Marine denied Medal of Honor

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Mother to ask Congress to award son Medal of Honor
By CHELSEA J. CARTER, AP
Military Affairs Writer
1 hour, 2 minutes ago

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. - The mother of a Marine who witnesses say covered a grenade with his body to save comrades in Iraq plans to appeal to Congress to award her son the nation's highest military honor after learning it was denied by Defense Secretary Robert Gates because of questions about his final act.

Rosa Peralta said Thursday she made the decision after a Marine general told her that her son, Sgt. Rafael Peralta, would be awarded the Navy Cross rather than the Medal of Honor because the nomination was tainted by reports he was accidentally shot by a fellow Marine shortly before an insurgent lobbed the grenade.

"I'm going to see what can be done, because I'm not satisfied with what they want to do now," she said in Spanish.

President Bush singled out the Marine's actions in a 2005 Memorial Day speech, saying Peralta "understood that America faces dangerous enemies, and he knew the sacrifices required to defeat them."

"The president spoke of him. So how is this now possible that they do this," Rosa Peralta said.

She said she was considering rejecting the Navy Cross, the second-highest award for valor in combat that can be awarded to a Marine. Peralta will be the 24th recipient of the Navy Cross for actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"I still don't know what I'm going to do," she said.

The question about whether to award Peralta the Medal of Honor centers on whether the mortally wounded Marine, who was shot in the head and upper body, could have intentionally reached for the grenade and covered it with his body.

"There was conflicting evidence in the case of Sgt. Peralta as to whether he could have performed his final acts given the nature of his injuries," said Capt. Beci Brenton, spokeswoman for Navy Secretary Donald Winter.

The initial recommendation that he receive the Medal of Honor went through reviews by the Marine Corps, U.S. Central Command, the Department of the Navy and ultimately up to Defense Secretary Gates, Brenton said.

After all the evidence was scrutinized, officials determined that it "did not meet the exact standard necessary to support the Medal of Honor," she said.

But Rosa Peralta said she was led to believe her son would get the Medal of Honor in a November 2007 telephone call from an undersecretary of the Navy, who she says told her the nomination was to be forwarded to the White House.

Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said there was a June 2007 Navy recommendation for the Medal of Honor, but it never went to the White House because Gates didn't approve it.

He said that because there was some contradictory evidence, Gates instead took the extra step of asking five other individuals to review the case — a former commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, a Medal of Honor recipient, a civilian neurosurgeon who is retired from the military and two forensic pathologists who also are military retirees.

The five were given medical reports that had not been available in the initial review. They thoroughly reviewed the case again, including inspecting the evidence and re-enacting the event, Whitman said.

"Each independently recommended to the secretary that the evidence did not support the award of Medal of Honor," he said.

Gates made his decision this month.

A Medal of Honor nomination is typically made by the military, approved by the Department of Defense and conferred by the president. But a nomination can also be made through a special act of Congress and then bestowed by the president on behalf of Congress.

The Medal of Honor comes with about $1,000 a month special pension in addition to other military pensions.

Peralta was shot several times in the face and body during a house-to-house search in Fallujah on Nov. 15, 2004, during some of the fiercest fighting of the war.

According to witness accounts, Peralta lay mortally wounded on the floor of a house and grabbed a grenade lobbed by fleeing insurgents. His body absorbed the blast and he died immediately.

In a rare move, the Marine Corps Thursday released a redacted copy of the Medal of Honor nomination by Lt. Gen. Richard Natonski and an investigative report detailing the "friendly fire" shooting of the sergeant.

The report found sufficient evidence existed to believe that Peralta was probably shot by a fellow Marine and that a gunshot wound to the head and injuries to the head from a grenade caused his death.

The nomination, which relies on witness statements, forensics, bomb fragment analysis and an autopsy, concluded that although Peralta was shot in the head, he made "a conscious, heroic decision to cover the grenade and minimize the effects he knew it would have on the rest of his Marine team."

The nomination details Peralta's actions in the final minutes of his life, with several witnesses recounting how the Marine lay face down and used his arm to pull the grenade to him. It also says a forensic analysis of Peralta's clothing and flak jacket show the grenade was underneath him when it exploded.

Peralta, who was assigned to Hawaii's 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, moved to San Diego from Tijuana as a teenager. He was 25.

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I hope he ends up getting it. One way or another, sounds like he took that grenade and saved lives.
 
you should do something for your country rather than sitting on your ass posting bullshit on LIT :D

Fuck man you are ugly as sin!!!!!!
 
Gates..the guy who's DoD 'puter was hacked, by China, in his Penatgon office.

"Quick, Secretary of Defense, call the computer help line!"

Then he fell and broke his arm. Under his command there was that B-52 nuke cruise missile "thing". Followed by security guard playing game-boy at the top level nuclear weapons security site. Followed by base commander being demoted and replaced.

