Why Palin won't be back in four years

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[MoeDick]

The republicans need to get back to a conservative base and we need another Regan and maybe Palin is that person.

 

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[KRCummings]

Yet Castro had to come here to have his sphincter tightened (I make no assumptions here) in the 70s, and had to go to Venezuela for his cancer treatment. I have little respect for the UN or Wiki when it comes to an honest assessment of anything Communist.

Procedures differ from place to place. Americans go to other countries for specialized procedures all the time and other citizens come here. It has no bearing on the overall condition of any one countries health care system.
Fact is that Cubans get good, free health care. It's just the way it is. It doesn't matter what government they have or what relationship they have with the US. It's meaningless in terms of health care. Just because they are communist/socialist doesn't mean they don't have good doctors. Really has nothing to do with it.

 

[BatShitKrazy]

Procedures differ from place to place. Americans go to other countries for specialized procedures all the time and other citizens come here. It has no bearing on the overall condition of any one countries health care system.
Fact is that Cubans get good, free health care. It's just the way it is. It doesn't matter what government they have or what relationship they have with the US. It's meaningless in terms of health care. Just because they are communist/socialist doesn't mean they don't have good doctors. Really has nothing to do with it.

I like the cigars.

Cuban chicks are great fucks.

 

[The_Trouvere]

I have little respect for the UN or Wiki when it comes to an honest assessment of anything Communist.

That's because you don't like for your prejudices to be disturbed.

 

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my name is sarah palin you all know me
vice president nominee of the gop
gonna need your vote in the next election
can i get a ‘what what’ from the senior section
mccain got experience, mccain got style
but don’t let him freak you out when he tries to smile
cause that smile be creepy
but when i be vp
all the leaders in the world gonna finally meet me

how’s it go eskimo
(eskimos)
tell me what you know eskimo
(eskimos)
how you feel eskimo
(ice cold)
tell me tell me what you feel eskimo
(super cold)

i’m jeremiah wright cause tonight i’m the preacha
i got a bookish look and you’re all hot for teacha
todd lookin fine on his snow machine
so hot boy gonna need a go between
in wasilla we just chill baby chilla
but when i see oil lets drill baby drill

my country tis a thee
from my porch i can see
russia and such

all the mavericks in the house put your hands up
all the mavericks in the house put your hands up
all the plumbers in the house pull your pants up
all the plumbers in the house pull your pants up

when i say ‘obama’ you say ‘ayers’
obama. (ayers) obama (ayers)
i built me a bridge - it ain’t goin’ nowhere.
(ohhh)

mccain, palin, gonna put the nail in the coffin
of the media elite
(she likes red meat)
shoot a mother-humpin moose, eight days of the week

[three gunshots]
now ya dead, now ya dead,
cause i’m an animal, and i’m bigger than you
holdin a shotgun walk in the pub
everybody party, we’re goin on a hunt
la la la la la la la la
[six gunshots]

yo i’m palin, i’m out!

 

[KRCummings]

I like the cigars.

Cuban chicks are great fucks.

Cuban cigars are arguably the most overrated product in the world.

 

[KingOrfeo]

They are in fact cowards, they fear any voice but their own, they fear free choice, they are about forcing their opponents out of the market place of ideas. They are the enemies of our individual freedom.

KellysCrack was talking about physical courage, which many leftists have demonstrated over the past 200 years . . . but, based on the way you seem to be interpreting the word, yes, you're a fool. Worse than a fool . . . I'm always astonished at these RW posts that are not merely detached from reality but an inversion of reality, as if they come from some alternate Earth where the politicians have the same names but everything else is bizarro.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Procedures differ from place to place. Americans go to other countries for specialized procedures all the time and other citizens come here. It has no bearing on the overall condition of any one countries health care system.
Fact is that Cubans get good, free health care. It's just the way it is. It doesn't matter what government they have or what relationship they have with the US. It's meaningless in terms of health care. Just because they are communist/socialist doesn't mean they don't have good doctors. Really has nothing to do with it.

In fact, they have the best medical schools (and the only pharmaceutical industry doing original research) in Latin America. A couple of years ago Castro worked out a deal with Chavez where Venezuela supplies Cuba with oil and Cuba supplies Venezuela with doctors.

