Stimulus Package - Debate & Discussion

[Slowlane]

Obama Imposes Pay Cap on Executives -

President Barack Obama on Wednesday imposed $500,000 caps on senior executive pay for the most distressed financial institutions receiving federal bailout money, saying Americans are upset with "executives being rewarded for failure."

IMHO, virtually assuring that they will be unable to hire the best leadership available. In other words, they won't be able to hire the leadership needed to get them out of the hole their in.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Obama Imposes Pay Cap on Executives -

President Barack Obama on Wednesday imposed $500,000 caps on senior executive pay for the most distressed financial institutions receiving federal bailout money, saying Americans are upset with "executives being rewarded for failure."

IMHO, virtually assuring that they will be unable to hire the best leadership available. In other words, they won't be able to hire the leadership needed to get them out of the hole their in.

Meaning you advocate executives still getting theirs while fucking you out of yours. Of course they tried to the best of their ability to do right by your money and I'm sure you'll be thinking of that while you scrape the bottom of your Campbell's soup can for that last corner wedge of foodstuff while they take a three-martini lunch at Cipriani's still being on the clock.

 

[_3_]

Meaning you advocate executives still getting theirs while fucking you out of yours. Of course they tried to the best of their ability to do right by your money and I'm sure you'll be thinking of that while you scrape the bottom of your Campbell's soup can for that last corner wedge of foodstuff while they take a three-martini lunch at Cipriani's still being on the clock.

Gawd I see what they mean about your signature will you please change that? It takes up half a page and looks like you are late for halloween.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

(redacted cuz that Needledick the Bug Fucker alt shit above and below me ain't worth my time)

 

[Medikated]

Gawd I see what they mean about your signature will you please change that? It takes up half a page and looks like you are late for halloween.

With his mug, he probably celebrates Halloween year round.....

 

[RightField]

Meaning you advocate executives still getting theirs while fucking you out of yours. Of course they tried to the best of their ability to do right by your money and I'm sure you'll be thinking of that while you scrape the bottom of your Campbell's soup can for that last corner wedge of foodstuff while they take a three-martini lunch at Cipriani's still being on the clock.

Lets let the government run everything so that they can apply logic and balance to every situation.

 

[RightField]

I actually thought the move was brilliant by Obama....those bank executives are going to do everything in their power to pay the Government back as fast as possible to get the feds out of their bed. Talk about morning regrets! lol.

 

[RightField]

*not advocating socialism...but this is a good lesson in shotgun weddings

I want Wall Street and Pennsylvania Avenue separated as far apart as possible and want Wall Street to do everything in their power to put the Government back inside Pandora's little box.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Obama Imposes Pay Cap on Executives -

President Barack Obama on Wednesday imposed $500,000 caps on senior executive pay for the most distressed financial institutions receiving federal bailout money, saying Americans are upset with "executives being rewarded for failure."

IMHO, virtually assuring that they will be unable to hire the best leadership available. In other words, they won't be able to hire the leadership needed to get them out of the hole their in.

Recent events have shown clearly enough the irrelevance of CEO pay to performance.

 

[unregistered]

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Recent events have shown clearly enough the irrelevance of CEO pay to performance.

And if they were anything but CEO's, they would've been shitcanned for their performance long ago. Maybe they should start calling up Bernie Madoff for some downgraded salary survival tips, eh?

 

[Slowlane]

The market is voting on Obama's plan.

It's a bad plan for any number of reasons. I haven't checked the market but if it's responding to this my bet is it's down. The more the government tries to control business the more the market will drop.

 

[MeeMie]

Meaning you advocate executives still getting theirs while fucking you out of yours. Of course they tried to the best of their ability to do right by your money and I'm sure you'll be thinking of that while you scrape the bottom of your Campbell's soup can for that last corner wedge of foodstuff while they take a three-martini lunch at Cipriani's still being on the clock.

