Why Palin won't be back in four years

[pointless]

Every action gets an equal opposite reaction.

dude, did you seriously just pull the "i know you are, but what am i?" routine out as a comeback? really? are you fucking twelve?

 

[Karen Kraft]

A voice of reason...........

Always.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I think you may underestimate the damage Bush did to the Republican brand. And for all AJ and his ilk may deny it now, Bush was the epitome of the modern conservative. It's going to take the entrance of millions of new voters who have no memory of Bush to begin the healing.

You, KingO and other are grossly overestimating the ideological commitment and sensitivity of the American voter.

Richard Nixon was a principle player in a criminal conspiracy of the most brazen character. He dominated the Republican party during his two terms. On the heels of his treachery, Jimmy Carter and an entire Democratic Congress was swept into power. How could the conservatives ever hope to recover?

It took only four years of Carter for this country to flock to Ronald Reagan as an alternative. The election was hardly close despite the advantage of incumbency Carter enjoyed.

Political elections in this country are largely decided on long term affiliations at the local and state levels, but whenever they are the least bit close, and certainly more so at the Presidential level, they turn on the power of the candidate's personality and his or her ability to articulate and "sell" a particular vision to the American people.

The Democrats had far stronger personalities in Obama and Biden who did a far better job of exploiting the general dissatisfaction with Bush than McCain and Palin did of articulating their own vision of hope and change.

The Democrats long-term security depends solely on their ability to avoid squandering political capital ala George W. Bush and/or the luck of not facing an emerging Republican fresh face skillful enough to exploit that opportunity in a fashion not at all dissimilar to Barack Obama.

It's really no more complicated than that. It never has been.

 

[Karen Kraft]

How exactly would the checks and balances "falter"? And how would a multiparty system fail to "reflect the moods" of the voters? It would reflect their moods much more accurately and precisely and in finer detail than the current system. Everybody (well, except for American Communists and Nazis, who are not numerous enough to get their foot in the door even in the fairest electoral system conceivable) would get a party they can vote for with wholehearted commitment, not as the lesser of however many evils.



You don't get it. What happened in November 2008 is that we passed a tipping point. The RW now is looking at a landscape where it will be doomed to very slow political marginalization, not because of any swing-of-the-pendulum but because of deep and permanent demographic, generational and cultural changes -- see here, here and here.

Now, I am not talking about the Republican Party as an institution. My point is that the modern American ideological conservative movement, that goes back to Robert Taft, became self-aware with the Goldwater campaign of 1964, triumphed with Reagan and was discredited by W, now is doomed to long-term decline. It is not going away, of course, it has too well-established a network of grassroots organizations, astroturf organizations, think-tanks, wholly-owned media outlets and wealthy donors; but it will find itself struggling up a steeper hill every election cycle, and we will live to see it reduced to near-irrelevance. And that is the best thing for America. The Republican Party might well come back, almost certainly will come back -- but only when it no longer has any place for movement conservatives.

In fact, the best and perhaps the only way for movement conservatives to retain any relevance at all in American politics in the long term is . . . a multiparty system.

Then you will be astounded when the nation elects Newt Gingrich the 45th President of the United States -- with the campaign slogan "It's time to get Government off the backs of the American people."

That is my Distant Early Warning line for today, Counselor.

May as well start the whining and kvetching now.

 

[Karen Kraft]

She would totally shut this place down if she could.

Remember that.

Why do you think that?

 

[Karen Kraft]

dude, did you seriously just pull the "i know you are, but what am i?" routine out as a comeback? really? are you fucking twelve?

I draw the line at 18.

Twelve is just.... eeeewwwww!

Work on that.

 

[Azwed]

Why do you think that?

Oh come on you think she wouldn't? Real Americans, far right religious conservatives, of course she would this is a place of smut and sin there is no way she wants it around.

 

[Purple Haze]

It took only four years of Carter for this country to flock to Ronald Reagan as an alternative. The election was hardly close despite the advantage of incumbency Carter enjoyed.

Reagan may have won almost every state, but he didn't win many of them by a huge margin. 50-41 is not flocking...

http://uspoliticsguide.com/US-Polit...esults/1980-Presidential-Election-Results.php

 

[garbage can]

remember when all you did here was post those creepy little asskissing posts? i do.

Yeah, I remember being "low key", but I don't remember kissing ass, unless you mean, that by being polite, is an act of ass kissing..... I still try to be polite.

 

[Purple Haze]

Sarah Palin is a joke, a bad one for McCain who would've done better with anyone else. I don't know if he's the guy who came up with the idea of a Pageant Queen for a running mate, or was forced into it by his party. Doesn't matter, he showed poor judgement in either scenario. He could've been a contender if he hadn't been so eager to shove his nose up the wrong asses again...

 

[Karen Kraft]

Oh come on you think she wouldn't? Real Americans, far right religious conservatives, of course she would this is a place of smut and sin there is no way she wants it around.

Oh, I suppose she wouldn't approve of a lot of Lit., but it would be contrary to her character to try to shut it down. That's not the western way. Much less the arctic way.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Push too far to the left and there will be no God fearing men and women defending your nation as the rest wouldnt dream of breaking a nail.

You don't have even the slightest idea how ridiculous, stupid and evil that statement is, do you?

 

[Karen Kraft]

Yeah, I remember being "low key", but I don't remember kissing ass, unless you mean, that by being polite, is an act of ass kissing..... I still try to be polite.

Well, there was that time in the motel room. I'm not sure "kissing" is exactly the right term, but you do remember that, right? You sure better remember!

* one eyebrow raised *

 

[Karen Kraft]

You don't have even the slightest idea how ridiculous, stupid and evil that statement is, do you?

Nor do I.

