New faces, come say hello...

[DVS]

Wait, you actually know people like this personally in RL? It's not just that you've read about them? Cause, I have to say some of this is sounding a bit like fantasy land to me.

I don't know...I don't think it's that much fantasy in all areas of the country. I'm sure there are some very liberal areas that folks feel this way.

And, I'm a child of the 60s, hippies, free love, flower power, drugs and rock and roll, so maybe I'm really reliving a flashback from those days. Back then (60s and 70s), sex was pretty easy to come by. With no HIV or AIDS, condoms weren't necessary. Ah, the good ol' days.

Still, although it's probably not common place, I'm sure there are those who still practice the commune/hippie lifestyle. What one partner thinks is fun, the other doesn't like...they just have an open marriage. Pretty cool lifestyle, if you ask me.

 

[FurryFury]

<Other couples are, believe it or not, quite vanilla while the husbands believe in having their wives professionally trained and/or disciplined from time to time and will pay handsomely to have their wives disciplined. sometimes it is by the hour and sometimes for a couple days. These paid Dominants claim they can turn any bitch into a submissive - the key is time. I often think that is the kind of treatment I need to become all I can be.>

The above was the part I found most like fantasy.

Yes, free love is a great concept in theory but rarely works well in practice. I think that's kind of sad.

 

[Nipples4U]

Wait, you actually know people like this personally in RL? It's not just that you've read about them? Cause, I have to say some of this is sounding a bit like fantasy land to me.

Yes, I actually know people in real life like that. Do you want their names? They are all in Florida - central part around Orlando.

I have personally met men who were married, met their wives and they went out while their husbands gave me a spanking and used me. I met with such married men more than once.

 

[AmishPantry]

real people

I have seen ads on alt.com and adult friend finder that offer wife disciplining and sub training for gentlemen. I think a starting rate was mentioned. Welcome to the real world where truth is stranger than fiction.

Had i the money, I might have paid to have a day at the hands a disciplinarian and sub trainer. As my luck would have it I think both ads were men in CA.

 

[DVS]

<Other couples are, believe it or not, quite vanilla while the husbands believe in having their wives professionally trained and/or disciplined from time to time and will pay handsomely to have their wives disciplined. sometimes it is by the hour and sometimes for a couple days. These paid Dominants claim they can turn any bitch into a submissive - the key is time. I often think that is the kind of treatment I need to become all I can be.>

The above was the part I found most like fantasy.

Yes, free love is a great concept in theory but rarely works well in practice. I think that's kind of sad.

It worked quite well when I was younger. Ah, the good ol' days were pretty good, indeed.

And, I'd like to go on record that I can turn any bitch into a submissive, if I'm given as much time as I feel is necessary. I'd think you could break anyone, with the proper stimulus and amount of time.

Personally, I prefer the more difficult cases. You know the type...those stuck up bitches who think they're boss. The carrot and the stick comes to mind. The secret? Heavy on the stick, of course. It all goes along with the "rode hard and put up wet" mindset.

OK, I'm kidding, but the fantasy is quite enjoyable. Wanna be my first victim?

 

[FurryFury]

It worked quite well when I was younger. Ah, the good ol' days were pretty good, indeed.

And, I'd like to go on record that I can turn any bitch into a submissive, if I'm given as much time as I feel is necessary. I'd think you could break anyone, with the proper stimulus and amount of time.

Personally, I prefer the more difficult cases. You know the type...those stuck up bitches who think they're boss. The carrot and the stick comes to mind. The secret? Heavy on the stick, of course. It all goes along with the "rode hard and put up wet" mindset.

OK, I'm kidding, but the fantasy is quite enjoyable. Wanna be my first victim?

I wouldn't mind being a victim of yours but since I'm rarely a bitch and I'm already pretty submissive I doubt I'd be challenging enough.

 

[FurryFury]

I have seen ads on alt.com and adult friend finder that offer wife disciplining and sub training for gentlemen. I think a starting rate was mentioned. Welcome to the real world where truth is stranger than fiction.

Had i the money, I might have paid to have a day at the hands a disciplinarian and sub trainer. As my luck would have it I think both ads were men in CA.

