Karen Kraft
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... yup. More than likely you! Check this out:
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Earlier today, I made a comment that it never ceases to amaze me that school districts continue to misunderstand (or ignore) clear Constitutional prohibitions on forced observance of religious and or patriotic rituals, such as prayer in public schools where funding is through tax dollars, or standing, saluting, or otherwise making some sort of ritualized demonstration in support or recognition of such things as flags, national anthems, and so on.
This is well-trampled ground by now, but there is no shortage of stupid people in this world who somehow think that the government can force speech or expressive conduct. Draft card burning, flag burning, tee shirts that say “Fuck the Draft,” etc., no matter how pleasing or repugnant they may seem to people, simply cannot be prohibited based on the content of the message.
Unfortunately, this stupidity, long a major feature of the Executive Branch and Legislative Branch of the United States and of many of the Several States, has now jumped into the Judicial Branch.
The Catholic Church (one of my least favorite institutions in the world) issued an opinion to its faithful telling them that homosexuality is contrary to the teaching of the Church and opposing the adoption of children by homosexuals.
Rather than turning the other cheek, Board of Supervisors the City and County of San Francisco issued an official proclamation condemning the Holy Roman Catholic Church and The Vatican.
On one hand, the Church is allowed to say anything it wants to anybody it wants to, because it is a Church. It has the same freedom of speech as an individual does, but it also has additional protections found in the Free Exercise and Establishment Clauses of the same First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
On the other hand, folks who feed at the public trough, such the public teat (governmental agencies) are not allowed to disparage religion or any specific religion. They do not have any protections under the Constitution because, as I have said here time and time again, the so-called Bill of Rights (first ten amendments to the Constitution) are so much a list of “rights” held by the States and the People, but a list of “restrictions” placed on government and all of its subdivisions, agencies, offices, etc.
So anyway, a group of Catholics filed a lawsuit challenging the right of the City and County of San Francisco to condemn the Holy Roman Catholic Church overseas and in San Francisco.
A District Court Judge threw out the lawsuit, basing his opinion on the claim that the Vatican started it. What a great legal mind at work. That logic didn’t save your ass in middle school, so it sure as hell has no place in Federal Court! The case is on appeal to the Ninth Circuit, so probably won’t pay much attention to is and let the District Court Judge’s ruling stand. Without a doubt, however, if that were to happen, the United States Supreme Court will grant certiorari, hear the case, and reverse the Ninth Circuit and let the lawsuit continue on it merits.
Shit. How do you get one of these life-appointment jobs anyway? Certainly common sense and an understanding of the law aren’t as important as who you know.
Think of the tax dollars wasted to find out that the Supreme Court will tell you the same thing some skinny bitch in L.A. could have told you for free.
Anyway, here are the links to the San Francisco Resolution and the Lawsuit:
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/sb_thomasmore/CityofSanFrancisco-Resolution.pdf
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/sb_thomasmore/SanFrancisco-CatholicLeagueComplaint.pdf
I'm Karen Kraft and I don't approve of shit!
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Earlier today, I made a comment that it never ceases to amaze me that school districts continue to misunderstand (or ignore) clear Constitutional prohibitions on forced observance of religious and or patriotic rituals, such as prayer in public schools where funding is through tax dollars, or standing, saluting, or otherwise making some sort of ritualized demonstration in support or recognition of such things as flags, national anthems, and so on.
This is well-trampled ground by now, but there is no shortage of stupid people in this world who somehow think that the government can force speech or expressive conduct. Draft card burning, flag burning, tee shirts that say “Fuck the Draft,” etc., no matter how pleasing or repugnant they may seem to people, simply cannot be prohibited based on the content of the message.
Unfortunately, this stupidity, long a major feature of the Executive Branch and Legislative Branch of the United States and of many of the Several States, has now jumped into the Judicial Branch.
The Catholic Church (one of my least favorite institutions in the world) issued an opinion to its faithful telling them that homosexuality is contrary to the teaching of the Church and opposing the adoption of children by homosexuals.
Rather than turning the other cheek, Board of Supervisors the City and County of San Francisco issued an official proclamation condemning the Holy Roman Catholic Church and The Vatican.
On one hand, the Church is allowed to say anything it wants to anybody it wants to, because it is a Church. It has the same freedom of speech as an individual does, but it also has additional protections found in the Free Exercise and Establishment Clauses of the same First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
On the other hand, folks who feed at the public trough, such the public teat (governmental agencies) are not allowed to disparage religion or any specific religion. They do not have any protections under the Constitution because, as I have said here time and time again, the so-called Bill of Rights (first ten amendments to the Constitution) are so much a list of “rights” held by the States and the People, but a list of “restrictions” placed on government and all of its subdivisions, agencies, offices, etc.
So anyway, a group of Catholics filed a lawsuit challenging the right of the City and County of San Francisco to condemn the Holy Roman Catholic Church overseas and in San Francisco.
A District Court Judge threw out the lawsuit, basing his opinion on the claim that the Vatican started it. What a great legal mind at work. That logic didn’t save your ass in middle school, so it sure as hell has no place in Federal Court! The case is on appeal to the Ninth Circuit, so probably won’t pay much attention to is and let the District Court Judge’s ruling stand. Without a doubt, however, if that were to happen, the United States Supreme Court will grant certiorari, hear the case, and reverse the Ninth Circuit and let the lawsuit continue on it merits.
Shit. How do you get one of these life-appointment jobs anyway? Certainly common sense and an understanding of the law aren’t as important as who you know.
Think of the tax dollars wasted to find out that the Supreme Court will tell you the same thing some skinny bitch in L.A. could have told you for free.
Anyway, here are the links to the San Francisco Resolution and the Lawsuit:
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/sb_thomasmore/CityofSanFrancisco-Resolution.pdf
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/sb_thomasmore/SanFrancisco-CatholicLeagueComplaint.pdf
I'm Karen Kraft and I don't approve of shit!
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