Dear Capitalists: Look at the Revolution clock! It's later than you realize.

[Le Jacquelope]

Workers are not only protesting in France, but they're also taking bosses hostage.

And even the Government is under attack.

50% of the French citizens polled, find these acts justified.


This could very well mean that the time for debating the evils of capitalism is passing, and the time for bringing it down by force, is nigh.



http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=13107147&ch=4226720&src=news

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The Russians tried the same crap in 1917 and you see how well communism fared there.

The workers of the world never created a single job anywhere.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

The Russians tried the same crap in 1917 and you see how well communism fared there.

I've said this before:
Communism and Capitalism alike are doomed to extinction.

The workers of the world never created a single job anywhere.

That is totally wrong.

Workers of the world sometimes become enterpreneurs. But workers always

ALWAYS

create jobs by buying stuff.


If workers did not buy anything, what jobs do you think would exist, aside from undertakers?

Can ANYONE answer me straight on that or did I just kill the thread?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Just go to Cuba or North Korea for a glimpse of how much work workers create. They eat lizards and drink rain water.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Just go to Cuba or North Korea for a glimpse of how much work workers create. They eat lizards and drink rain water.

Those are undemocratic countries.

Try Europe instead. Or France, with its nuclear reactors.


I challenge you here and now. If the workers of the world stop buying anything, tell me something: what jobs will happen then?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

In North Korea and Cuba there's nothing to buy. This is how it was in all the communist nations. THEY PRETEND TO PAY US, WE PRETEND TO WORK. Centrasl planning committees decided what got made or bought from overseas.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

In North Korea and Cuba there's nothing to buy. This is how it was in all the communist nations. THEY PRETEND TO PAY US, WE PRETEND TO WORK. Centrasl planning committees decided what got made or bought from overseas.

*sigh*

I'll say this again. Slowly.
Communism and Capitalism alike
are doomed to extinction.

There is this word called evolution that you ought to look up. Also look up "adapt or die". That applies to our economics systems as well as to biology.

Go back and read the opening link. Workers in France are attacking corporate bosses AND they are attacking Government offices.

Let me break it down for you... that means workers' minds are not for rent by corporations OR Government. They're looking for another way out.


Your argument isn't even relevant to the emerging realities of life here. There won't be capitalism. Or communism. Evolution dictates that there'll be something new coming in their place.

Once again, I will point you to socialist Europe. Are they producing nothing, too?

 

[3113]

Workers are not only protesting in France, but they're also taking bosses hostage.

And even the Government is under attack.

50% of the French citizens polled, find these acts justified.

This has no effect on the cafés right?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

This has no effect on the cafés right?

*coke spew*

You know, when you do an actual funny, I ain't above givin' respect.

And THAT was a funny.

 

[oggbashan]

Last week the ferry crossings from England to Calais and Dunkerque were stopped by a blockade of small fishing boats.

The French fishermen were complaining that they had already reached the annual limits allowed by their fish quota which had been agreed by their government with Europe. So they blocked the ports.

In Kent a motorway had to be closed to park the trucks that couldn't cross the Channel. The loss to truck drivers and transport companies runs into millions of pounds and they will be seeking compensation from the French Government which has signed a treaty providing free and unfettered transit of goods between countries. The truckers and their companies are still waiting for compensation for last year's blockage, and for the year before, ...

That is what French workers do. But they have to have reasonable food and good coffee when they do protest.

British workers used to behave like that too until Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher changed the laws about strike action.

The French have been revolting since 1789. They revolted in 1848, in 1871, during the late 1940s and early 1950s and were closest to another French Revolution in 1968.

The French are no example to follow when it comes to relations between the people and the government. The people cut off their ruler's head in the 18th Century. They still believe they can repeat the process.

Og

 

[Le Jacquelope]

The French have been revolting since 1789. They revolted in 1848, in 1871, during the late 1940s and early 1950s and were closest to another French Revolution in 1968.

The French are no example to follow when it comes to relations between the people and the government. The people cut off their ruler's head in the 18th Century. They still believe they can repeat the process.

Og

Going by that, I disagree. The French are role models.

 

[kendo1]

I've never found the French to be revolting.
Wonderful place, wonderful people.

 

[oggbashan]

I've never found the French to be revolting.
Wonderful place, wonderful people.

But then you don't have to endure their government. French governments have been issuing stupid edicts since Napoleon Bonaparte and avoiding them is a National pastime.

The French attitude to their government's regulations is "Do I really have to? What is the chance that I'll be caught?"

All smoking has been banned in French Bistros. Outside any major town you can tell a Bistro by the smog drifting out when the door is opened.

Every French village is supposed to be covered by a 50kph speed limit between the village sign and the sign with a line through it that shows that you have left the village. If you are local you ignore the speed limit except when the traffic police are around. You probably know they are due Thursday afternoons between 2pm and 3pm. If you are a tourist you have to obey the speed limits because you don't know the timetable and anyway catching tourists is acceptable to the villagers, but not catching great-uncle Jacques!

As President De Gaulle said "How can you be expected to govern a country that has two hundred and forty-six kinds of cheese?" (Newsweek Oct 1, 1962)

Og

 

[3113]

As President De Gaulle said "How can you be expected to govern a country that has two hundred and forty-six kinds of cheese?"

You put the waiters in charge. I hear they're the best in the world.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

JACQUELOPE

There will be capitalism otherwise humanity will starve to death. Lotsa people wont like it, but all of them like to eat.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

JACQUELOPE

There will be capitalism otherwise humanity will starve to death. Lotsa people wont like it, but all of them like to eat.

Bullshit.

Humans have survived before capitalism. Humans will survive afterwards.

How old do you think Capitalism is? How long do you think humans have walked the Earth?

 

[amicus]

You are such an asshole; but for others who may stumble across this thread:

Free market place ideology was practiced when human number one met human number two and traded a stone axe for a spear.

It is called free trade, an act that humans naturally practice until some asshole comes along and threatens to take what is not his by the use of force.

As such, and since, as JBJ said, people like to eat, capitalism will never, ever go extinct.

Dummy...

amicus

 

[DeeZire]

JACQUELOPE

There will be capitalism otherwise humanity will starve to death. Lotsa people wont like it, but all of them like to eat.

Excuse me but much of humanity is already starving to death in capitalist-inclined countries.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

JACQUELOPE

AMICUS is correct (again). Whenever I trade what I produce, to you, for what you produce, capitalism exists.

Everywhere socialism or communism exists or has been, capitalists were necessary to prevent the nation from starving. This takes the form of allowing peasants to raise pigs & chickens for sale, or buyiing grain from the West.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Excuse me but much of humanity is already starving to death in capitalist-inclined countries.

I think youre seriously wrong with this claim.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

JACQUELOPE

AMICUS is correct (again). Whenever I trade what I produce, to you, for what you produce, capitalism exists.

Everywhere socialism or communism exists or has been, capitalists were necessary to prevent the nation from starving. This takes the form of allowing peasants to raise pigs & chickens for sale, or buyiing grain from the West.

I refute you with the example of the socialist democracies of Europe.

 

[Dragonlipz]

I refute you with the example of the socialist democracies of Europe.

That and some good smoke will solve all the world's problems.........need a light?