Historical Homosexuality

SEVERUSMAX

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For the purposes of writing historical fiction, not necessarily erotica per se, I have wanted to include a realistic portrayal of the homosexuality and bisexuality prevalent in Hellenistic culture. Yet I want to make sure that this is not mistaken for simply being an excuse for gay porn (as if one needs an excuse for gay porn, lol). It's certainly going to be a well-rounded plot with a lot of things that are lot more disturbing than gay sex, but the sheer scale of homosexuals, bisexuals, and homosexual acts will no doubt cause some to think of this as a homocentric novel. It's not, although again there's no wrong in that (to quote Jerry Seinfeld).

Given that much of sexuality (at least for men) was highly fluid in Hellenistic society, I am wondering how much the homophobia factor might negatively affect sales, once it goes to publication (if it ever does) as a mainstream work. I am certainly not going to apologize for including a realistic depiction of my own sexual preference (bisexuality) or that of others (homosexuality). But I am curious as how to much of an upstream swim I'm facing here, with a work of literature instead of say, a film.

Should it get to film, I can see it getting an NC-17 rating, easily, so that's another matter. I know that Gore Vidal faced a lot of antagonism for embracing his homosexuality, as did Truman Capote. But this is the 21st century, and despite the militant religious conservatism of the present administration, I would like to think that a work of parallel history that shows accurate levels of gay and bi sex wouldn't face that much revulsion, but I wonder.
 
Also, I'm wondering about the portrayal of prostate health issues, just how much did ancient Greeks know about it? As much as I know about the Greeks, in most things, I'm not sure about their medical knowledge.
 
Sever, I wish you luck with your book.

However, I don't think that the greeks had an understanding at all of the prostate. I am not gay nor bi but do enjoy sex by my wife using a strap on dildo on me. I do have an ejaculation and I love it. Not only the prostate is great but the nerve endings right there on the rim of my asshole also provide immense pleasure. Go ahead with your work. Good luck and hope that you will get not much negativism. You are right this is the XXIst Century.
 
However, I don't think that the greeks had an understanding at all of the prostate. I am not gay nor bi but do enjoy sex by my wife using a strap on dildo on me. I do have an ejaculation and I love it. Not only the prostate is great but the nerve endings right there on the rim of my asshole also provide immense pleasure. Go ahead with your work. Good luck and hope that you will get not much negativism. You are right this is the XXIst Century.

Thanks. I sincerely hope that you're right. :cool:
 
I hope you pursue your story - sounds very interesting to me. I personally think that many people would appreciate an accurate portrayal of the culture. Of course there will be many in this country who scoff and condemn such an effort - but oh, well... And from the small bit I've read about homosexuality in ancient Greek culture, you would want to do a good bit of reading in order to get an accurate view. It wasn't a situation where "everyone was doing it" and there were various cultural restraints as well.

Anyway, for a recent erotic story I did for Lit I too needed a bit of historical reference. I found the following on-line sources that offer a more scholarly type of material.

1)Institute of Historical Research, http://www.history.ac.uk
this isn't real user friendly - but if choose "Browse", then choose "Web Sites" you can find a bunch of links to all manner of history subjects

2) People With a History - An On-Line Guide to Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Trans History
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/index.html

3) http://www.youth-suicide.com/gay-bisexual/ (then use the search for; GLBT (Queer?) History)
(don't let the "suicide" aspect of this turn you off, this is one of the best resources I've found for on-line scholarly works on all manner of GLBT issues.)

Good Luck - Hope these links help
 
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