Globalism means America must adopt China's wages and working conditions to compete

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This is why we're losing manufacturing jobs to China:

super low wages, and neglected/nightmarish working conditions...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10164325-92.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0

February 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST
Tech coalition launches sweatshop probe

by Tom Espiner

A tech industry watchdog plans to investigate conditions at a Chinese hardware factory that supplies IBM, Microsoft, Dell, Lenovo and Hewlett-Packard, following a damning report on conditions there by a human-rights organization.

The National Labor Committee report, "High Tech Misery in China," said these tech giants use Meitai Plastic and Electronics, a keyboard supplier that operates a factory that "dehumanizes young workers."

In response, the Electronic Industry Citizenship Coalition (EICC), a self-regulating body set up by tech companies, will carry out a third-party audit into the working conditions at the factory, IBM told ZDNet UK on Friday.

"Through the Electronic Industry Citizenship Coalition, of which IBM is a founding member, a joint-audit is being conducted to assemble the facts and address this issue with the supplier or suppliers involved," an IBM representative said in an e-mailed statement. Microsoft, Dell, Lenovo, and HP are also members of the coalition.

The report by the National Labor Committee, a human-rights group based in Pittsburgh, covers the work environment in the Meitai Plastic and Electronics factory in Dongguan City, Guangdong, China. According to the report, released this month, workers sit on hard wooden stools for 12-hour shifts, seven days a week. Overtime is mandatory, with workers being given on average two days off per month.

The report also said that while workers are on the production line, they are not allowed to raise their hands or their heads, and they are given 1.1 seconds to snap each key into place. Workers are prohibited from talking or listening to music and are encouraged "actively monitor each other" to see if any of the multiple company rules are being transgressed. They are also monitored by guards, according to the report.

It also found that workers are fined if they break the rules, that they are locked in the factory for four days per week, and that they sleep in crowded dormitories. The workers' gross wage is 64 cents per hour, which the report claims "does not even come close to meeting subsistence level needs," while their take-home pay is 41 cents per hour.

Report co-author Charles Kernaghan, who is co-director of the National Labor Committee, questioned whether the EICC probe would be effective.

"It's excellent (that there will be an investigation). But the fact that they've announced the date, of February the 23 and 24, guarantees the investigation will be compromised," Kernaghan told ZDNet UK on Friday. "It gives the factory time to threaten the workers, who will be coerced and terrified."

Kernaghan called on Lenovo to put pressure on the Chinese government to improve working conditions. "Lenovo is very important," he said. "As a Chinese company, they have the power and the right to approach the Chinese government and demand that labor laws be enforced."

Lenovo told ZDNet UK that it is involved in the investigation as a member of EICC, but that it does not purchase supplies directly from the Meitai facility.

"Lenovo makes every effort possible to investigate and ensure that our suppliers adhere to and comply with accepted international manufacturing standards and labor practices and takes these matters very seriously," it said in a statement.

In addition, Lenovo said it will call on its intermediate supplier to investigate the facility to verify the findings of the report and "help identify corrective actions." HP said that it will wait until the results of the EICC audit until taking action.

"The factory named in the report is not one of HP's direct suppliers, but is a supplier to two of our suppliers," the company said in a statement. "HP will audit this facility through a validated industry audit. Based on the results of the audit, we will work together with our supplier to develop corrective actions where appropriate."

Microsoft and Dell had not responded to a request for comment at the time of writing.

Tom Espiner of ZDNet UK reports from London.
 
This is why we're losing manufacturing jobs to China:

super low wages, and neglected/nightmarish working conditions...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10164325-92.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0

February 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST
Tech coalition launches sweatshop probe

by Tom Espiner

A tech industry watchdog plans to investigate conditions at a Chinese hardware factory that supplies IBM, Microsoft, Dell, Lenovo and Hewlett-Packard, following a damning report on conditions there by a human-rights organization.

The National Labor Committee report, "High Tech Misery in China," said these tech giants use Meitai Plastic and Electronics, a keyboard supplier that operates a factory that "dehumanizes young workers."

In response, the Electronic Industry Citizenship Coalition (EICC), a self-regulating body set up by tech companies, will carry out a third-party audit into the working conditions at the factory, IBM told ZDNet UK on Friday.

"Through the Electronic Industry Citizenship Coalition, of which IBM is a founding member, a joint-audit is being conducted to assemble the facts and address this issue with the supplier or suppliers involved," an IBM representative said in an e-mailed statement. Microsoft, Dell, Lenovo, and HP are also members of the coalition.

The report by the National Labor Committee, a human-rights group based in Pittsburgh, covers the work environment in the Meitai Plastic and Electronics factory in Dongguan City, Guangdong, China. According to the report, released this month, workers sit on hard wooden stools for 12-hour shifts, seven days a week. Overtime is mandatory, with workers being given on average two days off per month.

