The Chinese can intercept your cyber messages!!

Edward Teach

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U.S. Warns Of Chinese Cyber-Spies
Overseas Travelers Warned That Personal Information Can Be Stolen; No Device Safe
WASHINGTON, Aug. 7, 2008

CBS) U.S. intelligence officials issued a strong warning Thursday that Americans traveling overseas, particularly visitors to the Olympics in China, face a serious risk of having sensitive information stolen, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr.

The travel alert is blunt:

"All information you send electronically - by fax machine, personal digital assistant (PDA), computer or telephone - can be intercepted."

In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Joel Brenner, the government's top cyber-security official, urged Americans to leave all devices at home.

"Somebody with a wirless device in China should expect it to be compromised while he's there," Brenner said.

And those who must take phones and BlackBerries with them should remove the batteries.

"The public security services in China can turn your telephone on and activate its microphone when you think it's off," said Brenner.

China is one of a number of countries pushing active cyber-espionage programs aimed primarily at cracking U.S. national security computers and stealing corporate trade secrets. Billions have already been lost.

In addition, cyber-gangs and criminals, many based in Asia, have stolen bank accounts and credit card numbers from an untold number of Americans.

For protection, Brenner's office says, travelers should frequently change passwords, update anti-virus and spyware protections and avoid wireless or WiFi networks when possible. (In some countries they're controlled by state security forces.) The fear is compromised mobile devices give thieves open access to all of your computer files back home.

"We are giving advice based on a pattern that is relentless and ongoing as what we see as information theft," said Brenner.

And the government says no overseas traveler should discount the threat. Don't assume, the bulletin warns, that you're not important enough to be targeted.




I am surprised this has not received more coverage.

Does everyone but me know that this technology exists?

Is my cell phone bugging me right now?

Are we to assume that our government wouldn't spy on us?


Edward the Uneasy
 
Hm. What do you think they've stolen off Dubya's PDA? :eek: Hey, wait! Maybe some Chinese pirate is already impersonating our president and sending orders to the CIA and the military and such...

This would explain so much!
 
Welcome to the world of big brother... Uh Big Brothers.

The technology has been around for a while and is used by law enforcement and governments in some very interesting ways. Hell, even trucking companies use it to track their trucks, speed mileage, where they stop and for how long. calls the drivers make, and what programs are on their TV for Pete's sake.
 
For protection, Brenner's office says, travelers should frequently change passwords, update anti-virus and spyware protections and avoid wireless or WiFi networks when possible. (In some countries they're controlled by state security forces.) The fear is compromised mobile devices give thieves open access to all of your computer files back home.
Does Brenner's office know that all our technology is made in China? That means whatever vulnerablities our tech have they know about it--maybe even wired it in. And if there is something new and better to get past it, they've got it before we even know about it!

This is what comes from out-sourcing, especially to countries with no regulations or quality control. To mix metaphors, we've let the fox watch over the chicken coop and now we're recommending, to save ourselves, that we shut the barn door after the horses are gone.

:rolleyes: The West is sooo screwed! And the people who sold us the swamp land are laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Who do these guys think they are? NSA??

-KC

Is that cause for an orange alert?


Welcome to the world of big brother... Uh Big Brothers.

The technology has been around for a while and is used by law enforcement and governments in some very interesting ways. Hell, even trucking companies use it to track their trucks, speed mileage, where they stop and for how long. calls the drivers make, and what programs are on their TV for Pete's sake.

But Tx, they are saying that your phone can be activated remotely, without you
knowing it, and your mic used as a bug. I had never heard of that.
 
Hm. What do you think they've stolen off Dubya's PDA? :eek: Hey, wait! Maybe some Chinese pirate is already impersonating our president and sending orders to the CIA and the military and such...

This would explain so much!

No sweat, Dubya doesn't have a PDA, he wouldn't know how to use it - Game Boy with Tetris or Pac Man, maybe.
 
Turning on a phone to listen has been around for sometime. It was even documented in some computer journals a short while ago. It is also easy to use a cell phone for snooping.

You have to set it up and it has to have certain capabilities: such as auto answer, display off, ringer off. To snoop just lay your cell phone in a non-conspicuous spot. Leave the room and call it from a land line or another phone. Presto, you listening in on conversation in the room and know one is the wiser.

I guess if your phone has these capabilities it might be possible to set those parameters remotely and then call you phone.
 
But Tx, they are saying that your phone can be activated remotely, without you
knowing it, and your mic used as a bug. I had never heard of that.


Not much reason to use that technology, hell Edward, look up ..... that fly beside your light fixture is actually a mini mic and cam, made in china.

:rose:
 
Everything can be corrupted -- even (especially) the "wonderful" technology that's enabled long-distance socialization/business/sex.
 
I predict that soon enough government will monitor your online activity and fine you.
 
Dreams of Polina

Probably because they don't talk much, preferring more direct means of communication. :devil:

True.... just think what a difference one Bird of Prey could've meant to Georgia.... Obviously a hell of lot more than an Ally like the US...

Oh no.... did I just threadjack again?

Shit...

Pretty scary those Chinese listening devices... (that's what I meant to say!!)

-KC
 
True.... just think what a difference one Bird of Prey could've meant to Georgia.... Obviously a hell of lot more than an Ally like the US...

Oh no.... did I just threadjack again?

Shit...

Pretty scary those Chinese listening devices... (that's what I meant to say!!)

-KC
We got 'em too. And probably use them just as freely.
 
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