Idiots and their dogs!

[THROBBS]

Finally coaxed the girls to go for a bike ride. 1 block away a woman has her two little dogs on leashes. and I go by first...THEN the dogs start yapping... 1st daughter gets by I look back... then look back again and see 2nd daughter is stopped. I yell for first to stop (she has past me as I was waiting)...I turn around and head back...woman and dogs are nowhere to be seen...and daughter has been scratched and bitten.

Too bad dog didn't get caught in spokes and shredded. Better the woman!

We have a dog. We keep ours on SHORT leash if anyone is around.

 

[Elianna]

Finally coaxed the girls to go for a bike ride. 1 block away a woman has her two little dogs on leashes. and I go by first...THEN the dogs start yapping... 1st daughter gets by I look back... then look back again and see 2nd daughter is stopped. I yell for first to stop (she has past me as I was waiting)...I turn around and head back...woman and dogs are nowhere to be seen...and daughter has been scratched and bitten.

Too bad dog didn't get caught in spokes and shredded. Better the woman!

We have a dog. We keep ours on SHORT leash if anyone is around.

I have 2 huskies I could lend you that would take care of the yapping dog problem for good. (Their fur is hell on your vacuum cleaner, though)

 

[THROBBS]

I have 2 huskies I could lend you that would take care of the yapping dog problem for good. (Their fur is hell on your vacuum cleaner, though)

I don't REALLY blame the dogs.

But if your Huskies would take a chunk outa the woman it would seem just.

 

[Elianna]

I don't REALLY blame the dogs.

But if your Huskies would take a chunk outa the woman it would seem just.

Nah. I don't train them to bite people (don't tell anyone though. I'm counting on their ferocious looks to hold psychos at bay. A cop told me that whenever I take them around people I say "sit! No biting!" even though I know they'd assist you in carrying out the flat-screen TV. LOL ).

Yappy dogs bit more people than big dogs. I don't really like them (though I'm sure there are plenty of nice little rats running around). Out in the desert, a good hawk or owl could solve many of our problems. However, I agree that the owners are to blame, but little bitey things...that yap...oi!

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Nah. I don't train them to bite people (don't tell anyone though. I'm counting on their ferocious looks to hold psychos at bay. A cop told me that whenever I take them around people I say "sit! No biting!" even though I know they'd assist you in carrying out the flat-screen TV. LOL ).

Yappy dogs bit more people than big dogs. I don't really like them (though I'm sure there are plenty of nice little rats running around). Out in the desert, a good hawk or owl could solve many of our problems. However, I agree that the owners are to blame, but little bitey things...that yap...oi!

The only time I ever got bit was a mini poodle. When my terror-ier nipped a neighbor I gave her Hell. Big dogs seem mellower, somehow.

 

[Guest]

This woman's dogs bite a child and she just leaves the scene?

Bitch!

Is your daughter okay?

 

[Munachi]

there are quite a few dog owners who aren't too considerate imho around here... not only those with small dogs... like, a lot of people here let their dogs go without leash, and the dogs are usually big, friendly ones, that go up to me curious to see who i am, while the owner is calling from 20 metres away "don't worry, he doesn't bite."

i am sure he doesn't, but the thing is, i am scared of dogs. i can't help it. and knowing that dogs know when i get scared and that it being scared makes it more likely to get bitten, just makes it worse. i hate it when people let their dog run up to other people. if they want to let them go free, they should do so in dog parks, or they should make sure the dog stays very close to them...

i also get scared of dogs on leashes, if they look at me, or the leash is long or the path narrow so i have to go close to them, but i guess that is something i have to live with - though i always appreciate it when the people take the leash shorter until i am past... fortunately there are quite a few that do that, but some that don't. interestingly those with the most aggressive looking dogs (like, the fighting type of dogs) often don't...

anyway, i don't want to say i dislike dogs, i like them, and if i know a dog i can be good friends with it. but dogs that i don't know are scary to me.

 

[THROBBS]

This woman's dogs bite a child and she just leaves the scene?

Bitch!

Is your daughter okay?

yep..she and dogs were all gone even before I got back there. WIfe say she knows which house. will have to visit.

Daughter should be fine... scratches and a couple punctures...not TOO deep.
Calling friends to tell of the drama.

BUT i find out just few minutes ago... that she yelled at forst daighter as she passed: "God Damnit!" and then 2nd daughter HAD to stop because dog's leash crossed her path and the woman yelled at her: "Try to keep from killing my dogs!"

I didn;t hear any of this first hand as I had gone by first.

