Eat Your Heart Out In Claifornia.

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517137,00.html

YOU FAGGETTES AINT NEVER GETTIN ANY OF THIS...

YOU GO GIRL!

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

You spelled California incorrectly.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You have dyslexia.

 

[Lady_Guenivere]

Good thing otherwise you would have looked like an idiot. Whew!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Its impossible for me to look like an idiot unless you have dyslexia.

 

[amicus]

I saw that piece on the news...several times...the judge that asked the question is openly and admittedly queer and the girl gave an honest answer.

I am reminded of a line by Tia Leoni in the film, "Deep Impact", where she told the President: "I always thought the truth was the best thing to tell the American people.

Then again, in "Miss Congeniality", "World Peace", being the politically correct answer...this girl was supposed to either not answer or give a PC one....sad...and nothing to be done about it....but I send her my congratulations...

ami

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

But the judge and the Usual Suspects have cows about anything that isnt left wing orthodxy. Of course theyre upset, being honest never crosses their minds.

 

[amicus]

Ain't that the truth! Cooking up a new thread, maybe, cuz I got a title:

"THE OBAMA BANANA REPUBLIC"

Ya think it'll fly?



ami

 

[amicus]

Just watched the runner-up to the Miss America title on Hannity and she brought me to tears.

"Stand up for your belief's, your faith, your integrity..."

What happened at that pageant is a travesty and I predict, the beginning of the end of the Gay movement in this nation.

"I knew..." she said, "As soon as I heard the question, that I had to be true to myself, even if it cost me the Crown."

The left once again illustrates why, 'morally bankrupt', is an accurate assessment. Where a minority community can punish a young woman in front of millions in the television audience, well, it is beyond disgust.

Amicus

 

[JackLuis]

Just watched the runner-up to the Miss America title on Hannity and she brought me to tears.


Amicus

It is too bad that she got that question and not one about World Peace or lost puppies. That she answered true to her convictions is to her credit, however she knew when she said it it wasn't "PC" and so I suspect she made a choice between her personal beliefs and what would get her "Brownie" points.

To her credit she gave her honest opinion. It is as valid as anyone's.

Is she wrong? That is up to a lot of others to decide, though it seems she is in the minority at the moment.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Just watched the runner-up to the Miss America title on Hannity and she brought me to tears.

"Stand up for your belief's, your faith, your integrity..."

What happened at that pageant is a travesty and I predict, the beginning of the end of the Gay movement in this nation.
"I knew..." she said, "As soon as I heard the question, that I had to be true to myself, even if it cost me the Crown."

The left once again illustrates why, 'morally bankrupt', is an accurate assessment. Where a minority community can punish a young woman in front of millions in the television audience, well, it is beyond discust.

Amicus

Yeah, Ami, we saw how accurate your predictions were that involved your "other" beauty pageant winner, didn't we!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/Safe_Bet2008/palin-miss-alaska-b.jpg

 

[Boxlicker101]

That comment seems pretty mild, and probably reflects a plurality of voters in the state. There are some who are rabidly against same sex marriage, but there are many more who are mildly opposed, in principle, but with no really strong feelings. Nobody is ever going to convince the rabid ones, but there should be enough of the other kind who can be convinced to vote to repeal Prop. 8 in a few more years.

 

[slyc_willie]

Regardless of the answer Miss California gave, there would have been media furor over this. If she said she was all for same-sex marriage, she would have been blasted for not properly representing the Prop 8 State. Even if she had said "no comment," there would have a reaction. It was a no-win situation. As far as I'm concerned, bravo for sticking to her guns, but too bad she feels that way.

 

[JamesSD]

The question was a little unfair for a beauty pagent. Obviously Perez Hilton knew it would stew up publicity for him, which is why he asked it. While things like AIDS, hunger, poverty, and even possibly the environment are fair game, truly hot button issues like taxes, abortion, civil rights and the like aren't really fair. Best case, you only piss off 45% of people rather than 55%.

Of course, Miss USA sucks anyways. It's the #2 to Miss America in a dying industry.

 

[DeeZire]

As I recall, the question was if the state of Vermont had the right to approve of gay marriage, not if she personally approved of gay marriage. She blew a great opportunity to display her cognitive skills - instead proving that she was lacking in that department. Another gal did the same thing - giving a non-answer to an easy question, which sort of supports the claim that the best and the brightest are not always the prettiest.

Of course it's no surprise that Fox and Ami would perceive some sort of liberal agenda. They complain about the PC police, but they do the same thing in reverse, manufacturing an issue where non exists. But it is entertaining, coming here and watching the whiners running about chasing shadows like deranged cats.

