unaware that what I said was a bit of a faux pas. My feedback will be private in the future.

I don't have an alt. (Alternate account, I assume.) Not much use for one seeing how long I've been around. I intend to post on this name. I have about eleven thousand words so far with a good many more scenes to write. And I'm never happy with what I've done. I'll spend my life editing, but I'll pm you when I post it if you would like. And if I remember.

 

[Darkniciad]

I wouldn't say it's a faux pas, just different thoughts on the PC board. Even a critical opinion, stated without malice, is a hundred times better than most of the drek and vitriol that ends up on the PC boards. I'm sure that you've seen it. Constructive is always good, even when it stings a bit sometimes

The feedback portal only has a few entries, and updates fairly regularly, so comments only appear there for a short period of time. Deleting the comment wouldn't make much difference with regards to that, and I have a sneakin' suspicion that MEH wouldn't remotely consider it anyhow.

In those few minutes, it can be a deal-maker or a deal-breaker. I know that I blink there regularly, and it often encourages me to open a story. I'm sure that I'm far from the only one. Your comment would have probably encouraged me to open the story, rather than discourage me.

It's just something else to think about when leaving feedback, if you have a lot of criticism to point out. Everybody wants feedback, and everybody loves PCs, so don't let it discourage you from commenting in whatever way is most comfortable for you.

I see. I was unaware of the feedback portal. If manyeyedhydra would like to delete my comment, please do. I was unaware that what I said was a bit of a faux pas. My feedback will be private in the future.

I don't have an alt. (Alternate account, I assume.) Not much use for one seeing how long I've been around. I intend to post on this name. I have about eleven thousand words so far with a good many more scenes to write. And I'm never happy with what I've done. I'll spend my life editing, but I'll pm you when I post it if you would like. And if I remember.

 

[Lalochezia]

I wouldn't say it's a faux pas, just different thoughts on the PC board. Even a critical opinion, stated without malice, is a hundred times better than most of the drek and vitriol that ends up on the PC boards. I'm sure that you've seen it. Constructive is always good, even when it stings a bit sometimes

The feedback portal only has a few entries, and updates fairly regularly, so comments only appear there for a short period of time. Deleting the comment wouldn't make much difference with regards to that, and I have a sneakin' suspicion that MEH wouldn't remotely consider it anyhow.

In those few minutes, it can be a deal-maker or a deal-breaker. I know that I blink there regularly, and it often encourages me to open a story. I'm sure that I'm far from the only one. Your comment would have probably encouraged me to open the story, rather than discourage me.

It's just something else to think about when leaving feedback, if you have a lot of criticism to point out. Everybody wants feedback, and everybody loves PCs, so don't let it discourage you from commenting in whatever way is most comfortable for you.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the advice.

And I assume PC board is "public comment board." Ha! I'm getting the lingo.

 

[manyeyedhydra]

I don't mind constructive criticism. I'm always very happy for people to take time to offer suggestions. I wouldn't want anyone feeling discouraged from doing that. These are good things in my opinion.

I was making fun of the random crazy, such as the pointless zap votes that get swept in a day or so anyway.

 

[BarondeSade]

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