Epic case of false arrest

[Liar]

Courtsey of Gavelston, TX.

Ok so let me get this straight. Cops get a complaint about three white prositutes soliciting a john. So they drive to the wrong house. In civilian clothes. In an unmarked car. And grabs the first black female they see. Which happens to be a 12 year old girl. Do not identify themselves as cops. Call her a whore. And drags her towards the car.

And then they're suprised the kid fights them tooth and nail? Duh.

I'm all for people being color blind. But damn.



Oh, and the faiol doesn't stop there, but rolls in the usual bad-cops-sensationalist-story kind of way. Girl charged with resisiting arrest, dad charged with assauting an officer, what-have-you.


Not intending this to be your regular "hate all cops" thread (hi, RR). But the accumulated meltdown of ohgodwhatweretheythinking? in this one story was kind of epic. I wuldn't buy it if it was fiction...

 

[michchick98]

Courtsey of Gavelston, TX.

Ok so let me get this straight. Cops get a complaint about three white prositutes soliciting a john. So they drive to the wrong house. In civilian clothes. In an unmarked car. And grabs the first black female they see. Which happens to be a 12 year old girl. Do not identify themselves as cops. Call her a whore. And drags her towards the car.

And then they're suprised the kid fights them tooth and nail? Duh.

I'm all for people being color blind. But damn.



Oh, and the faiol doesn't stop there, but rolls in the usual bad-cops-sensationalist-story kind of way. Girl charged with resisiting arrest, dad charged with assauting an officer, what-have-you.


Not intending this to be your regular "hate all cops" thread (hi, RR). But the accumulated meltdown of ohgodwhatweretheythinking? in this one story was kind of epic. I wuldn't buy it if it was fiction...

That's just !

I mean, I can't believe this has gone on this long, especially since the cops were clearly in the wrong.

I bet they'd react differently if it were their kids in that situation.

 

[fieryjen]

What in fucking hell?

You've got to be kidding me!

I can't even describe how much that pisses me off. Anyone who wouldn't react just about the same way as the father and his daughter did in this situation has something damn wrong with them.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

Someone tries to grab my daughter like that is lucky to be alive long enough to get to their car.

 

[Liar]

Pretty much exactly the same happened in my hood a couple of months ago. Police in plain clothes did a raid on what they thought was a major heroin stash.

Turned out they were at the right number, but on the wrong street. Busted in the door to a 6 y.o boy and his 17 y.o girl who was babysitting him, with a full set of drawn weapons and a panicked drug sniffing Lab. Calamity ensued, until after a minute or two, when the cops realized that...oops. You got to commed the bravery of the babysitter though. A cop approaced the little kid, gun first, and the girl repotredly threw a coffee table at him.

Big difference seems to be, that as soon as it dawned on then there were way off, they took full responsibility for their mistake, with formal and private apologies, a fair reimbursement from the city, a swift suspension of everyone involved until it was clear who was to blame - the dispatch operator who gave the wrong adress and the commanding officer at the scene who should have seen the house didn't match the description they had. Both were fined and reassigned to crap duty.

And that was that. Fuckups do happen in every line of work. It's the small minded aftermath that can give the entire profession a bad rep.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Un.Fucking.Believable.

 

[LittlePenisInPA]

Not to make light of the major error, but your first example has absolutely nothing to do with your actual story.

You went from a 12 yo girl being accused of prostitution to a suspected drug house. That's like showing me an orange and asking me my opinion on apples.

In the suspected drug house error... Cops did bad, Cops got disciplined.

No one will commend them for doing their best to curb the drug problem in their community. No one even notices it ... until they make a mistake.

The only difference between public servants and everyone else is when the public servants do good, no one notices. When they do bad, it makes headlines.

When's the last time the bagger at the local supermarket make headlines for dropping some little old lady's eggs?

To quote a line from the movie "A Few Good Men" - Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

 

[fieryjen]

Not to make light of the major error, but your first example has absolutely nothing to do with your actual story.

You went from a 12 yo girl being accused of prostitution to a suspected drug house. That's like showing me an orange and asking me my opinion on apples.