 

[THROBBS]

Our "big" dog was VERY mellow.

Our yappy is somewhat more highstrung.
and we contain her just in case.

 

[Guest]

yep..she and dogs were all gone even before I got back there. WIfe say she knows which house. will have to visit.

Daughter should be fine... scratches and a couple punctures...not TOO deep.
Calling friends to tell of the drama.

BUT i find out just few minutes ago... that she yelled at forst daighter as she passed: "God Damnit!" and then 2nd daughter HAD to stop because dog's leash crossed her path and the woman yelled at her: "Try to keep from killing my dogs!"

I didn;t hear any of this first hand as I had gone by first.

A visit is definitely in order, at least to verify that the dogs have their rabies shots up to date.

And to make certain the woman knows that you know what happened so hopefully it won't happen again.

 

[emap]

Well you got it better than we do here. All of the dogs are contained in the yards, however it is mostly mexican families around us so it seems like every dog on the street are little yappers that go off on anything. Besides our cat actually, who is bigger than most of the dogs I have seen.

Anyway, the problem lies in, the dogs are always in the yard, they yap away early morning because I assume they are fed then and want to be fed, if whoever feeds them sleeps in or is a little late feeding, they get very loud.

Our cat is not fat, actually she is lean to the point I always think she doesn't eat enough. She's kinda tallish for a cat, which makes her taller and about as thick as a Chihuahua. I know she wanders out of the yard, she waits for me to come home again and usually she is not in the yard, though no dogs ever bark at her. To be honest I half think she has at one time or another beat up on the yappers near us, cause there are not many cats but she gets in fights.

 

[TE999]

My beef is with thoughtless dog owners who walk their darlings all over the neighborhood and let them shit on everyone elses lawns...Including mine.

I usually discover this while I'm mowing the lawn and get my shoes shined with dog shit. Occasionally someone rides a horse thru as well from the size of some of the leavings.

Put a diaper on the damn things or carry a scoop and a plastic bag you dweebs!

< rant over >

 

[SweetWitch]

You know, training a dog isn't hard. It just takes patience. Any dog can be trained to behave, and anyone that allows a dog to carry on like that, while on a leash, no less, is just asking for trouble. They have no respect for their animals, let alone their neighbors.

An animal on a leash should be under the owner's control at all times. No yapping, snapping or snarling should be allowed unless the human is in danger. When the dog misbehaves that way, it's because it does not trust its human, and therefore, does not trust anyone else.

Those are animals in distress, whether the idiot woman realizes it or not. She can make excuses all she wants, but she has failed her dogs.

 

[SeaCat]

Bwahahahaha

I have no problem with the dog owners around my place now.

When I first moved into our place I was confronted by a guy up the road. He informed me that I had to keep my cats inside because they excited his dogs. (After I confronted him about letting his dogs shit in my yard.) I told him to keep his dogs off my yard and he actually threatened me with them. (Both are Pitt's.) He told me he would let them loose.

I pulled a machete from inside the door and told him to let them loose as they were roughly 150 pounds of free meat for me.

He has never come back.

My other neighbors curb their dogs and keep them on short leashes. It might have something to do with the fact that I call each of them "Snack".

Then again my neighbors have seen me catch a Rattler, cut it up and cook it. I'm known as the wildman on the corner.

Cat

 

[Zeb_Carter]

With scratches and punctures I would call the police if you know which house. Check you local ordinance, but I bet the owner will be fined and made to pay any medical expenses.

 

[scheherazade_79]

With scratches and punctures I would call the police if you know which house. Check you local ordinance, but I bet the owner will be fined and made to pay any medical expenses.

I hope that's the case. It would be a shame if the dog were destroyed as a result of the owner's carelessness.

And I don't get what people do to dogs to turn them like that. I've never had a dog that I can't trust around people.

Sorry for your kid, Throbbs. It must have been scary

 

[freshface]

With scratches and punctures I would call the police if you know which house. Check you local ordinance, but I bet the owner will be fined and made to pay any medical expenses.

Also call the health department. They have an office that will check the dog's rabies vaccination status and help her understand that it's not OK for her dogs to bite children.

 

[Lisa Denton]

yep..she and dogs were all gone even before I got back there. WIfe say she knows which house. will have to visit.

Daughter should be fine... scratches and a couple punctures...not TOO deep.
Calling friends to tell of the drama.

BUT i find out just few minutes ago... that she yelled at forst daighter as she passed: "God Damnit!" and then 2nd daughter HAD to stop because dog's leash crossed her path and the woman yelled at her: "Try to keep from killing my dogs!"

