Movies and me.

[MasDom]

I just wanted to spout off on my emotions and thoughts when it comes to well written and directed movies. What they mean to me. If anyone minds to do so, you can as well, write your own comments, but basically this is about my views.

First off Alice in Wonderland. To me it's a representation of innocence lost. Alice represents someone who is naive. At first following the white rabbit, which represents the temptations we face, often with a familiar and friendly face. Under the surface which of course represents falling into the hole, is the darker side of things, a world where people's faces are less hidden, their insides on the outside.
Every character a representation of someone with this facet.

The red queen, purposely a bully and a windbag, always needing her way. Telling others if they don't obey her it's "off with their head".

The caterpillar trying to sway her to see things his way. Then trying to dope her up. As his sly words are to soothe her.

When I go through all the characters I don't see one that has a representation that doesn't make sense. Poor Alice has to see through it all. Where she ends up also makes sense. After taking her own control and facing the character that represents anyone who threatens you to get their way. The jabberwocky being a possible representation of that. Someone who tells you, they will hurt you if you don't play along. After all that she ends up back in real life, with her eyes open as if it was a dream.

So you see in this movie it relates to life. Imagine if you were a girl in an abusive relationship, how people try to confuse you, give you a false sense of reality and try and leave you in it, just to keep control. The only way out is through your own choice, and seeing through it. Choosing to go back through the looking glass. Along the way facing things that start small, but just get bigger and bigger until you face your greatest fears.

 

[nh23]

We've discussed this whole thing between us many times so I won't post all my thoughts here..just wanted to tell you that you have a beautifully brilliant mind and I you.

 

[MasDom]

Just a friendly bump to see if anyone had any thoughts.

 

[Homburg]

Have you ever read any Joseph Campbell? some of the ideation you're using here makes me think that Campbell would be a good read for you. He wrote "The Hero With a Thousand Faces", and it was basically the idea that every successful story has similar facets, and identifies common plot elements that appear in stories across all cultures. Really a fantastic book.

One of the cool bits about the book was plugging one of modern America's strongest mythical stories into it: Star Wars. Luke Skywalker and his story fits perfectly into the central Hero myth. Really cool stuff.

 

[MasDom]

Have you ever read any Joseph Campbell? some of the ideation you're using here makes me think that Campbell would be a good read for you. He wrote "The Hero With a Thousand Faces", and it was basically the idea that every successful story has similar facets, and identifies common plot elements that appear in stories across all cultures. Really a fantastic book.

One of the cool bits about the book was plugging one of modern America's strongest mythical stories into it: Star Wars. Luke Skywalker and his story fits perfectly into the central Hero myth. Really cool stuff.

Thank you for the suggestion. I will definitely check that out. I'm sure it's something that I will enjoy.

 

[Homburg]

Thank you for the suggestion. I will definitely check that out. I'm sure it's something that I will enjoy.

It's a thick read, not something to take on lightly, but campbell has some truly amazing ideas.

I like some of what you were getting to in your initial post. It is interesting how something that is frequently seen as kid's fare can have serious, deep meaning as well.

 

[intothewoods]

I just wanted to spout off on my emotions and thoughts when it comes to well written and directed movies. What they mean to me. If anyone minds to do so, you can as well, write your own comments, but basically this is about my views.

First off Alice in Wonderland. To me it's a representation of innocence lost. Alice represents someone who is naive. At first following the white rabbit, which represents the temptations we face, often with a familiar and friendly face. Under the surface which of course represents falling into the hole, is the darker side of things, a world where people's faces are less hidden, their insides on the outside.
Every character a representation of someone with this facet.

The red queen, purposely a bully and a windbag, always needing her way. Telling others if they don't obey her it's "off with their head".

The caterpillar trying to sway her to see things his way. Then trying to dope her up. As his sly words are to soothe her.

When I go through all the characters I don't see one that has a representation that doesn't make sense. Poor Alice has to see through it all. Where she ends up also makes sense. After taking her own control and facing the character that represents anyone who threatens you to get their way. The jabberwocky being a possible representation of that. Someone who tells you, they will hurt you if you don't play along. After all that she ends up back in real life, with her eyes open as if it was a dream.

So you see in this movie it relates to life. Imagine if you were a girl in an abusive relationship, how people try to confuse you, give you a false sense of reality and try and leave you in it, just to keep control. The only way out is through your own choice, and seeing through it. Choosing to go back through the looking glass. Along the way facing things that start small, but just get bigger and bigger until you face your greatest fears.

Have you read the book? It's pretty dark actually.

 

[MasDom]

It's a thick read, not something to take on lightly, but campbell has some truly amazing ideas.

I like some of what you were getting to in your initial post. It is interesting how something that is frequently seen as kid's fare can have serious, deep meaning as well.

A lot of things have lost their meaning to censorship, most things we read or see on tv now a days were heavily put on the chopping block for people like Disney. Hercules in it's original form had him go crazy and become a more lost character. Grimm's tales were never meant to be innocent in the first place. Often having characters tortured when needed. Still most of the true meaning comes through and as long as that's there I'm not going to complain. I guess all the writers usually put something from deep inside into their work.

 

[MasDom]

Have you read the book? It's pretty dark actually.

Yes. I always try to read things in their original form. It's so much more eye opening.

 

[MasDom]

Pink Floyd The Wall. Before I watched this movie I had a hard time understanding myself. My emotions had me closed in and feeling completely helpless and alone. Once I watched this movie, not only did I realize I'm not alone in my personal hell, but also that there are other people just as fucking confused.

Based on one man dealing with his life struggles while cartoonish sequences and almost random schizophrenic themes, show one man's interpretation about the people around him, and his own honest feeling inside. Like how his mother tried to pistol whip him, and smother him. Making him afraid of the real world past her loving embrace. Or authority figures who beat you down because in real life they are just as broken. In the end the character wishes he could be reborn an innocent child and forget it all, as if his life could continue on without it. So he does, that being the greatest lesson of the movie.

In my life learning this simple lesson saved me and if it wasn't for it, I would have consumed myself in a way I can't describe. What was even better about the movie is that I shared it with my loving pet and it showed who she really is as she understood everything I was saying and what the movie said itself. I look back with a smile to that night and a solace to this movie.

 

[FurryFury]

There are many movies I can't bring myself to watch for whatever reasons, Alice in Wonderland is one of them.

I remember one night at the ER when my son was little and couldn't breathe, they had Alice in Wonderland on. I couldn't watch it but he did and it calmed him down. LOL. So thank God for that because he wasn't getting any help there at all.

The Wall was great! A lot of people said they didn't "get it." I never understood why it would be difficult to get.

 

[jockdom]

The Company of wolves is an excellent retelling of Little red riding hood story.
A very dark movie.

 

[FurryFury]

The Company of wolves is an excellent retelling of Little red riding hood story.
A very dark movie.

I might have to check that one out.

 

[jockdom]

I might have to check that one out.

I think you might like it!







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