Why Palin won't be back in four years

[Wok]

I have. Nasty things.
I can tell the difference between good and bad though and Cubans are not what they are made out to be.

Cuban cigars taste better with an embargo additive.

 

[KRCummings]

I been to Cuba but still know very little about it.

BTW I'm an asshole not ignorant.

You'll have to excuse KK. He's an idiot who's biggest talents are C&P'ing and paraphrasing others to make it sound like his own.

 

[pointless]

I have. Nasty things.
I can tell the difference between good and bad though and Cubans are not what they are made out to be.

neither is cocaine, but it's still expensive and a certain status is attached to the ability to aquire it in some circles. there's a connection there that should be fairly obvious.

 

[BatShitKrazy]

I have. Nasty things.
I can tell the difference between good and bad though and Cubans are not what they are made out to be.

LOL you got me. They are rancid. I dare you though to disparage Havanas.

 

[KRCummings]

neither is cocaine, but it's still expensive and a certain status is attached to the ability to aquire it in some circles. there's a connection there that should be fairly obvious.

Like Wok said they taste better with that embargo additive and you're right, it's similar to cocaine. It's not how good it is but the fact that you can get it.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Yes and no. McCain's failure was nothing more than his failing to be Republican enough. He supported the Bush big-government and spending agenda, etc. The country has not shifted to the left in that sense. The Republicans simply lost control of their brand. Look for a new "contract for America" type conservatism to appear over the next few cycles.

Bush's spending increases in education and health care were popular with the voters. John McCain lost the election because most Americans did not benefit from the Bush economy, because the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are still going on, and because McCain did not convince the American people that he could do a better job pursuing essentially the same policies as a president who is generally acknowledged to be one of the worst in U.S. history.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Their medical system, by Latin American standards is sufficient. What Cuba lacks in terms of so-called "modern" technology is balanced by the large number of every-day doctors available to consumers.

Cuba's literacy rate is higher than that of the United States.

However, the standard of living in Cuba is horrible. Children don't get enough calcium for their bones to develop. Whenever we would go back and forth to Cuba, we would always bring jars and jars of "TUMS" -- fruit flavored -- and give them to people. One fellow gave a box of TUMS jars to his apartment building leader who distributed one tablet each day to each child as they left the building to go to school. There isn't enough protein in the Cuban people's diet. No, there aren't starving people lining the streets as one might find overseas, but to compare favorably the living standard of Cubans with the other peoples of Latin America exhibits either dishonesty or a profound lack of understanding of the facts.

According to the Gallup World Poll I quoted earlier, in 2006 the median monthly per capita income in Mexico was $98 dollars a month. That was $19 lower than in Cuba. If the economic embargo on Cuba is lifted by President Obama I am confident that the difference between the standard of living for the Cubans and the Mexicans will become even greater.

 

[pointless]

Like Wok said they taste better with that embargo additive and you're right, it's similar to cocaine. It's not how good it is but the fact that you can get it.

i didn't see his post until after i posted, but exactly.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Bush's spending increases in education and health care were popular with the voters. John McCain lost the election because most Americans did not benefit from the Bush economy, because the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are still going on, and because McCain did not convince the American people that he could do a better job pursuing essentially the same policies as a president who is generally acknowledged to be one of the worst in U.S. history.

Well, I can't really argue with much of that. Parts aren't really that true, but for the most part, McCain wandered too far from the conservative base to distinguish himself from Bush. If you want a big-government social-spending president, why not go for the real thing? Something like that.

 

[Wok]

Well, I can't really argue with much of that. Parts aren't really that true, but for the most part, McCain wandered too far from the conservative base to distinguish himself from Bush. If you want a big-government social-spending president, why not go for the real thing? Something like that.

And conservatives everywhere were not happy with the McCain nom. I often wonder how he got the nod when the base hated him so much?

 

[Sean]

And conservatives everywhere were not happy with the McCain nom. I often wonder how he got the nod when the base hated him so much?

Precisely because he was so far away. It was felt that the centre would see him as a non Rep Rep and Conservatives would vote for Reps over a Northern Liberal black dude anyway.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Well, I can't really argue with much of that. Parts aren't really that true, but for the most part, McCain wandered too far from the conservative base to distinguish himself from Bush. If you want a big-government social-spending president, why not go for the real thing? Something like that.

Although tax cuts are popular, genuine cuts in domestic spending never are, except for welfare. Ever since Barry Goldwater's failed 1964 campaign Republican politicians have had to learn that again and again.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Although tax cuts are popular, genuine cuts in domestic spending never are, except for welfare. Ever since Barry Goldwater's failed 1964 campaign Republican politicians have had to learn that again and again.

