Bistro Bijou

[Homburg]

I promise I will get a pizza recipe up on the blog, and if you follow it you will have New York style pizza: great sauce, thin crispy crust, really good.

I will do that tonight or tomorrow. And I'll tell you.

*blink*

That could be dangerous. It would raise my existing affection for you to dangerous heights.

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Is this a Red Sox fan writing this or are my eyes deceiving me?

Ange is a very special Red Sox fan.

 

[Anschul]

Yeah yeah, they always come up with that eventually.

here's the thing.

A tornado can form less than a mile from your house and you might not even know. I know because this happened to me. We had pure blue sky overhead. Our clue was the Channel 5 helicopter hovering over the house. We turned on channel 5, and I'llbedamned if there wasn't a small tornado taking a couple of roofs off sheds just to the north of us about half a mile. The total damage from that one was three telephone poles and two shed roofs.

Conversely:

Floods: not going to miss your house.
Earthquakes: not going to miss your house.
Hurricanes: not going to miss your house.
Volcanoes: not going to miss your house.

At Pesach, we call these The Ten Plagues...well, then, there's locusts, too, and they wouldn't miss your house either.

 

[Anschul]

The Uno's chain bought the rights to the name but they did not get the recipe for the pizza, as any Chicagoan can tell from the damned parking lot. That which most other cities call pizza, especially in those demented corners where baseball players in pinstripes are worshiped, eat soggy saltine crackers topped with generic ketchup in comparison. I should pity them, of course, but their arrogance abrogates any such offering.

I promise I will get a pizza recipe up on the blog, and if you follow it you will have New York style pizza: great sauce, thin crispy crust, really good.

I will do that tonight or tomorrow. And I'll tell you.

Ange, will you please straighten these flyover-state people out on the nature of pizza? This whole Chicago pizza thing is a myth. They love it not because it's better, but because it's the only thing they know. Thick crust pizza is Sicilian, and they still do it best in New York. (there's a similar myth surrounding something called "Boston-style pizza.") There ain't nothin' in the world like a pizza from Little Italy or Coney Island, no? Except in a little place called "Pizza" in Flagler Beach, Florida, two blocks south of the causeway. There, Angelo and Maria retired from a life making pizzas in Brooklyn, and set up shop down the street from the pier, next to the surfboard shop. Angelo makes his pizzas there the Old World way, and if you close your eyes you can smell the provolones and pepperonis hanging out to dry.
Chicago Pizza=a thick piece of bread covered with so much cheese so as to make the sauce and bread not matter.
Everyone knows the sauce, the crust, and the olive oil make the pizza, not four pounds of cheese. Anyone can do cheese.

 

[midwestyankee]

Ange, will you please straighten these flyover-state people out on the nature of pizza? This whole Chicago pizza thing is a myth. They love it not because it's better, but because it's the only thing they know. Thick crust pizza is Sicilian, and they still do it best in New York. (there's a similar myth surrounding something called "Boston-style pizza.") There ain't nothin' in the world like a pizza from Little Italy or Coney Island, no? Except in a little place called "Pizza" in Flagler Beach, Florida, two blocks south of the causeway. There, Angelo and Maria retired from a life making pizzas in Brooklyn, and set up shop down the street from the pier, next to the surfboard shop. Angelo makes his pizzas there the Old World way, and if you close your eyes you can smell the provolones and pepperonis hanging out to dry.
Chicago Pizza=a thick piece of bread covered with so much cheese so as to make the sauce and bread not matter.
Everyone knows the sauce, the crust, and the olive oil make the pizza, not four pounds of cheese. Anyone can do cheese.

There's an argument to be made for the capacity of dainty items to carry subtle flavors and I won't deny it. If this were not so, we'd all still be calling rice pudding the royalty of desserts.

Pizza, though, is not meant to be dainty. It's meant to be a meal.

Pizza ought not to be foldable.

Pizza sauce should have flavor that excites the palate and entices the genitals into readiness. My experience with New York pizza in New York, while necessarily limited to a few venues, tells me that New Yorkers seem to prefer a sauce not unlike weak ketchup.