I didn;t hear any of this first hand as I had gone by first.

I joke about alot of stuff but not this.

Any dog could become scared and nip and scratch, its thier nature, and thier owners responsibility. If a dog is too scared or aggressive to be walked in your neighborhood it is that womans responsibility to go to a isolated park or something.

Your daughter was bitten, the woman left the scene, that is terrible.

Then you find by the womans words and deeds that she thought your children shouldn't be allowed out without leashes, and that by her actions she forced your daughter to stop and be attacked. Nips and scratches are a serious attack if the dogs vacinations are not up to date, also serious if the vacinations are up to date but she cannot provide proof. This owner has proven she cannot control her dogs even on leashes, and that they are a danger to your children and other children in the neighborhood.

Go to the womans house immediately, be as polite as possible but demand proof of vacinations. Tell her you are deciding whether to take your daughter for some extensive and expensive tests, x-rays, etc. Let her know that she will be responsible financially for anything arising.

By her words, attitude and responses decide whether to call the police and animal control. Depending on where your daughter was and where this woman was, street, sidewalk, driveway, there are options for you.

Taking 5 minutes to phone in a police report on the incident, without filing any charges if you wish, will at least give the children in your neighborhood some help, if this happens again and there is a record of previous incidents.

If the woman is un-cooperative or unable to provide proof of vacinations go full tilt, call everbody, police, animal control, neighbors with shotguns (?) (ok, so I did joke a little) and inform them you want action.

At the very least this woman should be made to understand that if she loves her dogs, she needs to love and control them, and take reponsibility.

My doggie Scooter read and approved this post, woof, woof.

 

[Shwenn]

Small dogs were mostly bred to be ratters. So they tend to be the most agressive breeds. They need to be constantly hunting in order to be of any good. Well, they did. Back in the day.

 

[neonlyte]

There are three dogs in enclosed yard on the adjoining plot. The plot is vacant, the dogs get fed once a day and spend the rest of the day and night barking at any sound beyond the enclosure. I don't understand why the owner has dogs.

Any owners with dogs that crap in the park are immediately told to clean it up, we used to have packs of strays here until the authorities rounded them up. Generally, people are becoming anti-dog because of the nuisance factor, cat owners are regarded as 'poofters'

 

[fifty5]

<caveat>I'm right! So are most of you. Much of the rest of the world are fools!</caveat>

Now on with the post...

Courtesy - on the part of both dog and owner (the former depends mostly on the latter) - is 99.9% of all that's required. Shame it's not more common.

Mind you, there are quite a number of folk that just don't know about dogs - when a dog comes up to say hello, they run and dance and shout and wave their arms about. Dogs know about this: it's a big bouncy game - and they join in enthusiastically, running and dancing and shouting along with the stranger.

When it was them who started the game, why do they complain about the dogs?


My two have been taken to the park almost every day since they were about 6 weeks old - and let off the lead right from the start. It won't surprise anyone who knows about dogs that they pretty quickly learnt manners.

If someone they don't know (dog or human) acts friendly, they are over the moon: at the very least, their tails wag like supercharged windmills and with the least encouragement they roll over to have their (unfortunately usually soaked) tummies rubbed. They'll both let anyone take their ball from their mouths and love it if the new friend throws it for them to chase.

On the other hand, if the stranger (again both dog or human) doesn't show any interest, just ignoring them, it's really quite funny to see them quickly pretend that they weren't coming to see the stranger, but just happened to be going that way: they walk past ignoring them back.

Thank heavens though that they've grown up enough not to be too enthusiastic. The times that really made me sweat was when someone had a tiny kid who was just a bit taller than they are. The silly woofs sometimes jumped up to kiss the kid - and knocked them over.

That's when courtesy from the owner is needed. I always went over, apologised and checked that both kid and parent were OK. Most often, that ended well - the grown-up could almost always see that it was just over-enthusiasm, not an attack. Best was when I made the dog sit and could get the kid to come and stroke.

Quite early on, the difference between the other person's reactions was made plain within a couple of minutes, by meeting two different kids (both around 10). The first one did the panic dance, but I called the dogs away and they did come, though obviously disappointed that they weren't allowed to stay and play. Less than 100 yards on, the second kid rode up on his bike. His reaction was to jump off his bike and start to pet the dogs. A great time was had by all and we all hung out together for the thick end of 10 minutes.

I do feel bad about the times it doesn't go well, but I definitely don't blame the dogs and - to be honest - I don't feel that guilty myself: I really can't take responsibility for training the whole world about how to behave around dogs.


