Pierced cats?

[WriterDom]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96DHNDG1&show_article=1

Seems cruel to me.

 

[SeraphimFalls]

I worry about the collective intelligence of the world at large.

 

[zoe8]

Hopefully they will do something about the parents that pierce their babies ears too.

 

[Etoile]

Horrible. Was hoping it was a hoax when I clicked, but it's clearly not.

IMO, baby ear piercing is not comparable to feline ear piercing. The lobe is basically just skin, you can pierce it with no ill effects, and it doesn't harm the baby's hearing, interaction with the world, etc. For a cat, there are blood vessels running all through that very thin skin (an those looked like some pretty large gauge piercings), and you can't just stick a needle through without causing damage. Also, cats use the motion of their ears to interact with the world, and also to communicate with humans and other animals. Impairing their ability to move their ears, as those piercings clearly did due to the weight, is much different than piercing a baby's ears.

And my god, the neck piercing - it's called a Madison on humans - this person was truly insane in the most literal way. I don't have words for that kind of horror. The tail's not appropriate either.

I hope this woman goes to jail for what she's done. More importantly, I hope all the cats that were subjected to this can be fully rehabbed and are no longer in pain.

 

[WriterDom]

I don't think she should go to jail. Just have her live out her life with two bowling balls attached to her labia.

 

[shewantsmore]

nothing surprises me anymore

 

[sinnocence]

I don't think she should go to jail. Just have her live out her life with two bowling balls attached to her labia.

I second that.

 

[Kitty_Schrödinger]

I don't think she should go to jail. Just have her live out her life with two bowling balls attached to her labia.

Agreed.

 

[JMohegan]

I wish more people became this incensed about factory farming.

As for the abuser of cats, I think her wages should be garnished for a decade or so. Proceeds to the Humane Society or local animal shelter.

 

[Etoile]

This is somebody selling "gothic" cats though...she's gonna LIKE the bowling balls.

 

[WriterDom]

This is somebody selling "gothic" cats though...she's gonna LIKE the bowling balls.

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm just too old. Grew up in a time when only sailors and convicts got tattoos. And the only piercing other than ears were the result of industrial accidents.

 

[Netzach]

I wish more people became this incensed about factory farming.

As for the abuser of cats, I think her wages should be garnished for a decade or so. Proceeds to the Humane Society or local animal shelter.

If you see a farm chicken and your cat as essentially the same, how one can eat meat at all eludes me. I'm not really troubled by the fact that most people have a conceptual rift between things they eat and companion animals, but rather that people are willing to eat some of the things put in front of them - meat they'd never touch if they knew what was in it. People don't even get appropriately motivated when their children have been sucking on lead toys.

As for this mild/moderate form of cat torture (not that I'm ok with it, it's just that so much worse has been done to cats) for profit, she's a dipshit and needs to feel the pinch financially, it's the only thing that seems to matter to someone like this. Life could be worse for the cats, though, they just cleaned up and had to put down a hoarded bunch of over 100 here. Cats will injure one another's ears worse in competition which a lot of people up in arms about this have no problem letting their cats get into in the neighborhood.

Frankly I think having your cat outdoors unless you live a certain amount away from roads, should be a misdemeanor. It's not good for your cat, anyone else's cat, the songbird population or the environment. This just has the distinction of being so monumentally --- stupid.

 

[zoe8]

In our area fisher cats are far more deadly to outdoor cats than cars.

 

[Netzach]

In our area fisher cats are far more deadly to outdoor cats than cars.

Those things are meeeean!

A friend of mine was hunting once and the coolest thing he ever saw was a fisher getting in their bear bait, which was a pile of stinking fish parts. It was all overjoyed and playing and rolling around. They didn't get a bear, that was the highlight, just watching it play around.

 

[zoe8]

Horrible. Was hoping it was a hoax when I clicked, but it's clearly not.

IMO, baby ear piercing is not comparable to feline ear piercing. The lobe is basically just skin, you can pierce it with no ill effects, and it doesn't harm the baby's hearing, interaction with the world, etc.

