A good article on body language

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Here.

Make sure to watch the accompanying slide show. It's good as well.

I learned some interesting stuff. I'll be getting the author's book to learn even more.
 
Hm, I haveta say it'scommon that everyone but the partner can see through marital infidelity. It's usually denial. So that story was a bit of a heigh-ho, especially as the tells are quite well-known (fist under chin).

One interesting one I've used successfully to guess someones sexuality is the "tongue" response. It's a sign of disgust, like when the Peanuts characters say "bleahh" and stick thier tongues out.
 
What a fascinating job that guy has -- it must have been so cool!
 
The body language stuff has been around since the 1960s. A guy named BIRDWHISTLE wrote a book called KINESICS IN CONTEXT.

Mostly its bullshit because body position is ONE aspect of how we express ourselves.

What in hell does 'discomfort' mean? Pain? Fear? Anxiety?

Catatonic schizophrenics dont move at all. Disorganized schizophrenics shit in your sink.

Oftentimes people use posture and words and 'affect' to try and manipulate you. The person may want your job not your dick.
 
Well, since the author mentioned 'thin slicing' ya'll may want to read Blink by Malcom Gladwell.
 
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Oftentimes people use posture and words and 'affect' to try and manipulate you. The person may want your job not your dick.

Of course. People read books and learn how to 'present' themselves. It's actually rather amusing to 'fail to pick up' their clues and see how they repeat the presentation.
 
Individual cues may be indicative but the book I read many years ago by a guy called Alan Pease talked about signal clusters.

He also mentioned that getting your interlocutor to let go of their stance or even when you notice your own stance, changing it from 'shut out' or 'indifference' can actually make you or your conversationalist more receptive.

As an example you have probably witnessed teens and children in arguements where one actually physically tries to undo the others crossed arms, or turns them by the shoulder to face them.

ETA. consciously aping specific signals most often makes the user just seem 'false' or superficial because they then have to control the involuntary signals that they display unconsciously.
 
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I have a problem with body language as a tool for interviewers.

What some people fail to realise is that if one has a disability the body language is modified by the disability. For example I have ankylosing spondilitis. Interviewers have repeatedly stated that I come across as being stiff and unyielding. Of course I do. My body IS stiff and unyielding. Relaxed postures are almost impossible for me on normal office chairs. Low chairs are painful.

I can't do toe pointing - my feet and ankles won't bend to point my toes up.

I do the regal (Prince Philip) stance with my hands behind my back because that can be more comfortable when my condition is actively painful. It doesn't mean "don't come close" except that physical contact such as back-slapping could be acutely painful at that time.

With more severe disabilities body language can be really deceptive for those who just understand the basics of body language. The signals can be as meaningless as trying to explain colour to someone who has been blind from birth.

Body language is a tool. Like most tools it needs training to use properly and understanding when NOT to use it.

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Youre right!

There are better indicators than 'body language.' Proximity is one of them. Rapport is another. And I pay attention to what I feel.

All kinds of things can confound body language. Medication. Medical issues. Culture. Recent events. Fatigue.
 
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Youre right!

There are better indicators than 'body language.' Proximity is one of them. Rapport is another. And I pay attention to what I feel.

All kinds of things can confound body language. Medication. Medical issues. Culture. Recent events. Fatigue.

There are no 'better' indicators only different ones. Proximity is as culturally descriptive as accent and language and is a body language signal. Rapport is very much the same word as 'like' and holds no useful information about the correspondent.

Anything that confounds body language also confounds any other method of communication.

Reading signals, consciously reading signals (and your own response to them) is a help towards understanding, no more, no less.

I'd be willing to bet good money that half the people that have you on iggy JBJ wouldn't if these conversations were face to face.
 
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ETA. consciously aping specific signals most often makes the user just seem 'false' or superficial because they then have to control the involuntary signals that they display unconsciously.

If mirroring is done correctly and subtly, receptiveness is enhanced. That was a meaningful part of Bandler and Grinder's Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) back in the day.
 
There are no 'better' indicators only different ones. Proximity is as culturally descriptive as accent and language and is a body language signal. Rapport is very much the same word as 'like' and holds no useful information about the correspondent.

Anything that confounds body language also confounds any other method of communication.

Reading signals, consciously reading signals (and your own response to them) is a help towards understanding, no more, no less.

I'd be willing to bet good money that half the people that have you on iggy JBJ wouldn't if these conversations were face to face.

I just might take that bet.

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