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[R. Richard]

This is from Agence France-Presse. Burning at the stake is too good for her. Comment?

Woman used rape to recruit bombers

An Iraqi woman has confessed to organising the rape of 80 women so she could recruit them as suicide...

Mastermind ... Samira Ahmed Jassim confessed to organising the rape of 80 women so she could recruit them as suicide bombers.

A WOMAN suspected of recruiting more than 80 female suicide bombers has confessed to organising their rapes so she could later convince them that martyrdom was the only way to escape the shame.

Samira Jassam, 51, was arrested by Iraqi police and confessed to recruiting the women and orchestrating dozens of attacks.

In a video confession, she explained how she had mentally prepared the women for martyrdom operations, passed them on to terrorists who provided explosives, and then took the bombers to their targets.

"We arrested Samira Jassim, known as 'Um al-Mumenin', the mother of the believers, who was responsible for recruiting 80 women'', Major General Qassim Atta said.

"She confessed her responsibility for these actions, and she confirmed that 28 attempts had been made in one of the terrorists' strongholds,'' he said.

Samira Jassim was arrested on January 21. She is allegedly linked to the Ansar al-Sunnah insurgent group.

The Associated Press reports US military figures indicate at least 36 female suicide bombers attempted or carried out 32 attacks last year. Women are often allowed through military checkpoints without being searched, making it easier for them to hide explosives under their traditional robes.

 

[trysail]

*shaking head*
It's such an awful story that it leaves me nearly speechless— I thought I'd heard and seen it all; I was wrong.

 

[TE999]

Women are often allowed through military checkpoints without being searched, making it easier for them to hide explosives under their traditional robes.

"Be honest Samira, does this bomb make me look fat?"

"Of course not, Fatima, off you go."

 

[Boxlicker101]

Disgusting and revolting. And, there have been some people on this forum rooting for people like her.

 

[AchtungNight]

She has to be the most evil woman of whom I have ever heard.

This link details a few others that come close:

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/wicked-attraction/women-kill.html

 

[Pure]

here's a link

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5661466.ece


the whole thing sounds a little fishy in that it's courtesy of the iraqi security forces.

 

[R. Richard]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5661466.ece


the whole thing sounds a little fishy in that it's courtesy of the iraqi security forces.

It's being carried by the Agence France-Presse and the Times, not some borderline tabloid.

 

[Boxlicker101]

She has to be the most evil woman of whom I have ever heard.

This link details a few others that come close:

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/wicked-attraction/women-kill.html

Interesting that one of those women was actually acquitted, and another was never tried. There have been worse female killers than some of these, for instance, the Bender mother and daughter.

 

[redpaint]

As terrible and as shameful as her crime is. the one good thing is she not being held by the U.S.. They wont mess around with how they punsh her there.

 

[Pure]

what the times actually said

//Her apparent confession was broadcast widely on Iraqi media, along with a video of Jassim, nicknamed “the mother of believers”, talking about her alleged crimes.

Major-General Qassim al-Moussawi, a Baghdad security spokesman, said that her arrest by Iraqi security forces on January 21 was a significant breakthrough.

"It definitely has an effect [on the wider security situation] if the person in charge or the recruiter is killed or arrested,” he said.

“Al-Qaeda is like a pyramid, so if you remove the head of that pyramid, the rest of it will start to fall apart.”
//

one can tell the times is being a bit cautious.

the general reason, rr, is that in a war, efforts to paint the enemy as fanatical monsters, are routine. if not made up, they often constitute distortions. in any war, after all, a few people on each side are sadistic monsters. portraying them as typical is part of psy ops, obviously.

as a recent example, iirc, was the claim that the iraqi army, when it took Kuwait [during the admin of Bush I], yanked babies of respirators. the enemy, going back to WWI propaganda, are often portrayed as 'baby killers.'