That makes little sense to me. I've always thought training should be specific to the individual. Therefore having some Dom apply training to your wife wouldn't work well but what do I know?

Seems a bit like cuckolding too. I know folks are into that.

 

[FurryFury]

Yes, I actually know people in real life like that. Do you want their names? They are all in Florida - central part around Orlando.

I have personally met men who were married, met their wives and they went out while their husbands gave me a spanking and used me. I met with such married men more than once.

That doesn't surprise me. It was the husband paying for his wife to be trained by the hour or night thing that surprised me.

I wouldn't expect that was common.

 

[Nipples4U]

I think I would like being trained to be submissive to all men by one man who knew how to get results from any woman. But I do wonder what measures are in place to prevent me from getting emotionally attached to the instructor. Any man who can train any woman to be submissive to all men would have to know exactly how much force, how much discipline and how much persuasive encouragement is necessary for lifelong results to pleasure any man.

It seems to me that to win the affections of any man, a woman needs only to kneel before a man and open her mouth.

 

[FurryFury]

I think I would like being trained to be submissive to all men by one man who knew how to get results from any woman. But I do wonder what measures are in place to prevent me from getting emotionally attached to the instructor. Any man who can train any woman to be submissive to all men would have to know exactly how much force, how much discipline and how much persuasive encouragement is necessary for lifelong results to pleasure any man.

It seems to me that to win the affections of any man, a woman needs only to kneel before a man and open her mouth.

LOL! I've found that is not all it takes to win the affections of any man. Men are surprisingly complex once you scratch beneath the surface.

I agree that were one to obtain this fantastical one hour or one night training one would likely develop emotions for the trainer.

 

[Sqoodd]

Men are surprisingly complex once you scratch beneath the surface.

True, we are far more complex than some would like to admit, but I think it is because they do not wish to open up to the possibilties.

I agree that were one to obtain this fantastical one hour or one night training one would likely develop emotions for the trainer.

I have seen it take less time. It all depends on the mood.

 

[MISSLADYMAM20]

Hi I'm Amber. I'm 23 bi fem masosub (from what I am told so far..haha) I am new to all of this though I have been into kinky sex since my first time. I enjoy taking orders and am eager to please as well as learn. I'm still a little greem on the vocabulary for everything and I know some people get irritated by that so please bare with me.... I'm a lover not a fighter

 

[FurryFury]

Welcome MISSLADYMAM20.



I'm sure you'll find your journey here and elsewhere in BDSM interesting. I would caution you against letting other people tell you who and what you are. You see everyone has an opinion, they are like, well you know.

Only YOU can define what you are.

 

[FurryFury]

True, we are far more complex than some would like to admit, but I think it is because they do not wish to open up to the possibilties.


I have seen it take less time. It all depends on the mood.

I still say wholesale training by another person for a man that won't do his own training is mostly a fantasy and if not always a fantasy is quite possibly a very bad idea. Men are actually different in their desires and goals.

Giving a man a "trained" sub when he is not dominant or even interested in such gains you what exactly?

I can just here it now, "Yes, Sir! I trained her right and in just under an hour too!" WTF?

It's like giving a man with no thumbs and no desire to use a messaging device a PDA.

Perhaps you are left with instructions.

"When you say Peter Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers three times, fast, she will immediately drop to her knees and suck you off. Just don't let anyone else say it unless you want to share her newly trained talents."

 

[Gwiadus]

Hello all.

Well all sinse I finally decided to come to the forums I figured I might as well come on by and introduce myself. My name is Richard and the nick I go by is Gwiadus of course. I'm an 18 year old male Dom who has been into the lifestyle for quite some time now. Not to much of course. I've had experiences as both a Dom and sub. But havn't had enough experience yet in subbing to believe if I'm a switch or not.

I figured I would just let you all know a few interesting facts about me so the whole greating isn't repetitive. First and formost, I make my own bondage gear. Their is an advantage to taking leather working classes as a teen. And secondly I was writing a true story about my first Dom eperience but do to harddrive crash, I lost 4 days of the week. And because of which I can't get my writing urge back. So, looking forward to hearing from you all.

