Calling all Cynics

[tickledkitty]

Shut up, Freddie. Ass. Seriously, how about giving it a rest?


SR, somehow I had a feeling what this was before I even opened the thread. I saw part of it on CNN but was going to look for it on YouTube later. Thank you.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Shut up, Freddie. Ass. Seriously, how about giving it a rest?


SR, somehow I had a feeling what this was before I even opened the thread. I saw part of it on CNN but was going to look for it on YouTube later. Thank you.

Either you have no sense of humor when reading what I wrote or you are as dumb as you look. I'm think it's the latter rather than the former or...both.

 

[tickledkitty]

Either you have no sense of humor when reading what I wrote or you are as dumb as you look. I'm think it's the latter rather than the former or...both.

Neither my lack of humor nor my lack of intelligence are any of your concern. So, fuck you.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Neither my lack of humor nor my lack of intelligence are any of your concern. So, fuck you.

I wasn't bothering you with my comment. What is your problem? Are you that psycho that I'm not allowed to comment on someone's post without you having a foul attitude?

Gees, if you're like this here, what are you like in person? I'd hate to be the guy coming home to you.

Have a nice day...kitty.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Neither my lack of humor nor my lack of intelligence are any of your concern. So, fuck you.

Perhaps, you should post your cry for help to the "Depression and Mental Disorder" thread.

Get help.

 

[The_Fool]

I remember seeing the Paul Potts video for the first time. Same but different. I bet the results end up the same though. Good luck Susan.

 

[Dragonlipz]

It's all about T&A now.....hell, Edith Piaf and Patsy Cline not to mention Aretha Franklin would have a hard time these days.....Didn't that snotty english dude Simon insult that Hudson girl, the one who won a Grammy AND an Oscar?
Good luck to the lil Scottish lass with the big pipes.....

BFW - get back on your meds.....

 

[shereads]

Courage repaid with joy. Thanks for sharing this.

 

[sr71plt]

Courage repaid with joy. Thanks for sharing this.

More talent and show business savvy than courage, I think. That was a well-trained voice. Just as Simon C. teased her about, she knew what would happen when she got up on that stage (as did the program's producers)--and used it to her advantage. She knew she could sing it that way (and declared such before she went on). The reactions of the judges looked genuine, though.

And there's no taking away from her musical talent. Happy to see that most posters here allowed Susan Boyle to have the spotlight on this thread. I've sung that song--and she does, indeed, have one phenomenal set of pipes. (Her only strain was in the lowest register--and that was mostly covered by the audience's cheering.) I'm hoping I'll get to see a clip of her in the next round.

Brilliant choice of song. I think I'll go listen to it again.

 

[manyeyedhydra]

Simon Cowell got caught out this time as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKg7SB-tcdA

I believe he described the guy as unmarketable as he looked like a hobbit.

 

[shereads]

More talent and show business savvy than courage, I think. That was a well-trained voice.

My trusted sources (some guy's blog) say otherwise: Susan Boyle allegedly has a learning disability caused by oxygen deprivation at birth; lives alone in her childhood home; developed her singing talent at church but had given up singing after her mother's death in 2007.

My first cynical thought as I watched the video was that the producers saw the ratings potential of this "ugly duckling" plotline and that the judges' surprise was part of the script. My version is meaner than yours, in that I don't think Boyle was in on the joke. The producers could have spared her the initial eye-rolling and snickering by investing in a few minutes of pre-performance hairstyling and makeup. They knew it would make a better story this way. Let the audience and Cowell have some laughs at her expense, then let her be redeemed by her talent - and her courage.

I'm more comfortable with your version.

In fact, I hope she made herself look as dowdy as possible so that later, she can emerge as a swan. Whatever else is true, that voice is worth the cost of a makeover.

Some guy's blog: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=38580

 

[shereads]

I just dropped in fer a cuppa tea 'n now me eyes're same as yours.....

Somme is here!



[/threadjack]

I'm going to watch again. It's good to feel...well, good.

 

[sr71plt]

My trusted sources (some guy's blog) say otherwise: Susan Boyle allegedly has a learning disability caused by oxygen deprivation at birth; lives alone in her childhood home; developed her singing talent at church but had given up singing after her mother's death in 2007.

My first cynical thought as I watched the video was that the producers saw the ratings potential of this "ugly duckling" plotline and that the judges' surprise was part of the script. My version is meaner than yours, in that I don't think Boyle was in on the joke. The producers could have spared her the initial eye-rolling and snickering by investing in a few minutes of pre-performance hairstyling and makeup. They knew it would make a better story this way. Let the audience and Cowell have some laughs at her expense, then let her be redeemed by her talent - and her courage.

I'm more comfortable with your version.

In fact, I hope she made herself look as dowdy as possible so that later, she can emerge as a swan. Whatever else is true, that voice is worth the cost of a makeover.

Some guy's blog: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=38580

Whatever Susan Boyle (whose voice, again, is well trained. She can't really not know she has that voice and that she spent considerable time working on the delivery of that particular song. You have to get the emotions of the phrasing right to deliver it; the notes themselves aren't that challenging and the range isn't particularly taxing--she had the register set lower than normal too, because she's a contralto) or the judges knew ahead of time, the show's producers know what the performers can do--they don't determine what goes on stage from the thousands of applicants by lottery; they see the acts performed (and those MCs being filmed in the wings knew what was coming).

