Why Palin won't be back in four years

[pointless]

Not as funny as when I see the wingnuts on here calling the Dems Marxists.

well, they've obviously never read any of marx's writings. he fucking hated liberals with a passion. of course, that fucker hated a lot of people. he was a cranky little bastard.

 

[Karen Kraft]

well, they've obviously never read any of marx's writings. he fucking hated liberals with a passion. of course, that fucker hated a lot of people. he was a cranky little bastard.

That's why his wife had to put food on the table.

 

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[Aliea]

This probably really cracked you up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwgHNtyD54

Why would anyone care or pay attention to anything a moron like Glenn Beck would say?

 

[Powertone]

Why would anyone care or pay attention to anything a moron like Glenn Beck would say?

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/beck_begins_with_total_viewer_win_106502.asp

 

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[Aliea]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/beck_begins_with_total_viewer_win_106502.asp

http://www.mcdonalds.com/

 

[Wok]

http://www.mcdonalds.com/

Mmm, Big Macs.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Why this country? Why don't you move to Cuba or Venezuela if that's what you want?

I can't speak for The_Trouvere, but in my case the answer would be that this country is my country (no less than it is yours), and I have a civic duty as an American (as have you) to do the right thing and push my country to the left where it belongs.

 

[garbage can]

Well, she has people talking about her.

It's been said that there is no such thing as good ink and bad ink.

I doubt that she would run for president; if that's what you mean, I agree. But there are other offices for which she might run.

A voice of reason...........

 

[KellysCrack]

I can't speak for The_Trouvere, but in my case the answer would be that this country is my country (no less than it is yours), and I have a civic duty as an American (as have you) to do the right thing and push my country to the left where it belongs.

Push too far to the left and there will be no God fearing men and women defending your nation as the rest wouldnt dream of breaking a nail.

 

[pointless]

A voice of reason...........

wipe the spooge of your keyboard, pervert. your period key is starting to stick.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I can't speak for The_Trouvere, but in my case the answer would be that this country is my country (no less than it is yours), and I have a civic duty as an American (as have you) to do the right thing and push my country to the left where it belongs.

"Push" or "persuade"? If a majority of your/my countrymen do not wish to move in the direction that you/I may wish it to go, then there comes a point at which you or I resolve our disappointment and embrace the greater civic duty of abiding by the express wishes of the majority. No?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Unfortunately, the politics of a multi-party system (coalitions, etc.) are better for a less powerful nation, and a nation with less diversity. The two-party system works very well in the United States. People's mood shifts from left to right and back again over a 40-year cycle and it's good to have a party that reflects the moods and can take action based on voters' political, social, and economic preferences. From a security point of view, the U.S. is too powerful to have anything but a strong executive branch. The checks and balances inherent to our current system would falter, I believe, within a multi-party model.

How exactly would the checks and balances "falter"? And how would a multiparty system fail to "reflect the moods" of the voters? It would reflect their moods much more accurately and precisely and in finer detail than the current system. Everybody (well, except for American Communists and Nazis, who are not numerous enough to get their foot in the door even in the fairest electoral system conceivable) would get a party they can vote for with wholehearted commitment, not as the lesser of however many evils.

It's a mistake to read too much into the Democrat victory in 2008. This was not a referendum on social values, but the result of a driving desire to see substantive change from the Bush years. That does not mean that Pelosi is right in her judgment as to Americans' social preferences -- it simply means that people thought that the Democrats would fix the economy. If they do so, they may enjoy several additional administrations; if they fail to do so, the Republicans will have another crack at it.

You don't get it. What happened in November 2008 is that we passed a tipping point. The RW now is looking at a landscape where it will be doomed to very slow political marginalization, not because of any swing-of-the-pendulum but because of deep and permanent demographic, generational and cultural changes -- see here, here and here.

Now, I am not talking about the Republican Party as an institution. My point is that the modern American ideological conservative movement, that goes back to Robert Taft, became self-aware with the Goldwater campaign of 1964, triumphed with Reagan and was discredited by W, now is doomed to long-term decline. It is not going away, of course, it has too well-established a network of grassroots organizations, astroturf organizations, think-tanks, wholly-owned media outlets and wealthy donors; but it will find itself struggling up a steeper hill every election cycle, and we will live to see it reduced to near-irrelevance. And that is the best thing for America. The Republican Party might well come back, almost certainly will come back -- but only when it no longer has any place for movement conservatives.

In fact, the best and perhaps the only way for movement conservatives to retain any relevance at all in American politics in the long term is . . . a multiparty system.

 

[berry juice]

I totaly dig her

 

[garbage can]

wipe the spooge of your keyboard, pervert. your period key is starting to stick.

"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him."

 

[KingOrfeo]

"Push" or "persuade"? If a majority of your/my countrymen do not wish to move in the direction that you/I may wish it to go, then there comes a point at which you or I resolve our disappointment and embrace the greater civic duty of abiding by the express wishes of the majority. No?

Already happened.

 

[pointless]

"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him."

remember when all you did here was post those creepy little asskissing posts? i do.

 

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[pointless]

Wasting any time with this alt is pointless.

wow. that was really weak.

 

[Azwed]

I totaly dig her

She would totally shut this place down if she could.

Remember that.

 

[KRCummings]

Already happened.

It has happened right now but traditionaly America is pretty conservative and we'll swing back that way in an election or two. Maybe someday we'll meet in the middle for good but probably not soon.

 

[Wrong Element]

Yes and no. McCain's failure was nothing more than his failing to be Republican enough. He supported the Bush big-government and spending agenda, etc. The country has not shifted to the left in that sense. The Republicans simply lost control of their brand. Look for a new "contract for America" type conservatism to appear over the next few cycles.

I think you may underestimate the damage Bush did to the Republican brand. And for all AJ and his ilk may deny it now, Bush was the epitome of the modern conservative. It's going to take the entrance of millions of new voters who have no memory of Bush to begin the healing.

 

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