Chicago pizza is, indeed, different. It's substantial, hearty, and sensuously overwhelming. Good Chicago pizza has as its foundation a crust that is, by volume, much lighter and more buttery than New York crust.

And before anyone starts to follow the breadcrumbs of the "doesn't know anything else" meme, I grew up on the east coast and travel for a living. I've eaten pizza in every major city in America, with the possible exception of Phoenix.

By the way, claiming that "four pounds of cheese" typifies Chicago pizza is like suggesting that Jason Giambi typifies the history of the New York Yankees.

 

[champagne1982]

I don't care for any chain pizza. I make my own. It only takes minutes to set the dough (here's the rub, the knead's the thing). Work the dough for the full seven minutes and more if you feel it, use fresh ingredients and good cheese. The only way you control cost is through judicious use of the toppings, otherwise splurge on excellent olive oil, fantastic cheese and delicious meat and veggies. S'all.

 

[Anschul]

There's an argument to be made for the capacity of dainty items to carry subtle flavors and I won't deny it. If this were not so, we'd all still be calling rice pudding the royalty of desserts.

Pizza, though, is not meant to be dainty. It's meant to be a meal.

Pizza ought not to be foldable.

Pizza sauce should have flavor that excites the palate and entices the genitals into readiness. My experience with New York pizza in New York, while necessarily limited to a few venues, tells me that New Yorkers seem to prefer a sauce not unlike weak ketchup.

Chicago pizza is, indeed, different. It's substantial, hearty, and sensuously overwhelming. Good Chicago pizza has as its foundation a crust that is, by volume, much lighter and more buttery than New York crust.

And before anyone starts to follow the breadcrumbs of the "doesn't know anything else" meme, I grew up on the east coast and travel for a living. I've eaten pizza in every major city in America, with the possible exception of Phoenix.

By the way, claiming that "four pounds of cheese" typifies Chicago pizza is like suggesting that Jason Giambi typifies the history of the New York Yankees.

You mean he DOESN'T?????

 

[midwestyankee]

You mean he DOESN'T?????

You've been in the sun too long for sure.

 

[Angeline]

*blink*

That could be dangerous. It would raise my existing affection for you to dangerous heights.

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Ange is a very special Red Sox fan.

It's all there Homie, on my blog.

Yes. I love you, too.

 

[Angeline]

You've been in the sun too long for sure.

Hi. I love Spencer Tracy. The Yankees...not so much.

So yes, we should probably agree to disagree on the baseball thing.

 

[midwestyankee]

Hi. I love Spencer Tracy. The Yankees...not so much.

So yes, we should probably agree to disagree on the baseball thing.

Oh, I must not have made myself clear. I am a dyed-in-the wintertime Maine wool citizen of Red Sox Nation. I was just aghast that a fellow citizen would have anything to do with anything New Yawk, but then I learned that you are natally geographically challenged and so must be excused.

 

[unpredictablebijou]

I don't care for any chain pizza. I make my own. It only takes minutes to set the dough (here's the rub, the knead's the thing). Work the dough for the full seven minutes and more if you feel it, use fresh ingredients and good cheese. The only way you control cost is through judicious use of the toppings, otherwise splurge on excellent olive oil, fantastic cheese and delicious meat and veggies. S'all.

OH REASON NOT THE KNEAD!

 

[BooMerengue]

Oh, I must not have made myself clear. I am a dyed-in-the wintertime Maine wool citizen of Red Sox Nation. I was just aghast that a fellow citizen would have anything to do with anything New Yawk, but then I learned that you are natally geographically challenged and so must be excused.

*stomps my feet, and puts fists on hips...

Who you talkin' about? Huh?

Geographically, you should be a Mets fan, kiddo.

 

[midwestyankee]

*stomps my feet, and puts fists on hips...

Who you talkin' about? Huh?

Geographically, you should be a Mets fan, kiddo.

Surely you can't be talking to a guy who grew up 175 miles north of Boston?

