When does this gay pride stuff become parody?

[Stella_Omega]

Samuel, repeat after me;

"I apologise for my inappropriate sarcasm."

That wasn't so very difficult, was it?

 

[Guest]

Sarcasm is used in humor?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Sarah - I think you've misinterpreted a few things. First, I didn't come here looking for a fight. I came here looking to make a joke. To humor people. Yes, I was sarcastic. Sarcasm is often used in humor.

No, Sammy... humor is funny. YOU were being an asshole. Here, I'll help you better understand the word (this IS a writers forum, BTW)

sar·casm [ sar kàzzəm ] noun: the use of sharp, cutting remarks or language intended to mock, wound, or subject to contempt or ridicule.

So yeah, when you try to "mock, wound, or subject to contempt or ridicule" us, we don't find it too damn amusing. I also like this quote by Oscar Wilde (the Irish playwright, poet and author of numerous short stories and one novel):

"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit."


Second, I do understand the motives behind the Toronto organization. That's what I'm laughing at.

Yup. Being inclusive is WAY funny! (yes, THAT was sarcasm! See! They even have a smilie for it!)


Third, no, it wasn't my plan to offend people. But hey, perhaps I should have remembered that some people have very thin skins.

Hmmmm. Maybe if the rest of us get to kick around, torture and abuse straight males for a few decades, you can see how thick your skin is, sweetheart!


Fourth, it's Stella who is looking for a fight or argument. Not me. I've seen her comments on other threads on this website. She comes across as someone who is looking to fight or argue with anyone she views as critical of her worldview, whether or not they truly are or not.

Nice try honeybunch. You started sarcastic and then went immediately into insulting. Now, you are in full blown offended mode and are trying to place the blame on the person who called "bullshit" on you. Sorry, Samster.... that just not gonna fly around here.


Those are my thoughts...

Sam

BTW, nice start in the AH, bub! Don't think you made too many friends yet, though... (except for the few "self haters" and/or trolls... but you're welcome to them )

 

[SumLightCat]

Box is right SumLightCat. Homophobia has much less to do with sexuality than it does with basic human rights. It's all about religious fundies fear of losing control and old MF'er fear of change to the status quo. As stated before these people need to denigrate/repress SOMEBODY. First it was blacks, then women and now the queer folk. Mebe that's why the majority of LGBT's want to be so inclusive of others and why we are so disappointed in str8 women and people of color who are not trying to help change things.

I'd also like to interject here that religiosity isn't the same as being a "fundie". There are some deeply and proudly religious people on this site that "don't judge" and for that I thank them. They might disagree with my "choice" of sexual orientation (ahem...), but they respect me as a human being, a mother and as Amy's loving spouse. To be treated as equal human beings is all we've ever asked.

Well absolutely - but seems to me like that's very close to what I said ... repressed folks need to repress other people too, so they don't feel like they're getting a bum rap all alone ... I mean, their suffering has to be for some reason, right? If other people could get along just fine, why, that might mean that they're ... gasp ... wrong and suffering for no purpose?

 

[Liar]

Sarcasm is used in humor?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7087/is_4_1/ai_n28682354/

 

[Safe_Bet]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7087/is_4_1/ai_n28682354/

That wasn't funny, Liar...

 

[Liar]

Well sue me or tear me a new one or whatever, but I agree with Samuel's original point (if maybe not the manner in which it was delivered - I didn't reflect on that til y'all bore down upon him like an anvil). The Toronto style alphabet soup is kinda funny.

Most of all because it is, as I pointed out, nothing but confusing for anyone who doesn't carry the "in"-dictionary, and counterproductive to the goal of inclusiveness. Want to be inclusive? As long as they just add narrow definition after narrow definition to a list, they'll never get there.

 

[Liar]

I remember how delighted I was the first time I got in contact with the term Queer. It seemed to stop picking shit to pieces, and instead just included and embraced everything of the "alternative" variety. But after a while, that morphed into something else, something too specific and nuanced and that I still haven't been able to wrap my brain around.

And now it's apparently a label on par with, for instance, Lesbian.

So then what?

 

[sr71plt]

I agree with Samuel's original point too. But then everyone (probably including Samuel) knew where it was going from there on this forum.