 

[Karen Kraft]

He probably believes their Party line about the superiority of their communist medical system as well.

Their medical system, by Latin American standards is sufficient. What Cuba lacks in terms of so-called "modern" technology is balanced by the large number of every-day doctors available to consumers.

Cuba's literacy rate is higher than that of the United States.

However, the standard of living in Cuba is horrible. Children don't get enough calcium for their bones to develop. Whenever we would go back and forth to Cuba, we would always bring jars and jars of "TUMS" -- fruit flavored -- and give them to people. One fellow gave a box of TUMS jars to his apartment building leader who distributed one tablet each day to each child as they left the building to go to school. There isn't enough protein in the Cuban people's diet. No, there aren't starving people lining the streets as one might find overseas, but to compare favorably the living standard of Cubans with the other peoples of Latin America exhibits either dishonesty or a profound lack of understanding of the facts.

 

[Karen Kraft]

You're a fool if you think liberals and leftists are cowards. You're evil if you're "God-fearing" -- at least in this culture, where the phrase implies loyalty to a particularly evil abomination of a God. (Who made Hell? Hint: It wasn't Satan.)

Slack-jaw knee-jerk communist reaction: People who disagree with me are EVIL.

Says it all.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Fascinating article by Jordana Timerman in The Nation almost a year ago:

When I traveled the country one year ago, Cubans were just beginning to think about a world after Fidel, after the Communist leader fell seriously ill in 2006 and world media pundits waited to run his obituaries. I had gone to Cuba, visiting the major cities and many of the towns that dot the island of some 11.4 million inhabitants, chasing a myth. For the US and Latin American left, Cuba exerts a fascinating appeal as the sole revolutionary success in a region historically battered by military dictatorships and economic crises. Growing up in Argentina, adolescent all-night conversations with my friends about our country's dismal situation always ended with a comparison to the beauty of Cuban revolutionary ideals. Soccer fans emblazon Che Guevara's image on their flags, and university intellectuals angrily defend the Cuban example. Yet, there is much to criticize, especially in terms of human rights and political repression. The island represents an uncomfortable nexus between an attempt at a more equitable society and the excesses of an undemocratic regime.

"The worst problems we have are food, transportation and housing," said a blue-shirted clerk at a rations store just outside of Havana. As he spoke he also measured out the week's ration of crackers for neighborhood women coming in one afternoon. He deftly put the plastic bags they brought with them on a scale and scooped in the appropriate portion of hard, round crackers, later checking off the appropriate slot on their ration booklets.

He explained very carefully the economic conundrum faced by most Cubans: "We get a basic food basket, and that's very subsidized. It's supposed to last a month, but it can't, it lasts two weeks. So people have to get a little more, like at a farmers market or elsewhere. But that's more expensive. You have to find a way, invent something."

Behind the clerk, samples of items covered by the ration booklet, labeled with the negligible cost and how often families are entitled to each item, sat forlornly on the shelf: a cup of rice, one of beans, a carton of cigarettes, a bar of soap.

Asked about Castro's eventual death, the clerk furrowed his brow. "I'm 42, I've never had another leader. I don't know what happens," he said with a shrug. And it is difficult for anybody to really know, he said. "There's no free press here, you know." And there can be no opposition "because there is only one party, and you have to do what they say, or else they make you disappear." But one of the shriveled old women buying her rations interjects. "I saw what it was like before," she said, showing her toothless gums and shaking her scarf-covered head. "I don't want anything to change."

<snip>

"Most leaders here have no idea what they're leading. It's the same to them if the bread gets here at six in the morning or at nine," an engineer said to me one night while repairing the fridge. We were chatting with other acquaintances in the indoor patio of a colonial-style house in Sancti Spiritus, a sleepy provincial capital outside of the tourist beach circuit. Flies buzzed around scraps in the adjoining kitchen as we drank endless rounds of sugared coffee. The engineer, in his early 30s, had heavy bags under his eyes from working late hours as a repairman to make ends meet. "The Cuban system is good. We lack sophistication, but it's good."

