Karen Kraft Is a Male!!

[MonkeyFootball]

When people stop creating threads saying that I am not a woman, I will stop creating thread saying that Obama is not an American.

When dealing with ill-behaved children, reason needs to be backed up with something. They need to learn that it is just as boring for me to waste my time here with their bullshit about me as it is to fill the General Board with Birther stuff.

You want less Birther stuff, stop the "Karen isn't a girl" threads. (not you personally -- meaning "one")

I have stamina, as you know, and that is essential for behavior modification.

You're smart; you understand how "explaining" doesn't work. They have to feel it. They HATE the Birther stuff. If they want not to see it anymore, they have to suppress their urge to start up the "Karen's a guy" crap.

Stimulus - Response.

It even works for the dummies here. You'll see.

As I said earlier, I was OUT of the politics deal for a few days and only got back into it since people wanted to strike up the band with some more "Karen" threads. They bought their ticket; now they get to play the game.

They'll learn.

If you were dealing with children you would be correct. But here the “children” have had over 21 + years to become what they are and the ACLU will not stand for the type of “retraining” it would require to change them.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Why do you care so much?

It's a long story.

Cliff Notes:

Twin
Half gone
Pretty one
Smart one
Tomboy
Ambivalence / anger / jealousy / guilt at first three
Broken mirror image

 

[naughtycakes]

It's a long story.

Cliff Notes:

Twin
Half gone
Pretty one
Smart one
Tomboy
Ambivalence / anger / jealousy / guilt at first three
Broken mirror image

Those are like the abridged Cliff Notes.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

When people stop creating threads saying that I am not a woman, I will stop creating thread saying that Obama is not an American.

When dealing with ill-behaved children, reason needs to be backed up with something. They need to learn that it is just as boring for me to waste my time here with their bullshit about me as it is to fill the General Board with Birther stuff.

You want less Birther stuff, stop the "Karen isn't a girl" threads. (not you personally -- meaning "one")

I have stamina, as you know, and that is essential for behavior modification.

You're smart; you understand how "explaining" doesn't work. They have to feel it. They HATE the Birther stuff. If they want not to see it anymore, they have to suppress their urge to start up the "Karen's a guy" crap.

Stimulus - Response.

It even works for the dummies here. You'll see.

As I said earlier, I was OUT of the politics deal for a few days and only got back into it since people wanted to strike up the band with some more "Karen" threads. They bought their ticket; now they get to play the game.

They'll learn.

But see, the birther stuff had an agenda. I think you were dead serious about it. It's fair for you to have been serious about it if you honestly thought there was some meat there. Now it's just a really bad running joke that gets worse with every turn of the wheel. It has nothing to do with your male/female identity drama here, BUT it underscores it the longer you can't let it go.

Politics here are ultimately dead ends with nobody learning about anything, discovering anything, changing points of view, or having positive discourse that shapes thinking. Get back with talking about sex. Bump those threads up instead. Do more skinny girl posts featuring yourself in some new photos. The whole male/female ish will get deaded.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Those are like the abridged Cliff Notes.

I'm tired. I wrote a very long PM to someone else on that, and I will send you something in a bit, via PM.

 

[Karen Kraft]

This is the question. Call me whatever the fuck you want--female, male, gay, straight, ugly, short, smelly, whatever. Why doth the lady protest so much?

Karen, as the OP, I'll tell you what I've told you before. I could give a shit who you are. Personally, I think this is a shared ID. But I've also seen your photo and your video, and I believe someone posting under this ID is a young, skinny female.

I think you get so much flak for a couple of reasons. One is that you post a lot, and often wade into politically questionable waters and logically questionable argument techniques. Another is that there is *something* off about the collective posts of Karen Kraft, something Aspergerishly un-"there" about the person underneath them, and people perceive that and ascribe it their own explanation (She's a man! She's an alt! She's more than one person!).

And the third is that it gets a rise out of you every time, so people keep doing it. The more you overreact, the more there is to react to. It's LT disease.

I didn't start this thread because I think you're a male. I started it because I thought it was funny to say that I found the lack of any "Karen is a male" threads disorienting. But if you ever want the real ones to stop...stop helping them every fucking time.

[/dumb advice]

Unfortunately, that's not true.

Turning the other cheek here gets you flayed.

I have been here for about 6 or 7 years, I guess, and I spent well over two of those years pretending the shit storm about me would just lose steam and die. It does not. If I post political threads where people feel ill-equipped to reply cogently, they create the "Karen" threads.

What I have learned is that the only way to stop that bullshit is to confront it. Call them out. Make them put up or shut up. They ARE children and they are afraid to go one-on-one with me. That's why they all disappear from their little snark threads once I come in. They are pussies and they can't cut the mustard.

As I have said to others here. Where I grew up, boy or girl: if you back away from a fight you will spend your life getting pummeled. I confront these people and they run and hide. Their punishment? More Birther threads. They will learn. Trust me. I have excellent stamina.

 

[The_Trouvere]

What's this shit? Middle school?

You giving me an assignement to run along and fetch some data for you -- ABOUT you? Fuck no. I will give you this: look in the thread about Democrats and Republicans being more or less racist or bigoted or whatever it was, and the Reagan stopped the Cold War one as well.

Maybe you don't realize you do it; take a look and let me know what you see.