 

[Guest]

Sarcasm is used in humor?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7087/is_4_1/ai_n28682354/

Oh.

Well, hell.

I thought the pun was the lowest form of humor.

 

[Liar]

Oh.

Well, hell.

I thought the pun was the lowest form of humor.

Are you in favor of pun control?

 

[sr71plt]

How do you feel about punny sarcasm?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

How do you feel about punny sarcasm?

Or puny sarcasm?

 

[Safe_Bet]

Or puny sarcasm?

Exactly!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Sarcasm has its place, but it's not a medium for inclusive humor. It signifies dismissiveness, at the very least. Assuming Samuel intended to get the queers around here laughing, he used the wrong tool for the job.

It's like bringing the lawnmower indoors to clean the parlor carpet, or taking the sixteen-wheeler to the drive-in. Or some other metaphor referencing a bull in the china shop.

 

[sr71plt]

Well, no, I didn't get that the original posting was meant to be sarcastic at all. I took it as an observation that all that alphabet souping, representing demand for an equal-status letter for anything/everything, signaled a circus more than a movement. Certainly not anything like a unified, cohesive movement, if a neutral name can't even be accepted to cover it.

I think the oversensitivity on the subject on this forum is what pushed the thread over the edge.

 

[Guest]

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/sweetsubsarahh/sheep_off_cliff.jpg

 

[Safe_Bet]

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/sweetsubsarahh/sheep_off_cliff.jpg

*Coke spew*

. .

 

[sr71plt]

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/sweetsubsarahh/sheep_off_cliff.jpg

No pink one? Safe-bet had already jumped?

 

[Liar]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/sweetsubsarahh/sheep_off_cliff.jpg

Baaaaasejumping?

 

[Huckleman2000]

Oh.

Well, hell.

I thought the pun was the lowest form of humor.

It is. Wilde was being sarcastic.

 

[Guest]

It is. Wilde was being sarcastic.

Baaaaad joke.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, no, I didn't get that the original posting was meant to be sarcastic at all. I took it as an observation that all that alphabet souping, representing demand for an equal-status letter for anything/everything, signaled a circus more than a movement. Certainly not anything like a unified, cohesive movement, if a neutral name can't even be accepted to cover it.

I think the oversensitivity on the subject on this forum is what pushed the thread over the edge.

Sensitivity in any quantity will look like oversensitivity to you. But some people accuse me of aspergers' grade insensitivity. So I figure I'm pretty middle of the road, in fact.

I had to decide, sometime in the past, if I wanted to suck it up when people say things I disagree with, or say things that I think are hurtful to a larger group, or if it might be worthwhile to me to speak up at that point.

needless to say, 'sucking it up' means that a) people like you don't accuse me of being too thinskinned or too dramatic, but on the other hand,

b) other people who have to suck it up feel alone in their sense of alienation;
c) some people never hear that their humor is inappropriate, or that their information is incorrect, or that their world view isn't shared by half the people they thought it was.

Speaking up means that some people think I go looking for fights, but really--I just don't back down from fights anymore.

 

[sr71plt]

Sensitivity in any quantity will look like oversensitivity to you.


Speaking up means that some people think I go looking for fights, but really--I just don't back down from fights anymore.

On the first, you, of course, have nothing other than your attempt to put me in a box to base that statement on.

On the second, I knew you would start with this stuff if I dared to speak up on the initial posting.

Sort of ironic, ain't it?

*shrug*

 

[Safe_Bet]

Sensitivity in any quantity will look like oversensitivity to you. But some people accuse me of aspergers' grade insensitivity. So I figure I'm pretty middle of the road, in fact.

I had to decide, sometime in the past, if I wanted to suck it up when people say things I disagree with, or say things that I think are hurtful to a larger group, or if it might be worthwhile to me to speak up at that point.

needless to say, 'sucking it up' means that a) people like you don't accuse me of being too thinskinned or too dramatic, but on the other hand,

b) other people who have to suck it up feel alone in their sense of alienation;
c) some people never hear that their humor is inappropriate, or that their information is incorrect, or that their world view isn't shared by half the people they thought it was.

Speaking up means that some people think I go looking for fights, but really--I just don't back down from fights anymore.

I don't think he can hear you, Stella... the closet door is closed...