In the suspected drug house error... Cops did bad, Cops got disciplined.

No one will commend them for doing their best to curb the drug problem in their community. No one even notices it ... until they make a mistake.

The only difference between public servants and everyone else is when the public servants do good, no one notices. When they do bad, it makes headlines.

When's the last time the bagger at the local supermarket make headlines for dropping some little old lady's eggs?

To quote a line from the movie "A Few Good Men" - Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

What in the world are you on about?

Sorry to say it, but nothing in this post made sense to me.

 

[rgraham666]

What in the world are you on about?

Sorry to say it, but nothing in this post made sense to me.

I think a translation would be "There's evil out there. You wouldn't understand unless you've faced it. So don't go criticizing the people that face it every day. Even when they do something really retarded."

You're welcome.

 

[fieryjen]

I think a translation would be "There's evil out there. You wouldn't understand unless you've faced it. So don't go criticizing the people that face it every day. Even when they do something really retarded."

You're welcome.

Thank you Rob. I kinda figured something of the sort.

But I couldn't even tell him what a complete egghead he is cause the post was too nonsensical to really form an argument against it.

Very frustrating. *nods*

 

[Liar]

Not to make light of the major error, but your first example has absolutely nothing to do with your actual story.

You went from a 12 yo girl being accused of prostitution to a suspected drug house. That's like showing me an orange and asking me my opinion on apples.

In the suspected drug house error... Cops did bad, Cops got disciplined.

No one will commend them for doing their best to curb the drug problem in their community. No one even notices it ... until they make a mistake.

Exactly. That was a example of a mistake handled well. I think the two cases are pretty comparable. It was cops doing their routine job, but messing it up and scariong the bejezus out of innocent people. But here, when cops did bad, cops immediately said "our bad", took good care of the victims of their mistake, and that was that. No sensation-news, no lawsuit, no public outcry. And the police force came out of the ordeal smelling like roses, compared to the Gavelston incident.

The babysitter, for instance, was commended for her resourceful actions when confronted with what appeared to be an armed robbery. Not booked for resisting arrest.

 

[LittlePenisInPA]

In Liar's first post, he's talking about cops responding to a suspected prostitution situation. In his next post he's telling us about cops busting through the wrong door in a suspected drug house.

Certainly not the same situation - like trying to compare apples to oranges.

In the case of the suspected drug house, cops were disciplined, damages rewarded for the error. What more do you want? Blood? Their first born?

My point is everyone makes mistakes. You make a mistake at work and no one in your community really notices and probably doesn't give a shit.

A cop makes a mistake and everyone goes off the deep end... unless the cop's mistake results in the loss of his own life. Then most of us say, "Well, it's his job."

You look at this situation as a bunch of bad cops running around with guns drawn and come to the conclusion that they're a bunch of raging lunatics.

I look at this situation as a bunch of cops doing their best to keep the community and made an error.

The reason for the quote from a Few Good Men ... well if you think you can do better, put on the badge and pick up a gun... walk a mile in their shoes instead of playing Monday morning quarterback.

 

[LittlePenisInPA]

Exactly. That was a example of a mistake handled well. I think the two cases are pretty comparable. It was cops doing their routine job, but messing it up and scariong the bejezus out of innocent people. But here, when cops did bad, cops immediately said "our bad", took good care of the victims of their mistake, and that was that. No sensation-news, no lawsuit, no public outcry. And the police force came out of the ordeal smelling like roses, compared to the Gavelston incident.

The babysitter, for instance, was commended for her resourceful actions when confronted with what appeared to be an armed robbery. Not booked for resisting arrest.

Understood. I still believe the general public under-appreciates the public servant until they need them. In either case, I'm sure both police departments have done a lot to better their communities only to be made to look like a bunch of Rambos by the media because of 1 incident.

In either case, the PD will be the "asshole of the week" until the FD burns down an entire city block... then it'll be their turn.

 

[fieryjen]

In Liar's first post, he's talking about cops responding to a suspected prostitution situation. In his next post he's telling us about cops busting through the wrong door in a suspected drug house.