Or, Presidents who serve $100 per pound steaks and could grow orchids in the Oval Office because the heat is jacked up, after preaching sacrifice to the rest of the country.

 

[Slowlane]

And some of our trade partners are pissed off about some of the stipulations in the stimulus package.

This gets worse by the minute.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Slowlane]

This might be a good time to remind the voters of the old saying "Be careful what you ask for you might get it."

They wanted democrats ...

 

[off2bed]

This might be a good time to remind the voters of the old saying "Be careful what you ask for you might get it."

They wanted democrats ...

That's why I've always assumed Democrat voters are Marxists. They have to want to drag down the rich and further depress the economy, maybe to pave the way for their New World Order. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they know what they're doing, that they've studied history, logic, and human nature.

But it's probably more accurate to say they're like the horde of kids in Lord of the Flies.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

That's why I've always assumed Democrat voters are Marxists. They have to want to drag down the rich and further depress the economy, maybe to pave the way for their New World Order. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they know what they're doing, that they've studied history, logic, and human nature.

But it's probably more accurate to say they're like the horde of kids in Lord of the Flies.

Not that you pay attention, but historically Democratic Presidents have presided over much more robust and fertile economies than have Republicans.

I'd say the accurate description of Democratic leadership as far as the economy is concerned, would be bet categorized as superior across the board. Higher GDP growth, Lower inflation, Dollar compared higher vs the Euro and/or Mark, better DJIA growth, Higher job creation numbers, and lower deficits.

Comparisons overall of all Democratic vs all Republican Presidencies since 1961 (the office was occupied roughly half the time by a Democrat and half by a Republican)

% Per Annum Dem
GDP Growth 4.1%
Employment 2.9%
CPI 4.0%
DJIA 8.1%
Dollar +0.8%

% Per Annum Rep
GDP Growth 2.9%
Employment 1.7%
CPI 5.1%
DJIA 6.5%
Dollar -3.6%

% Per Annum Bush43
GDP Growth 2.2%
Employment 0.5%
CPI 3.0%
DJIA 0.9%
Dollar -5.9%

But don't let little things like facts and numbers get in the way of your posts.

 

[unregistered]

 

[off2bed]

I see what you mean, but since when do they care about balanced budgets?

 

[Acanthus]

I see what you mean, but since when do they care about balanced budgets?

The last series of positive budgets were under a democratic president.

 

[Azwed]

Not that you pay attention, but historically Democratic Presidents have presided over much more robust and fertile economies than have Republicans.

I'd say the accurate description of Democratic leadership as far as the economy is concerned, would be bet categorized as superior across the board. Higher GDP growth, Lower inflation, Dollar compared higher vs the Euro and/or Mark, better DJIA growth, Higher job creation numbers, and lower deficits.

Comparisons overall of all Democratic vs all Republican Presidencies since 1961 (the office was occupied roughly half the time by a Democrat and half by a Republican)

% Per Annum Dem
GDP Growth 4.1%
Employment 2.9%
CPI 4.0%
DJIA 8.1%
Dollar +0.8%

% Per Annum Rep
GDP Growth 2.9%
Employment 1.7%
CPI 5.1%
DJIA 6.5%
Dollar -3.6%

% Per Annum Bush43
GDP Growth 2.2%
Employment 0.5%
CPI 3.0%
DJIA 0.9%
Dollar -5.9%

But don't let little things like facts and numbers get in the way of your posts.

On election day CNBC had a series of short stories on how the stock market has performed historically under various administrations.


The best combination was a Democratic president and a Republican controlled congress. That netted an average annual return of 13.xx percent.

A democrat president and a Democratic congress was second with a 11.xx percent return.

Republican president democratic congress was next and that was in the low 10 percent range I think.

Republican president and Republican congress got you down into the high 8 percent range IIRC.

Past performance of course does not guarantee future returns.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Acanthus]

Name 'em.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

 

[unregistered]