Ron paul: Obama's goal is economic collapse

[Byron In Exile]

Well you are from CA, so I will let that one go.

Aw, I'm just fuckin' with ya.

It would be Ron Paul, really.

 

[FASCES]

When the economy collapse, the super richs (who is not affected by the collapse) buy up propaties.

Interesting system.

And "propaties" are what exactly?

I am not trying to be an asshole about this (for once) but if you do not know
who to spell it, it is really not that hard to discover how. How can you expect
someone to know what you are talking about, much less care, if you cannot even
form the word correctly?

I agree that all this "stimulus" spending is going to bankrupt us.

But I suppose that was always the plan.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

So is Obama a fascist or a Marxist or a socialist? You know those terms aren't interchangeable, right?

Answered you in the thread you created to make the point.

They are the same thing, only WHEN they are used makes them not interchangeable.

 

[naughtycakes]

Answered you in the thread you created to make the point.

They are the same thing, only WHEN they are used makes them not interchangeable.

I have no idea what that means, but thanks for answering.

 

[richard_daily]

Yep.

Next question?

post links.

 

[MechaBlade]

He's not malevolent.

The fact is, whether the economy crashes and burns doesn't really matter for him.

He'll be well taken care of whatever happens.

You don't seriously believe any president doesn't care about his legacy?

Not collapse, but to bring it under Fascist control to create that perfect egalitarian society. He told us that during the campaign, he told Joe, the Plumber the same thing.

He's a Marxist, a Statist, a Collectivist, an Ivory-Tower Altruistic Socialist, who like the Imams want to give us the vote, as long as all the candidates are of the Elite (Ivy-League) Class.

how is he a Marxist?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You don't seriously believe any president doesn't care about his legacy?


how is he a Marxist?

His Dad was a Marxist.
His mother studied Marxism and was a member of the little red Unitarian church that preached dialectic materialism.
They chose as his mentor, Frank Davis Marshall, a communist.
In his own book, he describes how his feelings of isolation led to his seeking out and being accepted by the ivy-league Marxists professors.

Tell me what leads you to believe he's anything but a Marxist at the core?

Many of the things he said on the campaign trail about pain, reordering the economy, higher energy prices, and fairness also spoke to his natural inclinations.

 

[tmleadr03]

Ron Paul is moonbat crazy about many things, the economy is not one of them.

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Hope and denial.

Amen.

Time for some Hymn 43...

 

[off2bed]

His Dad was a Marxist.
His mother studied Marxism and was a member of the little red Unitarian church that preached dialectic materialism.
They chose as his mentor, Frank Davis Marshall, a communist.
In his own book, he describes how his feelings of isolation led to his seeking out and being accepted by the ivy-league Marxists professors.

Tell me what leads you to believe he's anything but a Marxist at the core?

Many of the things he said on the campaign trail about pain, reordering the economy, higher energy prices, and fairness also spoke to his natural inclinations.

You forgot 20+ years in the church of black liberation theology, which was born out of Marxism.

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You forgot 20+ years in the church of black liberation theology, which was born out of Marxism.

Yes I did. Thank you for the correction!

 

[off2bed]

All that time being put on the Wright path eh?

"He's my son, I'm proud of him!" Wreverend Wright says.

 

[KingOrfeo]

His mother studied Marxism and was a member of the little red Unitarian church that preached dialectic materialism.

I dunno about the others, but I was raised a Unitarian and there was absolutely no preaching of dialectical materialism. I never even encountered the phrase until junior-high social studies (in the context of learning about the Soviet Union, which still existed then).

 

[The_Trouvere]

Barack Obama knows full well that if the economy continues to decline the Republicans will do well in the election of 2010, and the Republican presidential candidate in 2012 will win in a landslide. The Literotica General Board wingnuts know this too. That is why they hope the President's economic policies fail, and why they gloat at every evidence that they are failing.

 

[off2bed]

Barack Obama knows full well that if the economy continues to decline the Republicans will do well in the election of 2010, and the Republican presidential candidate in 2012 will win in a landslide. The Literotica General Board wingnuts know this too. That is why they hope the President's economic policies fail, and why they gloat at every evidence that they are failing.

If Obama knows his policies will cause a Republican to be elected in 2012, why is he doing them? Surely he knows all his massive tax increases, crackdowns on liberty, and creeping socialism won't revive the economy, right?

 

[The_Trouvere]

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

If Obama knows his policies will cause a Republican to be elected in 2012, why is he doing them? Surely he knows all his massive tax increases, crackdowns on liberty, and creeping socialism won't revive the economy, right?

Those policies worked for Franklin Roosevelt.

Do you think a continuation of President Bush's policies would yield better results? I've already posted this article from the Wall Street Journal, but I will again.

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By WSJ Staff

President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.

His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

 

[Byron In Exile]

I dunno about the others, but I was raised a Unitarian and there was absolutely no preaching of dialectical materialism. I never even encountered the phrase until junior-high social studies (in the context of learning about the Soviet Union, which still existed then).

Unitarians are creedless. As a result, Unitarian congregations are the most diverse of any religion. They have only a loose set of general principles, which are not incompatible with far left philosophy, so it's entirely possible that there are Unitarian congregations that preach dialectical materialism.

 

[Byron In Exile]

post links.

If you can't pay attention, do your own searches.

 

[off2bed]

Those policies worked for Franklin Roosevelt.

Do you think a continuation of President Bush's policies would yield better results? I've already posted this article from the Wall Street Journal, but I will again.

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By WSJ Staff

President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.

His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

Roosevelt and Bush are straw men. Try living for today. We don't have a depression, so why would FDR's policies work anyway (and they prolonged the depression, as you very well know)?

 

[tmleadr03]

Roosevelt and Bush are straw men. Try living for today. We don't have a depression, so why would FDR's policies work anyway (and they prolonged the depression, as you very well know)?

Hey FDR type policies worked incredibly well in the crash of the early '20s as you very well know! Brought that crash right out it did, it did!







Oh, wait...

 

[The_Trouvere]

Roosevelt and Bush are straw men. Try living for today. We don't have a depression, so why would FDR's policies work anyway (and they prolonged the depression, as you very well know)?

What ended the Great Depression was high government spending, high government employment, and high taxation on the rich. In 1944 the top tax rate was 94%. The unemployment rate was 1.2%

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=213
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

 

[KingOrfeo]

Who is John Galt?

Nobody who matters.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I see Ron Paul finally agrees with me on Obama's goal.

I think Paul was speaking ironically. I.e., he says (predictably and unremarkably for a libertarian) that economic collapse will result from these policies, and that this is (to Paul) so obvious that it is as if that were what Obama intended; just a rhetorical device. I don't think he is seriously attributing any Trotskyist motives to Obama.

Unfortunately, I have little hope you were speaking ironically.