Oh I didn't mean to imply that babies would suffer as much as a cat... I suppose technically there is nothing wrong with piercing a babies ears, its just one of those things that really bugs me. And I'm a fan of piercing in general, I just assume the actual person/animal should have a say in it.

 

[WriterDom]

No one asked if they could cut on my cock when I was born. That had to hurt.

 

[JMohegan]

If you see a farm chicken and your cat as essentially the same, how one can eat meat at all eludes me. I'm not really troubled by the fact that most people have a conceptual rift between things they eat and companion animals, but rather that people are willing to eat some of the things put in front of them - meat they'd never touch if they knew what was in it. People don't even get appropriately motivated when their children have been sucking on lead toys.

Cruelty is cruelty, regardless of the species to which it is applied.

I'm a dog guy, and therefore would never eat one unless I were starving. But if we're talking about the deliberate and unnecessary infliction of pain & misery on an animal, whether for misguided economic reasons or human whim, I see no difference between dog, cow, chicken, cockatoo, hamster, or pig.

 

[Netzach]

Cruelty is cruelty, regardless of the species to which it is applied.

I'm a dog guy, and therefore would never eat one unless I were starving. But if we're talking about the deliberate and unnecessary infliction of pain & misery on an animal, whether for misguided economic reasons or human whim, I see no difference between dog, cow, chicken, cockatoo, hamster, or pig.

So the humane removal by clean shot of a wolf individual who's a potential threat in some manner versus running them down in planes till their hearts rupture cause it's some twisted fuck's idea of fun is the kinda thing you mean.

I don't think meat can be done in a way completely devoid of cruelty, because snuffing out the life of something so I can have more protein than I need isn't exactly just or cool for said animal. But the amount of suffering and the amount of misery can be limited. But it doesn't mean I need to embrace Wilbur my breakfast bacon to be as I would a friends' potbellied pet.

Resulting things tend to taste better anyway.

Fishing for sport gives me the willies, frankly. I'm always glad whatever I had on the line shook itself off, because I have a huge "and THEN WHAT?" fear. I don't like the idea of putting hooks through the face of something that may be 10 years old for fun. Shooting bambi troubles me less, personally.

 

[BiBunny]

I know this won't be very popular, but whatever.

Was it stupid? Yes. Was it really this horrible, cruel crime? No. Should she be smacked upside the head repeatedly with a 2 x 4? Probably.

I have cats, but most of my experience with animals is with horses. What confuzzles me to no end is how something like this can get attention and outrage, but I can think off the top of my head of no less than three different places in my tiny hometown where horses are starving to death. And no one gives a shit.

You can call the police, the animal welfare people, whatever. What do they say? "As long as there's food out there, there's nothing we can do." Bullshit. They're still starving.

You can try to talk nicely with the owners and either buy the horses (which they won't sell, of course) or offer help with them (which they refuse). What is there left to do? Steal them and get carted off to jail for trying to help, or just sit back and watch them die. So you just keep reporting it, make yourself a nuisance, and hope maybe something will happen one day.

It's not just here, either. I post on horse message boards, and it appears to be the same old story everywhere. Nobody wants to get involved, even if it's their JOB to get involved.

I think we should be focusing our efforts against animal cruelty in this country onto things that are far worse than a few barbells shoved into cats' ears and other areas. I mean, ok, it probably hurt, but they'll probably be none the worse for the wear.

It's just outlandish and stupid enough to get attention and make people think "oh, they're doing such a good job against animal cruelty." On a scale of animal suffering, I believe this one ranks way, way, way down the list. And I think we should use our resources to combat things that are much farther up the list. Maybe then, one day, something like this WOULD be the most cruel thing anyone was doing to animal, and we'd have a reason for the outrage.

Oh, would that cat ear-piercing ever be the worst thing that ever happened to some poor animal.

 

[Netzach]

I know this won't be very popular, but whatever.

Was it stupid? Yes. Was it really this horrible, cruel crime? No. Should she be smacked upside the head repeatedly with a 2 x 4? Probably.

I have cats, but most of my experience with animals is with horses. What confuzzles me to no end is how something like this can get attention and outrage, but I can think off the top of my head of no less than three different places in my tiny hometown where horses are starving to death. And no one gives a shit.