 

[BooMerengue]

Surely you can't be talking to a guy who grew up 175 miles north of Boston?

Yank! Please forgive me! I thought that was Angeline speaking, and Lit wouldn't let me delete or edit.

Mea culpa! Mea Culpa! Mea Maxima Culpa!

Where did you grow up? Sounds like Moosehead, or New Brunswick. I'm going there someday. I am. I promise.

 

[midwestyankee]

Yank! Please forgive me! I thought that was Angeline speaking, and Lit wouldn't let me delete or edit.

Mea culpa! Mea Culpa! Mea Maxima Culpa!

Where did you grow up? Sounds like Moosehead, or New Brunswick. I'm going there someday. I am. I promise.

Those places are all much further north. I grew up in central Maine.

 

[Homburg]

It's all there Homie, on my blog.

Yes. I love you, too.

Thank you! I will set my kitchen staff on this project post haste.

 

[Angeline]

Oh, I must not have made myself clear. I am a dyed-in-the wintertime Maine wool citizen of Red Sox Nation. I was just aghast that a fellow citizen would have anything to do with anything New Yawk, but then I learned that you are natally geographically challenged and so must be excused.

I love NYC and New Jersey. It's home to me. Not the Yankees though. I'm a third-generation giver of the Bronx Cheer to the Yankees. My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan, but after they left the city he decided he really liked basketball.

 

[Angeline]

Thank you! I will set my kitchen staff on this project post haste.

*Grinz*

Don't forget to play the song for them, It gets you in the spirit lol.

 

[midwestyankee]

I love NYC and New Jersey. It's home to me. Not the Yankees though. I'm a third-generation giver of the Bronx Cheer to the Yankees. My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan, but after they left the city he decided he really liked basketball.

Well then, anyone who despises the Yankees, cooks well, and pokes around at Lit is top shelf in my book.

 

[Homburg]

*Grinz*

Don't forget to play the song for them, It gets you in the spirit lol.

Heh, will do. Thanks again, Ange.

 

[Angeline]

Heh, will do. Thanks again, Ange.

Lol. I feel like Johnny Appleseed, dropping pizzas wherever I go.

 

[Homburg]

Lol. I feel like Johnny Appleseed, dropping pizzas wherever I go.

For you

"If you're after gettin the honey
then you don't go killin all the bees"

 

[unpredictablebijou]

*giggling quietly about what the Yank said regarding New York Style pizza. Ketchup on a saltine LOL!*



I totally agree, but don't tell those east coasters. They're all defensive about their foldable pizza.

bj

 

[midwestyankee]

*giggling quietly about what the Yank said regarding New York Style pizza. Ketchup on a saltine LOL!*



I totally agree, but don't tell those east coasters. They're all defensive about their foldable pizza.

bj

If it can be folded it's simply not pizza. Not sure what manner of creature it is, but pizza it isn't.

 

[Homburg]

*giggling quietly about what the Yank said regarding New York Style pizza. Ketchup on a saltine LOL!*



I totally agree, but don't tell those east coasters. They're all defensive about their foldable pizza.

bj

If it can be folded it's simply not pizza. Not sure what manner of creature it is, but pizza it isn't.

Pizza can be folded. There is room under the pizza umbrella for foldable pizza and deep dish. Calm down you two, or we shall be forced to call a pizza dance-off.

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And for all of you people out there that have you grammar books on a nearby shelf, I offer you this.

To say that I am aghast would be an understatement.

Dr Ferguson printed three examples of the errors in the March edition, saying they were "the result of the usual mishaps with work that undergoes several drafts and is proofed and edited by the original writer".

Last night, she told The Australian the points Professor Huddleston identified were differences of opinion rather than mistakes. "They weren't all mistakes as he described but differences of opinion and that's the way of the world," she said. Dr Ferguson said Professor Huddleston did not follow traditional grammar but had invented his own type, called the Cambridge grammar, which was unique and had reclassified terms, such as calling prepositions conjunctions.

"It's a totally different perspective and a totally different way of organising and thinking about language," she said.

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