What's your problem with that statement?

 

[Morcheeba]

She hits the wall. After that, what else has she got?

What exactly does Jessica Simpson have waiting for her now? A cowbell? Tony Romo fucking other hot Betties and more cowbell?

You must fear Palin to be on this kick now and not simply enjoying Obama's win the way one should.

Seriously, you gonna be this way for the next 4 fucking years?

NO WONDER you were considering starting afresh. "Hey all, I've been Dixon Carter Lee for the past decade but I'm thinking about starting over so I can talk about Sarah Palin even more for the next 4 years."


Dude! I can't believe I let you initiate me into this site and make me call you Rob while KillerMuffin showed me how to set up my acct. for an avatar.

PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY is what you've become.

*yeah yeah, I was brutal about others recently, but hey, if they don't come around anymore no sweat off my tits, did you see the views on that thread? fucking outlanderish

If anything, Palin gets yer pecker at full staff and you hit the wall. Rob, after that, what else you got??

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Nor do I.

What's your problem with that statement?

If you're not God-fearing and if you're a leftie, you're too milquetoast and unfit for service to defend the freedoms of people such as Kelly's Crack.

Of course, someone like Kelly's Crack probably has no problem standing up for what's "right" as long as someone else is taking the bullet for it.

 

[Purple Haze]

Sarah Palin isn't even hot, a blow-up doll is more enticing.

Her inner ugly comes through...

 

[MechaBlade]

No, but it would be better off if the Republicans were permanently marginalized and the only relevant parties were the Democrats and the Socialists (or perhaps the Greens).

All of your posts are brilliant in this thread, but I especially agree with this one. Republicans deserve to go the way of the dodo for the good of America, and the world.

You, KingO and other are grossly overestimating the ideological commitment and sensitivity of the American voter.

Richard Nixon was a principle player in a criminal conspiracy of the most brazen character. He dominated the Republican party during his two terms. On the heels of his treachery, Jimmy Carter and an entire Democratic Congress was swept into power. How could the conservatives ever hope to recover?

It took only four years of Carter for this country to flock to Ronald Reagan as an alternative. The election was hardly close despite the advantage of incumbency Carter enjoyed.

Political elections in this country are largely decided on long term affiliations at the local and state levels, but whenever they are the least bit close, and certainly more so at the Presidential level, they turn on the power of the candidate's personality and his or her ability to articulate and "sell" a particular vision to the American people.

The Democrats had far stronger personalities in Obama and Biden who did a far better job of exploiting the general dissatisfaction with Bush than McCain and Palin did of articulating their own vision of hope and change.

The Democrats long-term security depends solely on their ability to avoid squandering political capital ala George W. Bush and/or the luck of not facing an emerging Republican fresh face skillful enough to exploit that opportunity in a fashion not at all dissimilar to Barack Obama.

It's really no more complicated than that. It never has been.

However, this post contains a lot of truth.

Then you will be astounded when the nation elects Newt Gingrich the 45th President of the United States -- with the campaign slogan "It's time to get Government off the backs of the American people."

You also said, "Fear not. The Party of Lincoln will be in the White House next January."

 

[The_Trouvere]

Why this country? Why don't you move to Cuba or Venezuela if that's what you want?

What I want is in Western Europe. When are you wingnuts going to learn that their are viable alternatives to the American free enterprise system?

 

[Azwed]

Oh, I suppose she wouldn't approve of a lot of Lit., but it would be contrary to her character to try to shut it down. That's not the western way. Much less the arctic way.

Whatever "character" Palin has would be shaped by her handlers and advisers if she were ever to get into national office. Those handlers and advisers would be from the far right religious base of the republican party and they scare the hell out of me.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

KK, Azwed is just echoing the Laurel of eight years ago who was convinced Bush was coming to shut down Lit, but here it is, strong as ever, meanwhile, in the Senate, the Democrats ARE going to attempt to actually shut down the free speech of private citizens...

Azwed? Care to respond?



You should have seen Laurel on the missing "W's" story; Bush HAD to be impeached because the story was a right-wing lie, or he was covering up by not prosecuting the Clinton officials who did it...

... as for Palin, as soon as she was announced, the attack was launched with emotion and not reason, it was the Democrat Year of Misogyny...

lavy on Sarah
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=611105

Stupid Sarah
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=614058
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=614066
The unholy Trinity checks in
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=614841

All my love, all my kissin’
You don’t know what you’ve been missin’, oh boy,

It’s palin to see,

OH! BOY!

(((LIPSTICK)))


[voice=Elvis][tone=THE KING!]
Misogyny trap. We can't hold back!
Because we hate you too much baybee... [/voice]

Feelings, nothing more than feelings... [/tone]

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Oh, I suppose she wouldn't approve of a lot of Lit., but it would be contrary to her character to try to shut it down. That's not the western way. Much less the arctic way.

From a woman who asked how she would go about having objectionable (to her) books removed from the public library when she was Mayor of Wasilla?

You bet your scrawny ass she would shut down Lit if she could get the power to do so.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

KK, Azwed is just echoing the Laurel of eight years ago who was convinced Bush was coming to shut down Lit, but here it is, strong as ever, meanwhile, in the Senate, the Democrats ARE going to attempt to actually shut down the free speech of private citizens...

Azwed? Care to respond?

What an utter load of bull shit.

I'll hand it to you Cap'n Oblivious, you spin a yarn like nobodies business. Creating affronts and "facts" from whole cloth.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

UD, you're right, I apologize, Trotsky was a loser who ended up with a bullet in his brain, I never should have compared you and him.







I should have said Lenin, so I didn't strip you of everything, including your pride, spirit is something no one can destroy...

It was your low spark of high heel voice that confused me.

 

[unregistered]