Except that Reagan drew support from both parties.

 

[Wok]

Precisely because he was so far away. It was felt that the centre would see him as a non Rep Rep and Conservatives would vote for Reps over a Northern Liberal black dude anyway.

I see. On conservative talk radio, I heard the moanings of McCain until the Palin pick. All eyes were set on Palin and forgot about McCain. One of the most vocal was Mark Levin on just how horrid McCain was for the hawkish base.

 

[MeeMie]

And conservatives everywhere were not happy with the McCain nom. I often wonder how he got the nod when the base hated him so much?

Democrats and Independents voting in the Republican primary.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Except that Reagan drew support from both parties.

In his book, The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed David Stockman made it clear that it was never possible to cut taxes, raise military spending, and balance the budget by 1984 like Reagan promised to do during the 1980 campaign without eliminating farm and business subsidies, and without making major cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and military pensions. He also made it clear that Reagan did not propose those cuts because he knew that most of the people who voted for him would have opposed them.

David Stockman was President Reagan's Director of the Office of Management and Budget (1981–1985). In his book he reveals that Reagan's economic policies were fraudulent.

 

[Powertone]

At least they would have health care.

at the high price of being a prisoner of Fidel and Raul for life.

 

[Sean]

Democrats and Independents voting in the Republican primary.

How many of the Republican primaries were open?

 

[The_Trouvere]

at the high price of being a prisoner of Fidel and Raul for life.

In his memoirs, Mandate for Change, President Eisenhower admitted that his advisers told him 80% of the Vietnamese supported Ho Chi Minh. I suspect that support for Fidel Castro is nearly as high, although I cannot verify it with a link to a recent opinion survey.

Years ago I watched Castro be interviewed by an American journalist. The journalist mentioned the Cubans who flee in boats for the United States. Castro replied that the percentage of Cubans doing that is lower than the percentage of Mexicans immigrating to the United States, even though all of the Cubans are legal immigrants to the United States, and most of the Mexicans are not.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Well, I can't really argue with much of that. Parts aren't really that true, but for the most part, McCain wandered too far from the conservative base to distinguish himself from Bush. If you want a big-government social-spending president, why not go for the real thing? Something like that.

What, you think somebody like Ron Paul would have won the election if he had got the nomination? Undeceive yourself. It would have been astonishing if he did better than Goldwater in '64.

 

[Powertone]

Years ago I watched Castro be interviewed by an American journalist. The journalist mentioned the Cubans who flee in boats for the United States. Castro replied that the percentage of Cubans doing is is lower than the percentage of Mexicans immigrating to the United States, even though all of the Cubans are legal immigrants to the United States, and most of the Mexicans are not.

I guess having to cross 90 miles of ocean on a raft could be daunting versus walking across the Rio Grande River.

And those legal Cubans...ya mean the ones that fled Cuba when Fidel overthrew the government or do you mean the ones that sought asylum when they came over with a group,etc., and decided not to return?

I hear Elian Gonzalez is doing quite well however thanks to the Clinton Administration's heroic efforts to return him home after his mommy drowned attempting to give him a better life here.

 

[Karen Kraft]

In his book, The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed David Stockman made it clear that it was never possible to cut taxes, raise military spending, and balance the budget by 1984 like Reagan promised to do during the 1980 campaign without eliminating farm and business subsidies, and without making major cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and military pensions. He also made it clear that Reagan did not propose those cuts because he knew that most of the people who voted for him would have opposed them.

David Stockman was President Reagan's Director of the Office of Management and Budget (1981–1985). In his book he reveals that Reagan's economic policies were fraudulent.

Which, of course, made everyone long for the glory days of his predecessor.

 

[Karen Kraft]

What, you think somebody like Ron Paul would have won the election if he had got the nomination? Undeceive yourself. It would have been astonishing if he did better than Goldwater in '64.

I know absolutely nothing about Ron Paul -- except that there was, and still is -- a huge sign on Interstate 15 - between Las Vegas and Los Angeles with his name on it ... and a big flag.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I know absolutely nothing about Ron Paul -- except that there was, and still is -- a huge sign on Interstate 15 - between Las Vegas and Los Angeles with his name on it ... and a big flag.

From what I know of the West, doesn't surprise me one bit. Goldwater himself came from Arizona.

Ron Paul.

 

[Karen Kraft]

From what I know of the West, doesn't surprise me one bit. Goldwater himself came from Arizona.

Ron Paul.

Okay. I clicked on the link and I have now quadrupled by knowledge of the man.

All I know is that, during a primary debate, he rang my creep chimes by the way he looked and talked.