American idol had a male contestant last year who provided the same effect (and a similar booing changing to immediate cheers), although his voice wasn't as good as hers. Her stage setup may have resulted from his prior example.

None of which take away from her singing talent.

 

[3113]

Here's the latest...thanks to that YouTube video!

In the space of a few minutes and a few notes, unemployed Scottish charity worker Susan Boyle won over 3,000 fans. In the space of a few days and YouTube, she has grabbed the attention of millions. And she also reportedly has A-list fans such as Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher.

...As she revealed her dream to be a professional singer -- as big as Elaine Paige -- many in the 3,000 crowd in The Clyde Auditorium, Glasgow, Scotland, were smirking or even laughing. Seconds later, the first gasps emerged as she sang the opening lines of "I Dreamed a Dream" from "Les Miserables." About five minutes later, a standing ovation and the praise of the judges, including the show's creator Simon Cowell, were ringing in her ears.

Judge Piers Morgan wrote on the show's Web site: "I watched her performance back again last night, I texted Simon in Hollywood: 'My god, Susan was even better than I remembered -- she's unbelievable.' He agreed, and I could almost feel his beady little eyes going 'KERCHING!' down the line from his new Beverly Hills mansion. "For, unless I am a brainless aardvark -- which might, sadly, be true -- then this West Lothian villager is going to sell a lot of records once this series is over."

...Cast recordings of the track have entered the UK's official midweek singles chart and the iTunes chart. And Boyle is the bookmakers' favorite to win the talent show. She is also among the most searched terms on Google, and her name has been a high trend on Twitter since her appearance. Boyle told the show Web site she's beginning to enjoy a bit of star treatment: "It's lovely when all the kids stop me in the street to congratulate me."

Full article here.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Somme is here!



[/threadjack]

I'm going to watch again. It's good to feel...well, good.

Amen to that.

 

[NoJo]

Yes, she gives the lie to the misconception that the ugly ones are delusional. She has a sweet voice.

Personally I'm voting for Flawless, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrOMLylvhQ&feature=related

 

[Misty_Morning]

You know what get's me?

Why the fuck did people assume she couldn't sing?

I mean, the assholes basically ridiculed her.

And ya know she was more than aware of it. And still she fucking belted it out.



It brings to mind all the studies you hear about over the years concerning perceived attractiveness and response.

Maybe it goes to show that alot of folks never really grow up and realize beauty is MORE than just skin deep.

 

[Safe_Bet]

You know what get's me?

Why the fuck did people assume she couldn't sing?

I mean, the assholes basically ridiculed her.

And ya know she was more than aware of it. And still she fucking belted it out.

It brings to mind all the studies you hear about over the years concerning perceived attractiveness and response.

Maybe it goes to show that alot of folks never really grow up and realize beauty is MORE than just skin deep.

You know you're right. That look and little smile she gave the audience right before she started to sign said "Fuck yeah... now you all are gonna be kissing my ass cuz I KNOW I'm good!"

 

[shereads]

It brings to mind all the studies you hear about over the years concerning perceived attractiveness and response.

And ageism. Notice that Simon C rolls his eyes when she tells him her age.

My non-cynical side (the "Inner Marshmallow") prefers to think that the disbelief was based on the idea that someone so talented has been performing in a backwater for decades without anyone noticing.

 

[Misty_Morning]

And ageism. Notice that Simon C rolls his eyes when she tells him her age.

My non-cynical side (the "Inner Marshmallow") prefers to think that the disbelief was based on the idea that someone so talented has been performing in a backwater for decades without anyone noticing.

Indeed.

Just to say...I am currently looking for some address (either email or snail mail) to which I can send a note saying just how she made me feel when I heard her sing.

Yeah, prolly will be lost in a pile of other good wishes....but...she deserves it.

 

[sr71plt]

Indeed.

Just to say...I am currently looking for some address (either email or snail mail) to which I can send a note saying just how she made me feel when I heard her sing.

Yeah, prolly will be lost in a pile of other good wishes....but...she deserves it.

The full article 3113 links to above notes the Scottish town where she lives and that she's a church member there. You probably could research on that close enough to have someplace to send a note.

I know how you feel. I listened to the clip five times--and teared up each time.
Trying to go cold turkey on it now.

The funny thing (for me) was that I taught a class last night about "false appearances," and made good use of this clip.

 

[Guest]

The full article 3113 links to above notes the Scottish town where she lives and that she's a church member there. You probably could research on that close enough to have someplace to send a note.

I know how you feel. I listened to the clip five times--and teared up each time.
Trying to go cold turkey on it now.

The funny thing (for me) was that I taught a class last night about "false appearances," and made good use of this clip.

Yesterday I showed the clip to each of my music classes.

A couple of kids tittered before she began but most were awed into silence.

And these are 12-14 year olds.

A good lesson, indeed.

 

[Misty_Morning]

I would love to hear her sing "Evergreen".....

ETA...Just the thought sends shivers down my spine.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I would love to hear her sing "Evergreen".....

ETA...Just though sends shivers down my spine.

She was the one who mentioned Elaine Paige so I'm love to hear her sing 'Memory' from Cats.

Elaine Paige Singing 'Memory'

 

[Misty_Morning]

She was the one who mentioned Elaine Paige so I'm love to hear her sing 'Memory' from Cats.

Elaine Paige Singing 'Memory'

When I was an undergrad...I wore out Bab's cover ....