You can call the police, the animal welfare people, whatever. What do they say? "As long as there's food out there, there's nothing we can do." Bullshit. They're still starving.

You can try to talk nicely with the owners and either buy the horses (which they won't sell, of course) or offer help with them (which they refuse). What is there left to do? Steal them and get carted off to jail for trying to help, or just sit back and watch them die. So you just keep reporting it, make yourself a nuisance, and hope maybe something will happen one day.

It's not just here, either. I post on horse message boards, and it appears to be the same old story everywhere. Nobody wants to get involved, even if it's their JOB to get involved.

I think we should be focusing our efforts against animal cruelty in this country onto things that are far worse than a few barbells shoved into cats' ears and other areas. I mean, ok, it probably hurt, but they'll probably be none the worse for the wear.

It's just outlandish and stupid enough to get attention and make people think "oh, they're doing such a good job against animal cruelty." On a scale of animal suffering, I believe this one ranks way, way, way down the list. And I think we should use our resources to combat things that are much farther up the list. Maybe then, one day, something like this WOULD be the most cruel thing anyone was doing to animal, and we'd have a reason for the outrage.

Oh, would that cat ear-piercing ever be the worst thing that ever happened to some poor animal.

Exactly. Agree wholeheartedly. Like I said, they just pulled 140 cats out of a house here and had to put them all down because they were so diseased, asocial, and injured that there was no hope of rehab. I can't even imagine what this scene must have looked like. It's *very* bad for horses now, I know the equine rescues are totally overextended. Shouldn't there be some kind of licensing test to own a horse? It seems like anyone can plunk down 1 grand and have absolutely no idea what to do from there.

And there are nevending supplies of human dumbasses out there.

My neighbors keep their mini pinschers out WAY longer than I would in the -15 and the +99 They have no fur, you idiots. I'm always within a second of calling animal control on them - the dogs are fed, chained, collared in little pink collars, and clean but these people are just DUMB - they're bouncing around to stay warm, they're bouncing around to try and get back in and about to plotz from heatstroke. Maybe I should make sweaters and build a doghouse. I have put out water and knocked on the door when the summer's gotten dangerous.

Let's not even get into red tailed hawks, local children wandering around, and I'm SURE some people looking for bait dogs for their fighting pitties.

I may be a cat person but people who keep dogs as lawn ornaments are my biggest local annoyance. And people defend this behavior to the death "oh they love it outside"

 

[JMohegan]

So the humane removal by clean shot of a wolf individual who's a potential threat in some manner versus running them down in planes till their hearts rupture cause it's some twisted fuck's idea of fun is the kinda thing you mean.

I don't think meat can be done in a way completely devoid of cruelty, because snuffing out the life of something so I can have more protein than I need isn't exactly just. But the amount of suffering and the amount of misery can be limited.

And tastes better, too.

I'm talking about the deliberate and unnecessary infliction of pain & misery on animals.

Factory farms are not necessary, because there are more humane alternatives that (from a nutrition perspective) achieve even better results. Limit the suffering is what I'm saying, yes.

As for wolves, if the "potential threat" is "it will take Alaskan tourists longer than 10 minutes to find caribou," then I don't think they should be shot at all. The governor, on the other hand.....

Just kidding with that last part.

 

[zoe8]

My sister inlaws neighbor had horses for a month this summer. I guess they were just watching them for someone. Just one day they were there in this tiny little electric fenced area with two horses in it. No food, no water and no shelter. I'm not a horse person... but it didn't look like a good situation.

We called the local police and animal people and they said there was nothing they could do about it. We made a point of being visible when we brought the horses some apples and carrots. I noticed there was a thing of water the next day, but they never put out any food. They just had to eat the scrubby grass that was there. And they never had the choice of going inside.

We were all kind of shocked that no one even cared.

 

[JMohegan]

I know this won't be very popular, but whatever.

Was it stupid? Yes. Was it really this horrible, cruel crime? No. Should she be smacked upside the head repeatedly with a 2 x 4? Probably.