NOTE: look at the last line in particular. it's standard counterinsurgency claptrap. false. al qaeda and similar groups are typically DE centralized and killing the leader [assuming it is.... who says she's a leader?] may have little effect. the attacks on Hamas "leaders" in Gaza, is an example; hard to see a discernable effect.

 

[R. Richard]

//Her apparent confession was broadcast widely on Iraqi media, along with a video of Jassim, nicknamed “the mother of believers”, talking about her alleged crimes.

Major-General Qassim al-Moussawi, a Baghdad security spokesman, said that her arrest by Iraqi security forces on January 21 was a significant breakthrough.

"It definitely has an effect [on the wider security situation] if the person in charge or the recruiter is killed or arrested,” he said.

“Al-Qaeda is like a pyramid, so if you remove the head of that pyramid, the rest of it will start to fall apart.”
//

one can tell the times is being a bit cautious.

the general reason, rr, is that in a war, efforts to paint the enemy as fanatical monsters, are routine. if not made up, they often constitute distortions. in any war, after all, a few people on each side are sadistic monsters. portraying them as typical is part of psy ops, obviously.

as a recent example, iirc, was the claim that the iraqi army, when it took Kuwait [under Bush I], yanked babies of respirators.

NOTE: look at the last line in particular. it's standard counterinsurgency claptrap. false. al qaeda and similar groups are typically DE centralized and killing the leader [assuming it is.... who says she's a leader?] may have little effect. the attacks on Hamas "leaders" in Gaza, is an example; hard to see a discernable effect.

The use of homicide bombers in Iraq is a known fact, not made up psywar. The people doing the recruiting aren't willing to commit suicide themselves. I would say that the last removes them from any sort of human consideration.

Operationally, al-Qaeda is a decentralized group of semi-independent cells. However, there are relatively few 'fund-raisers.' The fund raiser needs things like homicide bombings to continue to raise funds from the faithful. When you eliminate a major recruiter of homicide bombers, the effect is out of all proportion.

Finally, the kind of people who recruit the homicide bombers need to be fairly close to the real key operators, so that the attacks can be directed wwhen and where they're needed. The kind of people the Iraqis have doing interrogation are crude amateurs, but they have never been accused of going too easy on the people they want to get information from. Once they captured the bitch, I can assure you that they had the 'public names' of the key people and where they could once be found. The key people probably mostly made it to Syria or Iran, however they took with them the payroll function. [You must remember, these are criminals and they can't really be trusted with large amounts of cash. Payroll is hand to mouth.]

 

[Boxlicker101]

//Her apparent confession was broadcast widely on Iraqi media, along with a video of Jassim, nicknamed “the mother of believers”, talking about her alleged crimes.

Major-General Qassim al-Moussawi, a Baghdad security spokesman, said that her arrest by Iraqi security forces on January 21 was a significant breakthrough.

"It definitely has an effect [on the wider security situation] if the person in charge or the recruiter is killed or arrested,” he said.

“Al-Qaeda is like a pyramid, so if you remove the head of that pyramid, the rest of it will start to fall apart.”
//

one can tell the times is being a bit cautious.

the general reason, rr, is that in a war, efforts to paint the enemy as fanatical monsters, are routine. if not made up, they often constitute distortions. in any war, after all, a few people on each side are sadistic monsters. portraying them as typical is part of psy ops, obviously.

This is true. And, it's one of the reason there was so much ado about Abu Ghraib here and, especially, in the NY Times, even though it was, in the grand scheme of things, of little importance. Nobody was seriously hurt, the perps were tried, etc.

as a recent example, iirc, was the claim that the iraqi army, when it took Kuwait [under Bush I], yanked babies of respirators.

When was the Iraqi army under Bush I?

NOTE: look at the last line in particular. it's standard counterinsurgency claptrap. false. al qaeda and similar groups are typically DE centralized and killing the leader [assuming it is.... who says she's a leader?] may have little effect. the attacks on Hamas "leaders" in Gaza, is an example; hard to see a discernable effect.

See RR's post.