A surgeon, dropping by for a family visit, partially agreed. He knew about the world that existed off-island, having traveled several times to Mexico and Spain for medical conferences, and he saw little benefit in becoming more like them. He sees little benefit to certain types of political freedom. When I asked this group of educated and engaged men if they desire political change, they all stopped mid-sentence to stare at me, as if I had lost my mind. As if I hadn't understood what they just told me. The illusion of individual power to effect, held dear in liberal democracies, is missing here. Change is something some wait for anxiously, while others expect none or dread the idea--but should things change, it will be something done to people, not by people.

A drunk friend soon stumbles into the room, waving his Communist membership card under my nose and asking me if anything "outside" could possibly equal the marvels of the Cuban system. And with that, the political conversation was over.

 

[Karen Kraft]

According to the Gallup World Poll in 2006 the median monthly per capita income in Latin America was $118, in terms of U.S. dollars. For Argentina it was $184, for Cuba it was $117, and for Venezuela it was $111.

Cuba lived for years on the USSR dole. Without the current Venezolano dole, the place would collapse. The average Cuban's standard of living remains at a lower level than before the downturn of the 1990s, which was caused by the loss of Soviet aid and domestic inefficiencies. Since late 2000, Venezuela has been providing oil on preferential terms, and it currently supplies about 100,000 barrels per day of petroleum products. Cuba has been paying for the oil, in part, with the services of Cuban personnel in Venezuela, including some 30,000 medical professionals.

You know nothing about Cuba. But don't let that stop you. Just make it up as you go along.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Slack-jaw knee-jerk communist reaction: People who disagree with me are EVIL.

Says it all.

No, my condemnation of Christianity and its God is based on moral and spiritual judgments, not political. (And I'm an emphatically non-Marxist democratic socialist, not a Communist -- that's like calling a Baptist a Catholic, bitch! )

 

[Karen Kraft]

And KK knows shit about Cuba. He/she has never been there.

Wrong.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Cuban cigars are arguably the most overrated product in the world.

This is true.

 

[BatShitKrazy]

Wrong.

You tell'em knowitall.

 

[The_Trouvere]

I would rather live under a right wing democracy than a left wing dictatorship. Nevertheless, I can understand why Americans to the left of the Democrat Party often admire the Cuban government.

If one's primary concern in politics is the economic well being of the poorest 10% of Americans, one must despair of American democracy. Those people do not contribute to political campaigns. Most of them do not vote. Most Americans who do vote do not care about them. They would be better off under a Cuban style dictatorship. At least they would have health care.

 

[BatShitKrazy]

Cuban cigars are arguably the most overrated product in the world.

So...you smoke cigars do ya?

 

[Wok]

I would rather live under a right wing democracy than a left wing dictatorship. Nevertheless, I can understand why Americans to the left of the Democrat Party often admire the Cuban government.

If one's primary concern in politics is the economic well being of the poorest 10% of Americans, one must despair of American democracy. Those people do not contribute to political campaigns. Most of them do not vote. Most Americans who do vote do not care about them. They would be better off under a Cuban style dictatorship. At least they would have health care.

This is a dumb statement.

 

[Karen Kraft]

You tell'em knowitall.

I have written (here and elsewhere) about my experiences in Cuba.

What is amazing is how some people here just make up stuff about Cuba, knowing nothing whatsoever about the place, and defend all challenges to their bullshit with hostility.

Unlike freedom of speech, ignorance is a fundamental right in their eyes.

 

[BatShitKrazy]

I have written (here and elsewhere) about my experiences in Cuba.

What is amazing is how some people here just make up stuff about Cuba, knowing nothing whatsoever about the place, and defend all challenges to their bullshit with hostility.

Unlike freedom of speech, ignorance is a fundamental right in their eyes.

I been to Cuba but still know very little about it.

BTW I'm an asshole not ignorant.

 

[KRCummings]

So...you smoke cigars do ya?

I have. Nasty things.
I can tell the difference between good and bad though and Cubans are not what they are made out to be.

 

[The_Trouvere]

With the exception of your last wet dream the Republicans aren't going anywhere. Obama needs that resource in order to find candidates that aren't wanted by the law.

"58%of Americans say the problems related to Obama's nominees are just a normal part of the process of filling high-level government positions in any new administration.
Gallup Poll - U.S. News
Americans’ Confidence in Obama Unshaken February 6, 2009"
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

You probably think the Gallup Survey has Communist sympathies too.