All I was doing was asking you to substantiate an attack on me. But I did humor you by looking up those threads.

In this thread that you started, "Democrats in history - Let's take a look," you posted statements by Democrats in the past that indicated that they were race bigots. I quoted Abraham Lincoln in his debate with Stephen Douglas to demonstrate that Lincoln also made statements that would now be considered to be racist. Then vetteman came along with his usual insults. Nevertheless, I was not disproven. Lincoln really made those statements.

I just bumped your thread, "Obama: Ronald Reagan Didn't Win The Cold War," in order to disprove something you said.
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=662565&page=10

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's a long story.

Cliff Notes:

Twin
Half gone
Pretty one
Smart one
Tomboy
Ambivalence / anger / jealousy / guilt at first three
Broken mirror image

I think this makes for a more interesting story than any birther thread.

 

[Wrong Element]

It will put the lotion in the basket. It will put on the lotion! Put the lotion in the basket!

Heh. Reminds me of this thread: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=232820&page=2

As you can see, Karen's, um, eccentricity has a long history.

 

[The_Trouvere]

That's where the whole "no sense of humor" thing comes in.

Is this your idea of a sense of humor? I'm taking this from your profile:

"Go fuck yourself, idiot.
Early in life I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. I chose the former and have seen no reason to change.
Biography:
Fuck off. I don't have to tell you shit.
Location:
I thought I told you to go fuck yourself
Occupation:
Like that's any of YOUR business."

I see it as evidence of a malevolent and twisted personality.

 

[The_Trouvere]

What I have learned is that the only way to stop that bullshit is to confront it. Call them out. Make them put up or shut up. They ARE children and they are afraid to go one-on-one with me. That's why they all disappear from their little snark threads once I come in. They are pussies and they can't cut the mustard.

As I have said to others here. Where I grew up, boy or girl: if you back away from a fight you will spend your life getting pummeled. I confront these people and they run and hide. Their punishment? More Birther threads. They will learn. Trust me. I have excellent stamina.

That is not the life experience and attitude of a slender rich girl, but of a man who grew up in a tough, which is to say, low income neighborhood. You should also consider that your behavior is dysfunctional. The more delusional threads you post about the President's birthplace, the more we doubt that you are who you say you are.

 

[PannieMonster]

That is not the life experience and attitude of a slender rich girl, but of a man who grew up in a tough, which is to say, low income neighborhood. You should also consider that your behavior is dysfunctional. The more delusional threads you post, the more we doubt that you are who you say you are.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I asked you to prove that you are a moron. So far, you refuse to do that.

I stated a fact and you started to name call.

 

[PannieMonster]

I stated a fact and you started to name call.

No, I said I don't have to prove anything to you, but by your same logic, prove to me that you are a moron.

It's really simple. It's one of those questions like: Do you still beat your wife and kids?

 

[where]

No idea, actually, and I couldn't give a shit, but I was feeling disoriented without at least one of these threads on the main page.

what the fuck have you started....

 

[Pookie]

So Pookie's thread admitting that Karen Kraft is who she says she is has been denounced?

Zumi, that's disgusting.

Nobody ever pays attention to me. *sigh*

 

[Pookie]

I'm thinking that thread might've hurt more than helped. Almost as if it were a mockery rather than a genuine statement of fact.

Well, it was a genuine thread and genuine statement of fact. The dude's a girl. Err ... or you know what I mean.

Seriously. He's a she. I mean, she's a she.

 

[Saint Peter]

Well, it was a genuine thread and genuine statement of fact. The dude's a girl. Err ... or you know what I mean.

Seriously. He's a she. I mean, she's a she.

Did she whip her cock out for you?

You seem very certain.

 

[Pookie]

Did she whip her cock out for you?

You seem very certain.

I am. Very.

 

[Pookie]

I am. Very.

Here's my campaign promise: "No new Karen Kraft is a guy posts"

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Did she whip her cock out for you?

You seem very certain.

I am. Very.

Sorry Pooks, but you're the Director of the Hawaiian Department of Health in this storyline. Your obvious expertise in this matter is to be dismissed in favor of unsubstantiated allegations.

 

[Saint Peter]

Here's my campaign promise: "No new Karen Kraft is a guy posts"

Sorry.

I will go find a new porno site.

 

[Pookie]

Sorry Pooks, but you're the Director of the Hawaiian Department of Health in this storyline. Your obvious expertise in this matter is to be dismissed in favor of unsubstantiated allegations.

HA!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

HA!

I'd sure show you my vaulted long form, Pookiepie.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Unfortunately, that's not true.

Turning the other cheek here gets you flayed.

I have been here for about 6 or 7 years, I guess, and I spent well over two of those years pretending the shit storm about me would just lose steam and die. It does not. If I post political threads where people feel ill-equipped to reply cogently, they create the "Karen" threads.

What I have learned is that the only way to stop that bullshit is to confront it. Call them out. Make them put up or shut up. They ARE children and they are afraid to go one-on-one with me. That's why they all disappear from their little snark threads once I come in. They are pussies and they can't cut the mustard.

As I have said to others here. Where I grew up, boy or girl: if you back away from a fight you will spend your life getting pummeled. I confront these people and they run and hide. Their punishment? More Birther threads. They will learn. Trust me. I have excellent stamina.

Go for it. It's working like gangbusters so far.