AP sources: Russian subs patrolling off East Coast

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AP sources: Russian subs patrolling off East Coast


Barack Obama By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press Writer – Tue Aug 4, 8:47 pm ET


WASHINGTON – Two nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines have been patrolling in international waters off the East Coast for several days, in activity reminiscent of the Cold War, defense officials said Tuesday.

U.S. Northern Command would not comment on the Russian submarines' movement. But in a prepared statement, Northern Command spokesman Michael Kucharek acknowledged the patrols and said the U.S. has been monitoring the two submarines.

Two senior U.S. officials, however, said the submarines had been patrolling several hundred miles off the coast and so far had done nothing to provoke U.S. military concerns. The officials provided details on condition of anonymity in order to discuss intelligence reports.

While the incident raises eyebrows, it did not trigger the more intense reaction by the U.S. military that Russia prompted when two of its bombers buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific in February 2008. U.S. fighter planes intercepted the two Russian fighters, including one that flew directly over the USS Nimitz twice at an altitude of about 2,000 feet.

The event did not escalate beyond that, but it signaled a more aggressive military agenda by Moscow.

The latest incident, which was first reported by The New York Times, comes amid increased Russian military activity in the region, and as the Obama administration works to thaw tense relations with Moscow over plans for a missile defense system in Central Europe.

Just last week a senior Pentagon official said the administration is looking at options for the plan, which would install 10 interceptors in Poland and a radar system in the Czech Republic. Assistant Secretary of Defense Alexander Vershbow told Congress members that the Obama administration is looking at various configurations as part of its review of missile defense plans.

Russia, meanwhile, conducted naval exercises with Venezuela last year in the Caribbean and sent one of its warships through the Panama Canal for the first time since World War II. The exercises with Venezuela were the first deployment of Russian ships to the Western Hemisphere since the Cold War.

Officials said they became aware of the most recent submarine activity off the East Coast early on through intelligence sources and were not notified by Moscow in advance of the patrols. They said the submarines have not crossed into U.S. waters, which extend 12 miles out into the ocean.

The statement issued by Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command said, "We have been monitoring them during transit and recognize the right of all nations to exercise freedom of navigation in international waters according to international law."

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Our enemies are laughing at us

Knowing Soetoro will do nothing and is weak!
 
Hmmm, you know I can't figure out why this is news, I guess Paris Hilton has been quiet lately. :rolleyes:

I mean seriously, two nuclear attack submarines patrolling hundreds of miles away from the east coast is nothing. During the cold war russia I am sure had nuclear missile submarines sitting within strike distance of the east coast on a fairly regular basis, the US did the same thing. :eek:

This isn't new, this isn't news, and it's not something to worry about. What this is is somebody int eh white house going let's get the people a little scared so we can do something else without drawing attention. :rolleyes:
 
Thats the point

isnt it?

during teh COLD WAR!

wasnt THAT supposed to be over?

didnt ClitBITCH and Soetoro hit the RESET button?

werent we supposed to best buds now?

why are they here, what will the US do?

WE KNOW WHY,

and

WE KNOW WE WONT DO SHIT

CAUSE SOETORO IS AN APPEASER

hence my thread

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=666826
 
You remember busybody, it was a faulty button that said over-charge...





The Ruskies are looking for their re-fund...
 
Well, the ocean is free, and even though some countries do have a limit, plus, I'm pretty sure "we" know about them, it's the small things, that "we" have to worry about.
 
Oh brother..

"The Russians are coming!" :rolleyes:

Funny thing about international waters, anyone can be floating around out there, above or below the surface.

Make sure you give us a breathless update when you find out they were several hundred miles off the coast of California too.
 
Oh brother..

"The Russians are coming!" :rolleyes:

Funny thing about international waters, anyone can be floating around out there, above or below the surface.

Make sure you give us a breathless update when you find out they were several hundred miles off the coast of California too.

*points and laughs*
 
Oh brother..

"The Russians are coming!" :rolleyes:

Funny thing about international waters, anyone can be floating around out there, above or below the surface.

Make sure you give us a breathless update when you find out they were several hundred miles off the coast of California too.

See, you are so dumb you dont get it

In foreign affairs, SYMBOLISM is sometimes more important than actions

Thats why the dummy Soetoro Administration and its menstruating Sec of State, ClitBITCH went to Russia with a red (fucked up) re-set button, and the Russians said

You want RE-SET? WE WILL RE-SET TO THE COLD WAR ERA!

The symbolism is

"YOU ARE WEAK, WE DONT RESPECT YOU!"
 
Our enemies are laughing at us

Knowing Soetoro will do nothing and is weak!

The subs are in international waters. They have every right to be there. They are attack subs as opposed to missile subs which means they are a much greater threat to other submarines than American cities although they obviously have offensive capabilities against inland targets as well. There are only two of them. Since it is clear we know they are there it is a virtual certainty that we have our own submarines and/or surface ships shadowing their every move.

What else would you have Obama do?
 
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The subs are in international waters. They have every right to be there. They are attack subs as opposed to missile subs which means they are a much greater threat to other submarines than American cities although they obviously have offensive capabilities against inland targets as well. There are only two of them. Since it is clear we know they are there it is a virtual certainty that we have our own submarines and/or surface ships shadowing their every move.

What else would you have Obama do?

yes of course

BUT

I wrote this earlier, I repeat



In foreign affairs, SYMBOLISM is sometimes more important than actions

Thats why the dummy Soetoro Administration and its menstruating Sec of State, ClitBITCH went to Russia with a red (fucked up) re-set button, and the Russians said

You want RE-SET? WE WILL RE-SET TO THE COLD WAR ERA!

The symbolism is

"YOU ARE WEAK, WE DONT RESPECT YOU!"
 
The subs are in international waters. They have every right to be there. They are attack subs as opposed to missile subs which means they are a much greater threat to other submarines than American cities although they obviously have offensive capabilities against inland targets as well. There are only two of them. Since it is clear we know they are there it is a virtual certainty that we have our own submarines and/or surface ships shadowing their every move.

What else would you have Obama do?

Step down and let Rudy take over with Palin as the veep.
 
yes of course

BUT

I wrote this earlier, I repeat



In foreign affairs, SYMBOLISM is sometimes more important than actions

Thats why the dummy Soetoro Administration and its menstruating Sec of State, ClitBITCH went to Russia with a red (fucked up) re-set button, and the Russians said

You want RE-SET? WE WILL RE-SET TO THE COLD WAR ERA!

The symbolism is

"YOU ARE WEAK, WE DONT RESPECT YOU!"

I agree that symbolism has significance in the realm of foreign affairs. But it's all relative.

Two Russian subs floating around in open waters of the Atlantic not attached to some larger military exercise does not represent a return to a bellicose Cold War posturing. Their presence does not represent an escalation of the diplomatic sniping the US and Russia has occasionally engaged in since the end of the Cold War. The presence of the subs is not a significant event.

This stands in marked contrast to the recent missile tests, inflammatory rhetoric and capture and diplomatic manipulation of two American female journalists by North Korea. That symbolism was a dramatic change in the status quo and thus has far more significance.
 
Im NOT worried by what a GNAT does

Im worried by what a BEAR does

I'm more worried about our responding appropriately to the actions of both. Closely monitoring the movements of the Russian subs is appropriate. Nothing more is currently called for.

Meanwhile, one of the biggest unanswered questions is what we did or did not give up to secure the release of the two women journalists. I hope it was nothing more than our obsolete Jupiter missiles in Turkey, if you catch my drift.
 
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