Certainly not the same situation - like trying to compare apples to oranges.

So unless the cops were responding to the exact same complaint, we can't compare two situations? I think you're really reaching here. I think the situations compare well.

In the case of the suspected drug house, cops were disciplined, damages rewarded for the error. What more do you want? Blood? Their first born?

He was giving an example of something he thought was handled well. Did you miss that part?

My point is everyone makes mistakes. You make a mistake at work and no one in your community really notices and probably doesn't give a shit.

A cop makes a mistake and everyone goes off the deep end... unless the cop's mistake results in the loss of his own life. Then most of us say, "Well, it's his job."

You look at this situation as a bunch of bad cops running around with guns drawn and come to the conclusion that they're a bunch of raging lunatics.

It's not the fact that they made a mistake. It's the fact that they will not admit it was a mistake but are actually arresting and suing the poor people on the receiving end of the mistake.

 

[Liar]

never mind. seems we sorted that out...

 

[LittlePenisInPA]

Agreed... it appears to have been sorted out.

My apologies for the confusion. What got me confused was the first line in your 2nd post .. "Pretty much the same thing happened in my hood"...

It led me to believe you were rolling the 2 incidents together somehow.

but it's all good.... Happy Holidays all

 

[Liar]

It's not the fact that they made a mistake.

True. Although I'd like to add that the mistake was pretty damn high on the fuckup-o-meter.

Mission: Arrest three white hookers.
Result: Arrested one black kid.

You know, that's a tad bit beyond good folks making a bad call. It's a Simpsons skit.

 

[rgraham666]

Oh, I'm perfectly capable of reading multi-syllabic words. No need to dumb yourself down on my account.

But big words or small you shrugged your shoulders at people doing something quite foolish and bordering on evil. The gist of your post, or so it seemed to me, was that we should give the police in the first article a pass because they are police officers.

That isn't a stance I agree with.

 

[fieryjen]

It just bothers me when people jump on others for criticizing cops that damn well deserve to be criticized. It's like that stupid patriotism thing... saying one bad thing about the US suddenly makes you a bad person and not a good American. That doesn't mean I don't respect cops in general and it doesn't mean I don't know that it can be a damn hard job.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Personally, with my background, I have very litle good to say about cops. The best I will say about them is that sometimes they are a necessary evil.

 

[Chantilyvamp]

omfg, I cant even imagine. I mean your a kid, 3 men in run up calling you names and grabbing you? The scars from that will last a life time.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Very sad situation. It makes me think of a case, I believe it was in Atlanta, where an elderly black woman was shot when cops broke down her door on a 'no-knock' order. They had been told that drugs were being sold in her apartment. She was ancient and certainly not a dealer, but they broke down the door and shot her viciously just the same. (And, of course, no drugs were found.) It took two years before the cops who did it were suspended from their posts.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

It just bothers me when people jump on others for criticizing cops that damn well deserve to be criticized. It's like that stupid patriotism thing... saying one bad thing about the US suddenly makes you a bad person and not a good American. That doesn't mean I don't respect cops in general and it doesn't mean I don't know that it can be a damn hard job.

One of my kung fu instructors is a police officer and I respect the hell out of him.

omfg, I cant even imagine. I mean your a kid, 3 men in run up calling you names and grabbing you? The scars from that will last a life time.

Like I was saying before, they would be lucky to make it to the car if it were my daughter. Either I'd grab a shotgun or a big kitchen knife, and either way one of them would be missing a head if they didn't identify themselves as a police officer fast enough, and I had better see a badge before a weapon.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

3 GOAT PIG

Legally you can kill police officers conducting false arrests. Such acts have gone to the Supreme Court and prevailed. BUT the cases involved violent cops killed while attempting to injure the defendant or the cops didnt identify themselves as cops before they were splattered.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

In Liar's first post, he's talking about cops responding to a suspected prostitution situation. In his next post he's telling us about cops busting through the wrong door in a suspected drug house.

Certainly not the same situation - like trying to compare apples to oranges.

1. Cops
2. Going to the wrong location
3. Arresting the wrong people

Sounds like apples and apples to me. *shrug*