Karl Rove versus Karl Rove

[shereads]

Jon Stewart is at his most tragically funny when he lets his subjects speak for themselves.

Check out this video of Rove's take on the value to a possible VP candidate of having been a mayor:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

Stewart notes that Karl Rove appears "bitterly divided" over the issue of experience. That clip is followed by two contradictory statements on teen pregnancy by right-wing spokeshead Bill O'Reilly. (Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy is "a private matter." Britney Spears' sister's pregnancy is "primarily the fault of the girl's parents, who clearly have little control" and are "pinheads."

The next compare-and-contrast clips are by a McCain supporter and a senior McCain advisor on gender "whining" (Hilary Clinton "plays the gender card" and "retreats behind the apron strings"; Sarah Palin "is attacked because she's a woman."

Shameless.

 

[Guest]

Jon Stewart is at his most tragically funny when he lets his subjects speak for themselves.

Check out this video of Rove's take on the value to a possible VP candidate of having been a mayor:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

Stewart notes that Karl Rove appears "bitterly divided" over the issue of experience. That clip is followed by two contradictory statements on teen pregnancy by right-wing spokeshead Bill O'Reilly. (Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy is "a private matter." Britney Spears' sister's pregnancy is "primarily the fault of the girl's parents, who clearly have no control..."

The next compare-and-contrast clips are both by a senior McCain advisor on gender (Hilary Clinton 'plays the gender card'; Sarah Palin 'is attacked because she's a woman.'

The Red States are obviously not red with shame. Republicans don't have any.

Brilliant, concise, to the point.

And tragic. And so fucking frustrating.

Oh, if only those who really need to hear this would actually listen.

I mean, really listen.



(Jon Stewart rocks.)

 

[shereads]

Brilliant, concise, to the point.

And tragic. And so fucking frustrating.

Oh, if only those who really need to hear this would actually listen.

I mean, really listen.



(Jon Stewart rocks.)

Stewart's program is the only one I know of that consistently airs clips of politicians contradicting their own statements. He may play it for the entertainment value, but the contrasting video clips themselves are pure journalism. I wish we'd see this stuff in the mainstream media.

 

[shereads]

Highlights from the Republican National Convention:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/i...111&title=John-McCain's-Big-Acceptance-Speech

 

[Guest]

Stewart's program is the only one I know of that consistently airs clips of politicians contradicting their own statements. He may play it for the entertainment value, but the contrasting video clips themselves are pure journalism. I wish we'd see this stuff in the mainstream media.

They'd claim even more liberal bias, I imagine.

But it would open a few more eyes, perhaps.

Maybe.

 

[neonlyte]

Educational Video's... my fav's

 

[shereads]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/i...111&title=John-McCain's-Big-Acceptance-Speech

This one contains moments from McCain's acceptance speech that are, word-for-word, right out of George W. Bush's speech in 2000.

Yikes. It's like nobody's looking.

 

[Guest]

This one contains moments from McCain's acceptance speech that are, word-for-word, right out of George W. Bush's speech in 2000.

Yikes. It's like nobody's looking.

Agreed.

We're watching that one right now.

Husband and I, mouths wide open, as Stewart played the speeches at the same time as their words identically overlapped.

Jesus.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

But it all doesn't matter. Really, to the majority of voters, it doesn't. Here, try this for an explanation.

 

[neonlyte]

Palin interview (with ABC) on the BBC website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7611625.stm

Revealing in what she chose not to answer.

 

[sr71plt]

Guess it all depends on whose pig is being lipsticked.

 

[Liar]

This is what campaigning sadly enough comes down to.

With all the other shit going on in the Average Joe's life, he has the attention span of a guppy.

Now, that doesn't mean that he's stupid. Most people are fairly bright, and form their opinion regardless of the 4 second soundbites. because they instinctively know it's 99% BS. If nothing else, they at least watch the Daily Show on occasion, where Jon Stewart shows them the BS.

But those are not the voters that are targeted. It's the small percentage of dimwits they're after. Dimwits have the right to vote too, and the latest talking point, is their main compass. These people don't have an internal BS filter, and they don't read or watch the available ones. They go with the latest echo in the media, and don't exactly believe it, but think "Huh, everyone says Obama's an elitist. I'm not sure what an elitist is, but I bet it's not good. And what if they're right?"

It's more blatant on one side, but I see it everywhere.

I've wondered about this 90% nail that the dems are trying to hammer in, for instance. You know the one. "He voted with Bush (said as if they were talking about a veneral disease) 90% of the time! That's not change, That's more of the same!" It sounds great, but is it a factual selling point? How much does a senator traditionally vote against the party line? And what issues made up the 10% of dissent? Trivial or important ones?

But hey, it's an awesome soundbite.

 

[rgraham666]

But it all doesn't matter. Really, to the majority of voters, it doesn't. Here, try this for an explanation.

Interesting, VM. And scary.

I kept hearing the Borg speaking. "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Interesting, VM. And scary.

I kept hearing the Borg speaking. "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

Bang on.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

It's the small percentage of dimwits they're after. Dimwits have the right to vote too...

It's particularly the case with people who are rigid in their beliefs. I don't know that they're all dimwits, per se... but they are very literal and rigid and think in very black and white terms. My family is like this. Very religiously rigid. My sister called me after she saw the Obama ad, and railed for fifteen minutes about it, said she would "disown me" (not the first time I've heard this threat, btw... *yawn*) if I voted for a man who wanted to teach sex ed to my kindergarteners.



And this, really, is what we're up against. People who swallow the propaganda like good little sheep.

 

[rgraham666]

More thoughts on the link VM posted.

It seemed to me the author was drawing very big conclusions about Indian culture from a very small sample, an upper class sample. Did he spend any time with the Dalits, the Untouchables, live their lives? Did he see a widow being burned alive?

He is right that social structures give shape and purpose to people's lives. However such structures tend to be rigid, intolerant and highly exclusive. They might provide stability but they're going to quash ability. An in-bred 'high class' person is automatically going to be 'more valued' than a 'low class' genius, given power for no other reason than they were born to the position. Not a good thing in my opinion.

Basically, it goes back to one of my central beliefs. Humans are apes. We organize ourselves into troops. Some become alphas. Others do what the alphas tell them to do. And they exclude outsiders and exile 'troublemakers'.

This is not such a bad thing if this is a conscious process. If it's simply a matter of instinct we're reverting back to ape.

 

[Belegon]

John McCain's statement about how qualified a two term mayor (Guiliani) or a one term governor (Romney) is....

....prior to picking someone less experienced than either of them, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzhFDQIgGSg

"I have had a strong and a long relationship on national security, I've been involved in every national crisis that this nation has faced since Beirut, I understand the issues, I understand and appreciate the enormity of the challenge we face from radical Islamic extremism," the Senator declared. "I am prepared. I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time."