M. Richard

 

[NervousGuy]

Well as my nickname kinda states. I'm a young shy guy. I believe I'm into subbing but have only had one experience with submission which I greatly enjoyed. I'm here to meet and talk to other subs and Doms about their experiences and look forward to meeting a Dom who might be willing to show me the ropes. You can take that last word both ways heh. Looking forward to it all.

NervousGuy

 

[Harmony_1985]

Don't be nervous honey, there are loads of experienced people here who will be more than too happy to help you!

Welcome!

 

[NervousGuy]

Heh

Well thanks for the words of comfort Harmony. Heh. I'll see you around.

 

[FurryFury]

Welcome Gwiadus.



I'm surprised to hear an 18 year old has been in the lifestyle quite some time.

As a mother to a 17 year old that's a bit frightening to me.

 

[FurryFury]

Welcome NervousGuy.



Have you tried the BDSM personals or a site that helps you meet others? Have you been to any local munches?

 

[hot_mwmale]

hello from california

a bit about me. I'm a creative professional, very much enjoy art and am also a struggling writer. I mid-forties, fit, attractive, and am long-time married, and alone in my desire for bdsm play. I've had some experience...I'd consider myself a switch. I very much enjoy controlling, yet am a wonderful pleasing sub to the right woman or couple. I'm bi, and looking..okay..my fantasy would be a couple where male is bi, and both are into bdsm play. I'm looking for one ongoing, growing relationship with the right couple. yeah...right. ..that's what I said..how frikin difficult is that? Well.I'm married so that takes me out of many of the conversations...but...I am still hoping that someone will see my wonderful potential, and get to know what a creative and imaginative, lover I can be to you both. Anyway....enough of the hard sell..I really am looking to find common ground here with at bi-male couple, or a female..who is a switch. I'm looking for a serious, ongoing relationship. I know how nice it can be.

I'd love to hear from you if you believe we may have some common ground.

Best to you all, and I very much enjoy reading these and knowing that I'm not alone >smile.

look forward to your reply.

 

[Sqoodd]

Reply to FurryFury

I still say wholesale training by another person for a man that won't do his own training is mostly a fantasy and if not always a fantasy is quite possibly a very bad idea. Men are actually different in thier desires and goals..

I agree. A man must take the first steps and train a sub for himself (I would not have it any other way) for the same reason as you mentioned: Men are "different in thier desires and goals". Each Dom needs to express his/her own boundries and consquences to the Sub up front.

Giving a man a "trained" sub when he is not dominant or even interested in such gains you what exactly?

It gives him a toy, but if he is not ready, it might destroy him. Or worse he destroys the Sub.

I can just here it now, "Yes, Sir! I trainer her right and in just under an hour too!" WTF?

No, I was referring to the Dom getting the Sub to feel an emotional connection to the Dom in under an hour. True training would take more than one session, but every now and again (once in BLUE moon) it happens. If someone else trains the Sub in under an hour, then it was out of fear and probably done for the wrong reasons.

 

[FurryFury]

Welcome Hot_mwmale.



You might want to try the BDSM forum.

Good luck.

 

[FurryFury]

I agree. A man must take the first steps and train a sub for himself (I would not have it any other way) for the same reason as you mentioned: Men are "different in thier desires and goals". Each Dom needs to express his/her own boundries and consquences to the Sub up front.

It gives him a toy, but if he is not ready, it might destroy him. Or worse he destroys the Sub.

No, I was referring to the Dom getting the Sub to feel an emotional connection to the Dom in under an hour. True training would take more than one session, but every now and again (once in BLUE moon) it happens. If someone else trains the Sub in under an hour, then it was out of fear and probably done for the wrong reasons.

It looks like we see more things in common than I originally thought. Thanks for explaining.

 

[WalkingInSpace]

Hi there, interesting conversation going on here. I can see men posting listings looking for payment to train subs, but do people go for that? I've only heard about it in fantasies, as previously discussed.

I'm here to introduce myself. I'm a young girl lost in a big world. I've been submissive for a few years, and also masochistic. Sadistic men are hot.
I like to study foreign languages and play World of Warcraft and am trying to work out a relationship with a slightly older man who was previously vanilla.