I have cats, but most of my experience with animals is with horses. What confuzzles me to no end is how something like this can get attention and outrage, but I can think off the top of my head of no less than three different places in my tiny hometown where horses are starving to death. And no one gives a shit.

You can call the police, the animal welfare people, whatever. What do they say? "As long as there's food out there, there's nothing we can do." Bullshit. They're still starving.

You can try to talk nicely with the owners and either buy the horses (which they won't sell, of course) or offer help with them (which they refuse). What is there left to do? Steal them and get carted off to jail for trying to help, or just sit back and watch them die. So you just keep reporting it, make yourself a nuisance, and hope maybe something will happen one day.

It's not just here, either. I post on horse message boards, and it appears to be the same old story everywhere. Nobody wants to get involved, even if it's their JOB to get involved.

I think we should be focusing our efforts against animal cruelty in this country onto things that are far worse than a few barbells shoved into cats' ears and other areas. I mean, ok, it probably hurt, but they'll probably be none the worse for the wear.

It's just outlandish and stupid enough to get attention and make people think "oh, they're doing such a good job against animal cruelty." On a scale of animal suffering, I believe this one ranks way, way, way down the list. And I think we should use our resources to combat things that are much farther up the list. Maybe then, one day, something like this WOULD be the most cruel thing anyone was doing to animal, and we'd have a reason for the outrage.

Oh, would that cat ear-piercing ever be the worst thing that ever happened to some poor animal.

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[BiBunny]

Exactly. Agree wholeheartedly. Like I said, they just pulled 140 cats out of a house here and had to put them all down because they were so diseased, asocial, and injured that there was no hope of rehab. I can't even imagine what this scene must have looked like.

It makes you wonder why no one ever intervened before, doesn't it? Ridiculous, and very, very sad.

It's *very* bad for horses now, I know the equine rescues are totally overextended.

It's been going to hell ever since horse slaughter was outlawed in this country. Maybe it was a questionable practice, but damn. Now they're just shipping them to Mexico, where it's much more questionable, and definitely lengthens the poor animals' suffering.

I've a friend from a message board who runs a horse rescue over in Georgia. My God. I don't even have words for it. Between the end of horse slaughter and the collapse of the economy...it's been bad. There should be way more resources available for people like her. She's doing God's work.

And there are nevending supplies of human dumbasses out there. My neighbors keep their mini pinschers out WAY longer than I would in the -15 and the +99 They have no fur, you idiots. I'm always within a second of calling animal control on them - the dogs are fed, chained, collared in little pink collars, and clean but these people are just DUMB. Maybe I should make sweaters.

I may be a cat person but people who keep dogs as lawn ornaments are my biggest local annoyance.

OMG, yes. I think people who own dogs (not to be confused with dog people) are even dumber than people who own horses (not to be confused with horse people).

 

[BiBunny]

My sister inlaws neighbor had horses for a month this summer. I guess they were just watching them for someone. Just one day they were there in this tiny little electric fenced area with two horses in it. No food, no water and no shelter. I'm not a horse person... but it didn't look like a good situation.

We called the local police and animal people and they said there was nothing they could do about it. We made a point of being visible when we brought the horses some apples and carrots. I noticed there was a thing of water the next day, but they never put out any food. They just had to eat the scrubby grass that was there. And they never had the choice of going inside.

We were all kind of shocked that no one even cared.

Disgusting. But I know exactly what you're talking about. I've almost decided that the police and animal people don't know any more about horses than the people who own them most of the time, and rather than admit their ignorance and find a knowledgeable person to take a look, they just say there's nothing they can do.

It happens all the time, though. Horses, dogs, cats, whatever. No one gives a shit, and it's horrible. Articles like in the OP don't make me think, "Oh, they're doing such a good job." They make me think, "If y'all can arrest someone for that, why the hell can't y'all arrest someone for starving animals, or beating them, or allowing them to freeze outside, or not taking care of huge wounds on their bodies, or letting them die from some horrible illness because you can't afford the vet and don't have the balls to take them around back and shoot them to end their suffering?"

OMG, I'm ranting. I'm so sorry.

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