Sexual Utopias

[jimmyjoyce]

In her Afterword to ‘The Sexual Life of Catherine M’, Catherine Millet says:

On one page of the book, I amuse myself imagining a society sufficiently tolerant for people to swap pornographic magazines with complete strangers in the same train compartment. On another page, I suggest this fantasy: fucking in a station concourse without causing offence to any passerby.

I take that as a pointer towards Catherine’s idea of a sexual utopia. I think we all probably have a utopia of some sort buried inside us – an image of a society we never expect to see, but the society we’d really like to live in.

Does anybody else have utopian fantasies?

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

My utopia would be very simple. I would own a large house on an island that is completely removed from the rest of the world. I would have unlimited funds to support the lifestyle I wanted. There would be servants who were well-paid and well-treated who lived there. I would have every film and book I could want. My fridge would stay stocked with all my favorite foods. A live-in chef would cook for me. And, I would have one lover who I shared all of my life with who understood me, cared for me, shared herself with me and never bored me. The rest of the world would not exist.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

In her Afterword to ‘The Sexual Life of Catherine M’, Catherine Millet says:

On one page of the book, I amuse myself imagining a society sufficiently tolerant for people to swap pornographic magazines with complete strangers in the same train compartment. On another page, I suggest this fantasy: fucking in a station concourse without causing offence to any passerby.

I take that as a pointer towards Catherine’s idea of a sexual utopia. I think we all probably have a utopia of some sort buried inside us – an image of a society we never expect to see, but the society we’d really like to live in.

Does anybody else have utopian fantasies?

Actually, I have one novel at Stella's for editing on that very subject and another in progress. My ideal is polyamorism with the same degree of "normality" as sitting around the dinner table with friends. See also my stories, "Lost and Redeemed", "Bells" and "Drums".

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh yes, something quite like Millet's.
Fucking in the pavement in full view of passersby, though, seems ... Well, how could lovers keep their concentration on each other, that wonderful bubble?
I'd rather that people could be fucking each other with the knowledge of their society, and that be completely accepted.

 

[jimmyjoyce]

Oh yes, something quite like Millet's.
Fucking in the pavement in full view of passersby, though, seems ... Well, how could lovers keep their concentration on each other, that wonderful bubble?
I'd rather that people could be fucking each other with the knowledge of their society, and that be completely accepted.

Millet's a bit unusual. Her preferred sexual activity, as described in the book, was to be remorselessly gang-banged by large crowds of strangers in the Bois de Boulogne. That probably gave her a rather skewed attitude to intimacy.

- But I take your point, of course.

 

[3113]

My utopia would be very simple. I would own a large house on an island that is completely removed from the rest of the world.

Um...I think the idea is a sexual utopia for the whole world not a personal sexual utopia But by all means, do go on. Is there a hot tub?

At this point, my sexual utopia (for the world) is, seriously, one where marriage laws allow just about every type of marriage partnership(s) between consenting adults, with common sense inheritance, tax and custody laws--

And where all those marriages do, indeed, occur between consenting, rational, responsible adults. If the government and religions would just keep their noses out of the bedroom AND if those in the bedroom would just be responsible adults who want consenting adult partners, I'd think that a true Utopia.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Um...I think the idea is a sexual utopia for the whole world not a personal sexual utopia But by all means, do go on. Is there a hot tub?

Indeed, LOL. I see your point. But, since I'm basically a complete misanthrope, I guess I had to go for a personal utopia. (And, yes, there's a hot tub! )

 

[Scotsman69]

Marge Piercy's 'Woman of the Edge of Time' does it for me.

 

[Jack_Samuel]

At this point, my sexual utopia (for the world) is, seriously, one where marriage laws allow just about every type of marriage partnership(s) between consenting adults, with common sense inheritance, tax and custody laws--

And where all those marriages do, indeed, occur between consenting, rational, responsible adults. If the government and religions would just keep their noses out of the bedroom AND if those in the bedroom would just be responsible adults who want consenting adult partners, I'd think that a true Utopia.

Utpoia would be simple. A place with true freedom. No Taboos, no governments or religion.

Expression of your self and feeling would be completely safe

and hot tubs would be a basic human right

 

[Liar]

Oh yes, something quite like Millet's.
Fucking in the pavement in full view of passersby, though, seems ... Well, how could lovers keep their concentration on each other, that wonderful bubble?
I'd rather that people could be fucking each other with the knowledge of their society, and that be completely accepted.

I agree. If public sex was so commonplace that nobody would even tell the entwined twain to "Jeez, get a room you guys", wouldn't that be a society where the thrill of it all kind of eroded away?

I like your idea, a society where the idea of sex is de-tabooed, but where it's still a private matter between whoever does the fucking.

I once fiddled with the idea of a SF story about a guy who has an accident and wakes up in a time or place or parrallel universe (a bit sketchy on the details) with different sexual culture. Not as in full-on debauchery and orgies in the streets - rather the opposite. Less skin in the media or ads and a bit more conservative fashion.

But instead a complete acceptance that people do have sex lives, and once you find a consenting partner (nothing complicated, just ask straight out whoever you fancy, it's not considered rude, and a 'no' would not be considered that dramatic a thing as rejection can be for people now) have at it in any way shape or forn you like - but behind closed doors. Along with this would be a complete acceptance of prostitution - there's no difference between rubbing out tense muscles as a masseur or rubbing out horny genitals as a prostitute. And a wide array of relationship forms that are all accepted in society, polygamy, all forms of lgbt, and a big percentage of marriages and steady relationships built on platonic ground, where the partners get their rocks off with other people. And sexual monogamy would be seen as an exception - fully accepted of course, it's eveyone's personal choice, but it would be unusual.

I don't know if it would specifically be my sexual utopia, but it would be fun to see how someone from here and now would react to totally different rules of engagements.

 

[3113]

I agree. If public sex was so commonplace that nobody would even tell the entwined twain to "Jeez, get a room you guys", wouldn't that be a society where the thrill of it all kind of eroded away?

Not to mention a very sticky, gooey place. I mean, would you want to eat (or be the bus boy) in restaurants where customers routinely had sex on the tables?

 

[Liar]

Not to mention a very sticky, gooey place. I mean, would you want to eat (or be the bus boy) in restaurants where customers routinely had sex on the tables?

Jizz moppers will demand a union of their own.

 

[damppanties]

Not to mention a very sticky, gooey place. I mean, would you want to eat (or be the bus boy) in restaurants where customers routinely had sex on the tables?

Sure. People wash their sheets after having sex on them, don't they? And so it shall be in Utopia. Many washings of places will happen.

If I seem a little crazed about this subject, it's because a friend of mine refused to accompany me to a strip club on my birthday and the reason she gave was -- "You don't know who's done what on those seats there!"

 

[Verdad]

I like your idea, a society where the idea of sex is de-tabooed, but where it's still a private matter between whoever does the fucking.

I not only like it, but it seems to me quite obvious that acceptance and discretion have a rather direct and positive correlation. My neighbors are entirely supported in having an atrocious taste in music, so long as they don't play it loud enough for me to hear.

Unfortunately, sometimes that's an argument used against sexual minorities, expecting of them to be 'discreet' in the ways the majority isn't expected, but it should be obvious that's not the meaning of discretion I have in mind. If anything, my aesthetic sense and psychic well-being are far more threatened by the thought of observing some relatives going at it, than by a possible sight of the most imaginative 'alternative' acts.