The report also said that while workers are on the production line, they are not allowed to raise their hands or their heads, and they are given 1.1 seconds to snap each key into place. Workers are prohibited from talking or listening to music and are encouraged "actively monitor each other" to see if any of the multiple company rules are being transgressed. They are also monitored by guards, according to the report.

It also found that workers are fined if they break the rules, that they are locked in the factory for four days per week, and that they sleep in crowded dormitories. The workers' gross wage is 64 cents per hour, which the report claims "does not even come close to meeting subsistence level needs," while their take-home pay is 41 cents per hour.

Report co-author Charles Kernaghan, who is co-director of the National Labor Committee, questioned whether the EICC probe would be effective.

"It's excellent (that there will be an investigation). But the fact that they've announced the date, of February the 23 and 24, guarantees the investigation will be compromised," Kernaghan told ZDNet UK on Friday. "It gives the factory time to threaten the workers, who will be coerced and terrified."

Kernaghan called on Lenovo to put pressure on the Chinese government to improve working conditions. "Lenovo is very important," he said. "As a Chinese company, they have the power and the right to approach the Chinese government and demand that labor laws be enforced."

Lenovo told ZDNet UK that it is involved in the investigation as a member of EICC, but that it does not purchase supplies directly from the Meitai facility.

"Lenovo makes every effort possible to investigate and ensure that our suppliers adhere to and comply with accepted international manufacturing standards and labor practices and takes these matters very seriously," it said in a statement.

In addition, Lenovo said it will call on its intermediate supplier to investigate the facility to verify the findings of the report and "help identify corrective actions." HP said that it will wait until the results of the EICC audit until taking action.

"The factory named in the report is not one of HP's direct suppliers, but is a supplier to two of our suppliers," the company said in a statement. "HP will audit this facility through a validated industry audit. Based on the results of the audit, we will work together with our supplier to develop corrective actions where appropriate."

Microsoft and Dell had not responded to a request for comment at the time of writing.

Tom Espiner of ZDNet UK reports from London.

100% true (the content, not the thread-head).
 
Yeah. All the unhappy ones met their fate at the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

One thing you're told going into China is to obey the laws without question and if the police tell you to do something you damn well better do it and do it right fucking now or you may not be seen again for a while. Needless to say they don't get much flak from people.
It works for them.
 
100% true (the content, not the thread-head).


Agreed.

The world's manufacturing usually accommodates America's disposable income.

The world has grown accustomed to the US and its lavish spending and instead of saving for a rainy day (fucking monsoon) they squabbled it away and are hurting with everyone else.
 
China is a perfect example of unrestrained capitalism. Sure, they have record GDP growth. But at what costs?

They live in a poison soup! They sell poison milk to give to their kids! They are a massive contributor to climate change.

Oh well...can't beat 'em , so might as well join 'em attitude?
 
China is a perfect example of unrestrained capitalism. Sure, they have record GDP growth. But at what costs?

They live in a poison soup! They sell poison milk to give to their kids! They are a massive contributor to climate change.

Oh well...can't beat 'em , so might as well join 'em attitude?

Unrestrained capitalism? Yeah, right.
 
China is a perfect example of unrestrained capitalism. Sure, they have record GDP growth. But at what costs?

They live in a poison soup! They sell poison milk to give to their kids! They are a massive contributor to climate change.

Oh well...can't beat 'em , so might as well join 'em attitude?
If you believe in globalism, free trade and capitalism, the most logical solution is to join them.

Republotards like Ham Murabi can't be arsed to answer complex questions like how you can call it 'free trade' when capital is mobile but labor isn't. His brain probably exploded at "capital is mobile". Smell the bacon.
 
What would you call selling poisoned milk for profits? Or creating huge industrial pollution resulting in mass misery of the population for profits?

Is someone getting away with selling poisoned milk? Fuck, they ought to name the country Melamine.
The country has low standards. That's a price China's political leaders are willing to pay in regard to air and water quality and worker safety.
 
Is someone getting away with selling poisoned milk? Fuck, they ought to name the country Melamine.
The country has low standards. That's a price China's political leaders are willing to pay in regard to air and water quality and worker safety.

Ahhh..."standards"...that means (Oh No!) "Government Intervention" in the form of rules, regulations, inspections, etc.

:p

There must be a balance...
 
Ahhh..."standards"...that means (Oh No!) "Government Intervention" in the form of rules, regulations, inspections, etc.

:p

There must be a balance...
Ham Fisted is dancing around the issue. He would have America adopt China's pollution and workplace standards.

He's always bitching about environmental laws and I'm sure you remember his rants about OSHA.
 
Ham Fisted is dancing around the issue. He would have America adopt China's pollution and workplace standards.

He's always bitching about environmental laws and I'm sure you remember his rants about OSHA.
Rants, bitching? I think you've got the wrong fellow there.

Maybe you can pull up some links. Not links to your rants or bitching, but his.
 
Rants, bitching? I think you've got the wrong fellow there.

Maybe you can pull up some links. Not links to your rants or bitching, but his.
Couldn't come up with anything?

Or do you just ignore it when you're proved to be a liar?
 
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