All Clinton did was invite them over to stay in the Lincoln bedroom. Big deal. That shows balls. Put aside differences for one night and just bask in the big experiment for a while. No one knows where it's headed, but so far it has defeated the worst evils in the world, lifted most of the Earth out of starvation, lifespans only continue to increase world-wide, as well as huge overall Earth population growth.

All amazingly enough the biggest time of overall prosperity in the history of humanity world-wide. In the exact same time-span as "Democracy" began.

Coincidence? Don't think so.

:cool:
 
Gates..the guy who's DoD 'puter was hacked, by China, in his Penatgon office.

"Quick, Secretary of Defense, call the computer help line!"

Then he fell and broke his arm. Under his command there was that B-52 nuke cruise missile "thing". Followed by security guard playing game-boy at the top level nuclear weapons security site. Followed by base commander being demoted and replaced.

All Clinton did was invite them over to stay in the Lincoln bedroom. Big deal. That shows balls. Put aside differences for one night and just bask in the big experiment for a while. No one knows where it's headed, but so far it has defeated the worst evils in the world, lifted most of the Earth out of starvation, lifespans only continue to increase world-wide, as well as huge overall Earth population growth.

All amazingly enough the biggest time of overall prosperity in the history of humanity world-wide. In the exact same time-span as "capitalism" began.

Coincidence? Don't think so.

:cool:

You're stoned so I fixed your post.
 
The Medal of Honor should never be pursued by anyone, including surviving relatives.
I can appreciate the anger that the mother must feel and from that article I'd say the guy should have gotten it but he didn't and that should be the end of it unless someone changes their mind. No pursuit of it should be allowed.
 
The Medal of Honor should never be pursued by anyone, including surviving relatives.
I can appreciate the anger that the mother must feel and from that article I'd say the guy should have gotten it but he didn't and that should be the end of it unless someone changes their mind. No pursuit of it should be allowed.

You're very wise, KRC.
 
The Medal of Honor should never be pursued by anyone, [especially] surviving relatives.
I can appreciate the anger that the mother must feel and from that article I'd say the guy should have gotten it but he didn't and that should be the end of it unless someone changes their mind. No pursuit of it should be allowed.

I changed that to reflect my opinion. No one knows what happened there, but God and the people there. I choose to believe he acted in the highest tradition of Marine Sergeants, but I don't know, because I wasn't there. Monday morning quarterbacking is fucking cheap and demeaning.
 
Here's my question:

Why was he given the Navy Cross? What did he do that was heroic (getting shot even by friendlies, doesn't count as heroism enough for the Navy Cross)?

If he didn't do anything heroic then he shouldn't have been even considered, let alone, granted the Navy Cross.

If he did do something heroic, is not a part of the grenade grabbing thing he did, because if it's not then he fulfills the requirements for the Medal of Honor.
 
Here's my question:

Why was he given the Navy Cross? What did he do that was heroic (getting shot even by friendlies, doesn't count as heroism enough for the Navy Cross)?

If he didn't do anything heroic then he shouldn't have been even considered, let alone, granted the Navy Cross.

If he did do something heroic, is not a part of the grenade grabbing thing he did, because if it's not then he fulfills the requirements for the Medal of Honor.

Good point.
 
It's a military matter.



It's not a civilian award. You give your medals to whoever the fuck you want to and let the people being shot give the medals they fucking want to.
 
What he did was heroic. He did it for his men, not a medal. He had the greatest honour any man could have, knowing his death had value.

None of which will lessen the loss to his family.
 
It's a military matter.



It's not a civilian award. You give your medals to whoever the fuck you want to and let the people being shot give the medals they fucking want to.

Every now and then we can agree on something. Don't let it go to your head though. You're still a fucking idiot.
 
Here's my question:

Why was he given the Navy Cross? What did he do that was heroic (getting shot even by friendlies, doesn't count as heroism enough for the Navy Cross)?

If he didn't do anything heroic then he shouldn't have been even considered, let alone, granted the Navy Cross.

If he did do something heroic, is not a part of the grenade grabbing thing he did, because if it's not then he fulfills the requirements for the Medal of Honor.

It doesn't matter whether he was shot or who did the shooting or that he was mortally wounded. He conciously pulled a grenade under himself to save his fellow Marines and that deserves the Navy Cross at the very least.
 
this is stupid. He Won a major medal. I am proud as hell of him. and we all should be as well. He recieved the second highest medal a United States soldier can get. What is the problem! he deservied it.

Wining a silver is winning a silver. don't give me that wining a silver is loosing a gold bullshit
 
It doesn't matter whether he was shot or who did the shooting or that he was mortally wounded. He conciously pulled a grenade under himself to save his fellow Marines and that deserves the Navy Cross at the very least.

I didn't say it mattered who shot who.

My point was that if he did perform an act of heroism enough to warrant the second highest award for heroism in the Marine Corps but not enough for the medal of honor then what the fuck did he do to deserve the Navy Cross in the first place.

As far as the difference goes for his family, it is huge.

Not only is there a monthly stipend (which I'm not sure but highly doubt) for the CMoH but also any children of his have an automatic nomination into any of the military academies.
 
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