 

[JackLuis]

But it is entertaining, coming here and watching the whiners running about chasing shadows like deranged cats.

Yeah, but so predictable.

 

[amicus]

That is a mixed bag of commentary, for sure.

Predictions are an iffy business at best, but 30 States have voted on legalizing Gay marriage and 30 States have said no. California also said no and if anything the young woman's answer spoke for a majority.

The damage is done, however, Miss America, Miss North Carolina has been forgotten without ever being known because of the incident.

I still maintain that her answering the question honestly, being consistent with her belief and faith and moral judgment, is to be applauded.

And since most of you folks 'believe' that 'opinions' are just a dime a dozen, I wonder why you consider your, 'opinion' that Gay marriage is right and proper with such absolute surety?

Amicus

 

[JamesSD]

Interesting side note: It appears Miss California dated Michael Phelps at some point.

 

[Boxlicker101]

As I recall, the question was if the state of Vermont had the right to approve of gay marriage, not if she personally approved of gay marriage. She blew a great opportunity to display her cognitive skills - instead proving that she was lacking in that department. Another gal did the same thing - giving a non-answer to an easy question, which sort of supports the claim that the best and the brightest are not always the prettiest.

Of course it's no surprise that Fox and Ami would perceive some sort of liberal agenda. They complain about the PC police, but they do the same thing in reverse, manufacturing an issue where non exists. But it is entertaining, coming here and watching the whiners running about chasing shadows like deranged cats.

Personally, I am in favor of equality, which includes gay marriage. I have always taken that position and I voted that way. Nevertheless, it is interesting to read the reference to "whiners" on the subject. Prop. 8 did pass, although opposed by me and most of those on this forum, and the "whiners" are entirely those who opposed it.

 

[DeeZire]

I stand corrected. Apparently, the Hilton dude was upset about her anti-gay stance, not the fact that she turned a question about state's rights into a personal issue. But so what? It's a juried contest. I'm sure Fox is equally pissed that the evil NY Times won five Pulitzers.

The fact remains that 50 years from now, gay marriage will be as dead an issue as slavery is today. At least in 50 years they'll be able to look back at this particular Miss USA contest and agree that the judges got it right.

We really don't need to be glorifying prejudice by capping it with a crown - or white sheets with hoods. It's a new century (for some of us.)

 

[amicus]

Some see the new century as the prelude to a fall from grace, quite as the Roman Empire devolved into hedonism and thus to the dark ages. Eating their own children, men sleeping with men and women with women, a world that has lost it directions according to many.

This is not a generation to be proud of, rather one to feel shame for.

Amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

It's about to change. The economics will force correction upon us.

 

[JamesSD]

The fact remains that 50 years from now, gay marriage will be as dead an issue as slavery is today. At least in 50 years they'll be able to look back at this particular Miss USA contest and agree that the judges got it right.

Agreed. Even most young republicans are moderate on gay rights. Looking at the demographics of CA's Prop 8 voting, people under the age of 40 overwhelmingly rejected the proposition. The majority of voters under 65 opposed prop 8, while 67% of those over 65 favored it.

Some of those young voters will become more conservative with time, but there's pretty decent evidence that those in their 40s now don't hold drastically different beliefs as a whole group than they did in their 30s. It's not that people become more conservative as they age, it's that society has been becoming more progressive as each generation tends to lock itself in place.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

People get conservative as they age, and the USUAL SUSPECTS/WHITE MAN'S BURDEN dont vote.

 

[amicus]

JamesSD, et al....There are those who consider the entire, 'Gay Movement', as a colossal joke, a pushing to the extreme the tolerant nature of society to accept fringe behavior as long as it remains 'fringe' and does not impinge upon 'normal' people, their lives, traditions and conventional morality.

This whole 'Gay Pride' phenomena, Gays in the military, no 'gender' questions on work applications and the latest flap, Gay Marriage, has possibly reached the pinnacle and will increasingly spiral downward to, 'closet' status from whence it came.

Only three to five percent, depending on your source, of Americans indicate even a remote association with a gay lifestyle or preference. Think of it...this tiny percentage causing such a furor, blown entirely out of proportion and well overdue for the balloon to collapse.

It is perhaps the only silver lining on the very dark cloud of an extreme left wing incumbent in the White House; that the blatant expression of far left liberal social morals and political premises is finally out in the open and subject to public scrutiny and disapproval.

In over fifty years of watching the political parade in the nation's capitol, there has never been such resistance and dismay at the first three months of a new administration.

The 'Tea Party' tax protest day of April 15th, was just a beginning of an expanding disapproval of national politics.

An interesting time we have...

amicus