 

[Boxlicker101]

As terrible and as shameful as her crime is. the one good thing is she not being held by the U.S.. They wont mess around with how they punsh her there.

Right on! Iraq is much more progressive than the USA on some things, and punishment is one of them. Assuming they prove her guilty, they'll wring all the info out of her they can, and then hang the bitch.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Disgusting and revolting. And, there have been some people on this forum rooting for people like her.

Who has been "rooting" for people like her?

 

[JagFarlane]

As terrible and as shameful as her crime is. the one good thing is she not being held by the U.S.. They wont mess around with how they punsh her there.

Nevermind...misread due to not being fully awake.

 

[MisterSir]

Eesh. I try to be as tolerant of other religions as I can and I know that you can't judge a religion based on one or two cases, but it's like everywhere I turn now I see something else that tells me Islam really is a religion of violence. It's sad.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Who has been "rooting" for people like her?

Over the last few years, there have been many persons, including some on this forum,loudly demanding that the Anglo-American alliance leave Iraq and Afghanistan, which would have given victory to the Taliban and al Qaeda and other terrorists. For the most part, they were also smugly predicting victory for the terrorists, although they would have called them insurgents.

If the shoe fits, put it on.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Eesh. I try to be as tolerant of other religions as I can and I know that you can't judge a religion based on one or two cases, but it's like everywhere I turn now I see something else that tells me Islam really is a religion of violence. It's sad.

From its inception, Islam has NEVER been a religion of peace, except that it has preached peace among Muslims, while preaching death and/or enslavement to heretics, meaning all non-Muslims. This goes all the way back to Mohammed leading the attack by the city of Medina against his home town of Mecca, to force the Meccans to recognize him as The Prophet. After that conquest, Mohammed led his forces on a series of successful invasions of neighboring states and cities, and urged, while on his deathbed, that his followers continue the carnage. They did, until defeated by Europeans when they attempted to conquer that continent also.

 

[cloudy]

Over the last few years, there have been many persons, including some on this forum,loudly demanding that the Anglo-American alliance leave Iraq and Afghanistan, which would have given victory to the Taliban and al Qaeda and other terrorists. For the most part, they were also smugly predicting victory for the terrorists, although they would have called them insurgents.

If the shoe fits, put it on.

You lying sack of shit.

Bullshit. You made every bit of that up. Either prove it, or I want an apology from your lying mouth to everyone on this forum.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You lying sack of shit.

Bullshit. You made every bit of that up. Either prove it, or I want an apology from your lying mouth to everyone on this forum.

I made up nothing. For the last few years there have been many threads on this forum that included posts that said just what I am describing. Anybody who wants to can dig them up.

I certainly appreciate the calm, dispassionate, logical way you state your arguments.

 

[cloudy]

I made up nothing. For the last few years there have been many threads on this forum that included posts that said just what I am describing. Anybody who wants to can dig them up.

Prove it. Since it's so simple to find them, prove it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I made up nothing. For the last few years there have been many threads on this forum that included posts that said just what I am describing. Anybody who wants to can dig them up.

Prove it. Since it's so simple to find them, prove it.

Okay. Here's one.

http://forum.literotica.com/archive/index.php/index.php?t-412815.html

 

[cloudy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I made up nothing. For the last few years there have been many threads on this forum that included posts that said just what I am describing. Anybody who wants to can dig them up.




Okay. Here's one.

http://forum.literotica.com/archive/index.php/index.php?t-412815.html

That proves absolutely nothing but that people want us out of Iraq. So...prove what you said, or retract it.

 

[DesertPirate]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I made up nothing. For the last few years there have been many threads on this forum that included posts that said just what I am describing. Anybody who wants to can dig them up.




Okay. Here's one.

http://forum.literotica.com/archive/index.php/index.php?t-412815.html

As usual Colly had the most intelligent comment there. Damn I miss her!!

 

[cloudy]

As usual Colly had the most intelligent comment there. Damn I miss her!!

You didn't even know Colly.