There are a few places where I do have to be careful. One of the two has somehow got the impression that he owns the pelican crossing by the park. In his view, no-one else is allowed to use it except us. If there's anyone else standing waiting to cross, I hang around at the other end of the railings and take the dogs across through the cars that have been stopped. Sometimes it's the other way round and someone joins us. In that case I wait until they've got well on the way before I let the dogs start off and keep them on very short leads.

There's a lesser tendency for the same one to be protective of the path from the crossing back to our house. That's simpler: if someone is approaching, I make the dogs sit - and stay sitting until the stranger has passed.


What does amaze me is the number of folk who own dogs, but apparently don't understand them at all. Particularly those who think that keeping the dog on a lead is the be-all and end-all of animal control. I'll pass over the cost to their pets who never get a chance to run free - just watch a dog who does and its ecstatic enjoyment of just running is obvious! Instead I'll relate a short story of what happened just a couple of days ago, Monday.

I'd taken the dogs and my grand-daughter to a park a few miles away because that one has a really good playground with lots of fun equipment. We were meandering our way from the gate where I'd parked towards the playground - at least my grand-daughter and I were meandering, I was throwing their balls and the dogs were running like fun! Any way, I suddenly heard a woman bellow from about 30 yards away, "PUT THOSE DOGS ON A LEAD!" I looked over and there she was, with a chunky beast pulling on a short lead. Cutting short an exchange that in all lasted several minutes in sporadic bursts, I refused (all I needed to do was throw the balls in a direction that kept them away from the harridan and her unfortunate animal). I did call and ask her which way she wanted to go so that I could leave that path free, but she didn't respond except to yell, "IT'S ILLEGAL NOT TO KEEP DOGS ON A LEAD!" Anyway, since she wouldn't tell me what I needed to know we set off in the direction of the playground. Eventually, she followed so that I could actually see where she wanted to go, so I made a big loop to let her get past.

All a bit of a pain, but two things amused me.

The first was one of the other things this woman shared with everyone in earshot: "THIS IS A STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER AND HE'D TEAR YOUR DOGS TO SHREDS IF THEY COME NEAR!" That was funny because mine are half Staffy and two halves make a whole, so if she had been right about the breed being what matters, along with their Alsation/Collie-cross mother making up the other two halves, it would have been her mutt that got chewed. Of course that's just dog-shit, upbringing is what really matters and as I've already said, mine have been brought up to have good manners: they were more likely to walk away than anything else.

The other thing that creased me up was my 6-year-old grand-daughter's reaction. She's another that I trust 'off the lead', so while I made that big loop, she pottered about her own business on the other side of the path. Afterwards, first to me, then later to her dad, she confided that as the woman went past, she'd whispered under her breath, "You're a meanie!"

Out of the mouths of babes...


It's an old saw, but the saying that: "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners!" is still true. My dogs aren't perfect because I'm not. I flatter myself that I can' be too bad, because they are pretty damn good.

 

[Lisa Denton]

<caveat>I'm right! So are most of you. Much of the rest of the world are fools!</caveat>

Now on with the post...

Courtesy - on the part of both dog and owner (the former depends mostly on the latter) - is 99.9% of all that's required. Shame it's not more common.

Mind you, there are quite a number of folk that just don't know about dogs - when a dog comes up to say hello, they run and dance and shout and wave their arms about. Dogs know about this: it's a big bouncy game - and they join in enthusiastically, running and dancing and shouting along with the stranger.

When it was them who started the game, why do they complain about the dogs?


My two have been taken to the park almost every day since they were about 6 weeks old - and let off the lead right from the start. It won't surprise anyone who knows about dogs that they pretty quickly learnt manners.

If someone they don't know (dog or human) acts friendly, they are over the moon: at the very least, their tails wag like supercharged windmills and with the least encouragement they roll over to have their (unfortunately usually soaked) tummies rubbed. They'll both let anyone take their ball from their mouths and love it if the new friend throws it for them to chase.

On the other hand, if the stranger (again both dog or human) doesn't show any interest, just ignoring them, it's really quite funny to see them quickly pretend that they weren't coming to see the stranger, but just happened to be going that way: they walk past ignoring them back.

Thank heavens though that they've grown up enough not to be too enthusiastic. The times that really made me sweat was when someone had a tiny kid who was just a bit taller than they are. The silly woofs sometimes jumped up to kiss the kid - and knocked them over.

