Why Palin won't be back in four years

Well, she has people talking about her.

It's been said that there is no such thing as good ink and bad ink.

I doubt that she would run for president; if that's what you mean, I agree. But there are other offices for which she might run.
 
I don't see it either.... she's done on the national side....
 
I hope she will be back in four years. I want Palin and Joe the Unlicensed Plumber to come to shape the image of the Republican Party. I want the GOP to become a national embarrassment :eek: and an international laughing stock. :D
 
I hope she will be back in four years. I want Palin and Joe the Unlicensed Plumber to come to shape the image of the Republican Party. I want the GOP to become a national embarrassment :eek: and an international laughing stock. :D

meanwhile your national embarrassment has difficulty filling cabinet positions on a daily basis
 
I hope she will be back in four years. I want Palin and Joe the Unlicensed Plumber to come to shape the image of the Republican Party. I want the GOP to become a national embarrassment :eek: and an international laughing stock. :D
The only difference between this and Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes Obama fails is that you really seem to mean it.
 
I hope she will be back in four years. I want Palin and Joe the Unlicensed Plumber to come to shape the image of the Republican Party. I want the GOP to become a national embarrassment :eek: and an international laughing stock. :D

Think about that.

Not the Palin part, but the GOP part. Would the country be better off with a single-party system? Setting aside political snarkishness for the moment, envision a Congress with no Republicans in it at all. Is that a good thing? Would it continue to be good in the future?
 
The only difference between this and Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes Obama fails is that you really seem to mean it.

Rush is calling for the failure of a President. Trouvere is calling for the failure of the current Republican ideology.

Say "the only difference" again...
 
Think about that.

Not the Palin part, but the GOP part. Would the country be better off with a single-party system? Setting aside political snarkishness for the moment, envision a Congress with no Republicans in it at all. Is that a good thing? Would it continue to be good in the future?
Sometimes I really wonder. The major function of both parties seems to be to blame the other for the inability to get things done.

With a fillisbuster proof majority, the party in power at least has no one to blame for whatever problems they fail to solve.

I am not so certain we couldn't do as well or better with a straight up and down national party line vote for the House and Senate mid-way through each Presidential term.
 
Rush is calling for the failure of a President. Trouvere is calling for the failure of the current Republican ideology.

Say "the only difference" again...
Ah, ha. You fell for the trap. You obviously have no clue what Limbaugh actually said. Go look it up and get back with me, douchebag. (Sorry, Roscoe!)
 
Sometimes I really wonder. The major function of both parties seems to be to blame the other for the inability to get things done.

With a fillisbuster proof majority, the party in power at least has no one to blame for whatever problems they fail to solve.

I am not so certain we couldn't do as well or better with a straight up and down national party line vote for the House and Senate mid-way through each Presidential term.

Times when one party is in control usually show that it's a bad idea. They tend to run wild.
 
The only difference between this and Rush Limbaugh saying he hopes Obama fails is that you really seem to mean it.

Actually, the only difference is that it is bad for America if Obama fails but it is not bad for America if the GOP becomes (well, remains) a laughingstock.
 
Would the country be better off with a single-party system?

No, but it would be better off if the Republicans were permanently marginalized and the only relevant parties were the Democrats and the Socialists (or perhaps the Greens).
 
i'm bored with her. i don't even want to hate fuck her anymore. stop talking about her.
 
Actually, the only difference is that it is bad for America if Obama fails but it is not bad for America if the GOP becomes (well, remains) a laughingstock.

It would be terribly bad. We'd turn into a one party system and some good people with good ideas would never be heard.
Not all Republicans are bad and not all Democrats are good. Viewing everything from such a strict party line is dumb.
 
It would be terribly bad. We'd turn into a one party system and some good people with good ideas would never be heard.

See post #16.

Actually, better still would be a multiparty system, but to get there from here we'd have to make some fundamental electoral changes: Instant-runoff voting, electoral fusion and proportional representation. Then the Big Two would break up along their natural fault-lines and we would probably have some or all of the following in Congress:

Socialist Party
Working Families Party (left-progressive but not socialist)
Labor Party (labor-union-based)
Green Party
Libertarian Party
Democratic Party (centrist, neoliberal remnant)
Republican Party (pro-business-establishment, socially liberal remnant; like the old Rockefeller Republicans)
Constitution Party (religious right)
America First Party (Pat Buchanan's -- nativist-populist, anti-immigrant, socially conservative, military-isolationist right)
Independence Party (progressive tradition in the early-20th-Century sense of the word; fiscally conservative, socially liberal)

And Congress could do nothing unless enough votes from the above could be brought together to form a majority on any particular bill.

But, if we are to have a two-party system, it's better that its center of gravity should be way, way to the left of where it is now.
 
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Ah, ha. You fell for the trap. You obviously have no clue what Limbaugh actually said.

Yeah. I do. He wants Obama's policies to fail so the country will be saved from a costly and ruinous social agenda. I got it. We all got it.

"Trap". LOL

What a douche.
 
It would be terribly bad. We'd turn into a one party system and some good people with good ideas would never be heard.
Not all Republicans are bad and not all Democrats are good. Viewing everything from such a strict party line is dumb.

hell, the two party system is dumb. i'm fucking sick of it.
 
I hope she will be back in four years. I want Palin and Joe the Unlicensed Plumber to come to shape the image of the Republican Party. I want the GOP to become a national embarrassment :eek: and an international laughing stock. :D

WHAT? They aren't a national embarrassment now? ;)
 
No, but it would be better off if the Republicans were permanently marginalized and the only relevant parties were the Democrats and the Socialists (or perhaps the Greens).

I'm surprised at you. Did you really think that through?

I'm sure you know how things work in places where there is but one party:

The party has "wings" to include (read: co opt) young people -- a left wing, a technocratic wing, a conservative wing, and so on. Irrespective of the leanings of the newcomers, the party has a home for them. They honor and respect their political leanings by including them within one of the wings, giving them both power and responsibilities fitting for their political skills. Then, as they move up within the party structure, they must move away from their old ideology (read: personal values) into the central wing in order to progress personally within party politics. Allegiance eventually rests not with the nation but with the party. As politics vests itself in industry, commerce, media, etc., the only points of view that are presented conform to the central line of the party. More often than not, voters see the party as synonymous to the nation. Thus, the nation is not run at the will of the people, but at the whim of the central committee of the party. When an upheaval happens and the party becomes challenged, more often than not, the move is to the right, not the left, since the politics that co-opt the newcomers are more effective on the left than the right.

For further reading on this, note the dynamics of the PRI and PAN shifts in Mexico.

After years of a one-party system (the Institutional Revolutionary Party or "PRI") as described above, the ability to sustain the inclusionary mechanism broke down, permitting a take-over by the Party for National Action ("PAN") which, in turn, attempted to use the PRI model to sustain power. As the years go by, Mexico is developing a two-party system which is much more practical and healthy.

http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/Article.aspx?id=3157
 
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