That's when courtesy from the owner is needed. I always went over, apologised and checked that both kid and parent were OK. Most often, that ended well - the grown-up could almost always see that it was just over-enthusiasm, not an attack. Best was when I made the dog sit and could get the kid to come and stroke.

Quite early on, the difference between the other person's reactions was made plain within a couple of minutes, by meeting two different kids (both around 10). The first one did the panic dance, but I called the dogs away and they did come, though obviously disappointed that they weren't allowed to stay and play. Less than 100 yards on, the second kid rode up on his bike. His reaction was to jump off his bike and start to pet the dogs. A great time was had by all and we all hung out together for the thick end of 10 minutes.

I do feel bad about the times it doesn't go well, but I definitely don't blame the dogs and - to be honest - I don't feel that guilty myself: I really can't take responsibility for training the whole world about how to behave around dogs.


There are a few places where I do have to be careful. One of the two has somehow got the impression that he owns the pelican crossing by the park. In his view, no-one else is allowed to use it except us. If there's anyone else standing waiting to cross, I hang around at the other end of the railings and take the dogs across through the cars that have been stopped. Sometimes it's the other way round and someone joins us. In that case I wait until they've got well on the way before I let the dogs start off and keep them on very short leads.

There's a lesser tendency for the same one to be protective of the path from the crossing back to our house. That's simpler: if someone is approaching, I make the dogs sit - and stay sitting until the stranger has passed.


What does amaze me is the number of folk who own dogs, but apparently don't understand them at all. Particularly those who think that keeping the dog on a lead is the be-all and end-all of animal control. I'll pass over the cost to their pets who never get a chance to run free - just watch a dog who does and its ecstatic enjoyment of just running is obvious! Instead I'll relate a short story of what happened just a couple of days ago, Monday.

I'd taken the dogs and my grand-daughter to a park a few miles away because that one has a really good playground with lots of fun equipment. We were meandering our way from the gate where I'd parked towards the playground - at least my grand-daughter and I were meandering, I was throwing their balls and the dogs were running like fun! Any way, I suddenly heard a woman bellow from about 30 yards away, "PUT THOSE DOGS ON A LEAD!" I looked over and there she was, with a chunky beast pulling on a short lead. Cutting short an exchange that in all lasted several minutes in sporadic bursts, I refused (all I needed to do was throw the balls in a direction that kept them away from the harridan and her unfortunate animal). I did call and ask her which way she wanted to go so that I could leave that path free, but she didn't respond except to yell, "IT'S ILLEGAL NOT TO KEEP DOGS ON A LEAD!" Anyway, since she wouldn't tell me what I needed to know we set off in the direction of the playground. Eventually, she followed so that I could actually see where she wanted to go, so I made a big loop to let her get past.

All a bit of a pain, but two things amused me.

The first was one of the other things this woman shared with everyone in earshot: "THIS IS A STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER AND HE'D TEAR YOUR DOGS TO SHREDS IF THEY COME NEAR!" That was funny because mine are half Staffy and two halves make a whole, so if she had been right about the breed being what matters, along with their Alsation/Collie-cross mother making up the other two halves, it would have been her mutt that got chewed. Of course that's just dog-shit, upbringing is what really matters and as I've already said, mine have been brought up to have good manners: they were more likely to walk away than anything else.

The other thing that creased me up was my 6-year-old grand-daughter's reaction. She's another that I trust 'off the lead', so while I made that big loop, she pottered about her own business on the other side of the path. Afterwards, first to me, then later to her dad, she confided that as the woman went past, she'd whispered under her breath, "You're a meanie!"

Out of the mouths of babes...


It's an old saw, but the saying that: "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners!" is still true. My dogs aren't perfect because I'm not. I flatter myself that I can' be too bad, because they are pretty damn good.

Scooter read this and slobbered all over my monitor screen, that means he liked it.

 

[serpentmoon]

What a shame for your daughter. It makes you more nervous of all dogs when this happens. And it’s the owner’s fault! I love dogs and have been round them lots, but out walking in the countryside I was bitten by a dog. The woman’s response was terrible. She had let it run on a long lead and even though I moved off the path she let it come to me. Then she was just so defensive, and refused to believe it had done anything. Luckily the skin was not broken but I had a huge bruise on the back of my thigh for days. I didn’t want to cause trouble for the dog but I couldn’t get through to her even when I pointed out that where it had bitten me was equivalent to a child’s face. Some of these owners haven’t got a clue, they spoil their dogs and don’t discipline them and are too stupid to realize they are the problem not the dog.

Makes me so mad!