Revenge

One of the original functions of government involved controlling vendettas. Revenge creates a lot of problems in a community when everyone handles their own problems. So the King took the business over.

But what happens is the business becomes business and the goal becomes making money rather than justice.

I discovered an article that confirms something I suspected. From about 1890 -1920 lynching was epidemic in America, especially in the South and West. The reason was ineffective justice. The sheriff, judge, and state made money if the offender was leased for labor.

Everyone got paid and the convict ran away the first chance he had. And he generally returned to town when the heat died down. So people started lynching suspects.

No one made any money, the criminal didnt escape, and he didnt come back.

In 1926 Tampa convicted a man for murdering 9 people in their sleep. The victims ranged from infant to 95 years old. He hit them with an axe. But every influential lawyer and politician tried to save this man. It got so bad 3000 people stormed the jail trying to hang the man.
 
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A long time ago, I was pretty much the go-to girl for hasty revenge plots. I probably could've made a living doing the things I did. I'm not talking about keying someone's car or toilet papering their trees, I mean a kind of sinister, yet subtle emotional cruelty. Diss me at work? Oh, then maybe your husband might suddenly realize you've been cheating on him.

I had my ways. And, yes, it was satisfying to the person I was back then. Or at least I thought so, but now I know that acts like that kind of steal your soul a little bit at a time. Revenge is a very ego-driven thing and if you let yourself become driven by revenge every time someone slights you or someone you know, ego takes over your life. Now, I prefer to live life in the present and I do worry about my karma. Though, I don't consider myself a coward by any means. I think it takes a lot more energy to shine something on, to move on, than it does to lash out.
 
My husband and I were once in a position where it would have been nice to lash out at the bitch that was pretty much responsible for driving us into bankrupsy with our buisness. We couldn't at the time. Three years later this 'paragon of virtue' that everyone was so sure was wonderful was caught check kiting, embezzling and defrauding insurance companies.

She went to prison, her husband divorced her. I had people come up to me and appoligise "maybe she really did have it in for you" they told me.

In the end I didn't have to take any form of revenge. She was mean enough that she got hers in the end.

I love karma :D
 
Revenge takes too much energy. It's much easier to sit back and watch people slam into the brick wall that they've built themselves.

:D
 
Karma seems to do a much better job with revenge than I ever could.
 
I was thinking again about that "living well is the best revenge," and I'm convinced its true, because I can't imagine anything that will drive the target more crazy! (And in rare, rare cases can even generate some soul searching.)
 
Revenge is a medicine best served cold, heated revenge rarely works.

I took on a business partner a dozen years ago to help me run my patisserie, she paid a reasonable price for a share in the business. Within days of doing the deal, I discovered she hated women. I found this out driving into London with her to one of my/our suppliers, every female driver was a cunt or a whore. This was a big problem as we only employed females within the patisserie. Within weeks, most of my staff had told me either she went or they went. I'd never lost any staff ever in any of my business ventures, except the ones that stole from me (it's a fact of life in any cash business). Instead of expanding the business, taking on a partner contracted the business, the new business she was supposed to generate didn't materialise and instead of being out and about acquiring new clients, she stayed in the shop (after I'd been baking all night) interfering with the staff and alienating the customers. Things came to a head after people for whom we'd prepared a buffet for 100 guests complained they had run out of food halfway through the evening. Madam had decided I'd prepared to much and stored what she regarded as 'excess' in our walk-in freezer.

Fortunately, we had a partnership agreement. I'd counseled her to take legal advice but her 'know it all' husband looked over the contract and decided it was fine. The thing about a partnership in England is that either party can dissolve it by simply writing a letter canceling the partnership, which is fine as long as you are the one writing the letter and you are in possession of partnership property. I stayed in the shop for 48 hours, changed all the locks, had the solicitor serve notice of dissolution and spent two years fighting legal battles. Revenge: the Judge stated she had behaved entirely contrary to the terms of the partnership agreement, she was not entitled to any proceeds of the business and costs were awarded against her. Happy Day. I use her obscure surname as my Internet password, just to keep reminding myself never to be blinded by anyone.
 
So what I want to know is this - what's your take on revenge? Have you ever indulged in it? If so, what did you do, and are you proud of it?

A young lady once said "Never with you..." in a very public and embarrassing fashion to me. As it turns out, never was my choice after a surprisingly short seduction period and the put down was more private but with the right number of witnesses, all of whom go the message -- "I can accept an insult delivered courteously, but if you fuck with me, I'll cut my heart out to get to you."

Was it satisfying?

Yes. Though if I had to do it over again, I admit that I would dropped her AFTER I fucked her... that would have been both more personally satisfying and a much better revenge.

Am I proud of it?

There's that old texas joke about 'needed killing... or maybe there's something in here about Causality... but more than likely I am that step to the right of JamesBjohnson... I have never been the type to think about it... if you throw a punch, I'm going to throw a kick and then I'll throw a punch too.

This was taught to be by my mother who threw a pot of boiling water on my stepfather after he threw a slipper at her... Karma is a bitch but if you make a man squeal he'll think three or four times before he comes at you again.

I don't normally recommend revenge though, because I find that people are generally squeamish. They won't follow through to the end and that's extremely important... as my mother might say if she were better educated "Escalate only if your escalation will be the last one."
 
I'm a firm believer in Karma.......but sometimes it needs a push.

If someone does something to go out of their way to hurt someone I love...I will get them back. Especially if it may affect my kids.
Slowly, methodically. I'm very patient. I will hurt them back. It may take a while and they may not even realize it was me that did it.
 
It is my opinion that revenge and indeed any activity in which you allow harm to come to another damages your soul.

Does this mean I have never hurt someone? Of course not. However, even in the instances where the actions I took to hurt others, either physically or emotionally, were justified or what I felt was the correct thing to do, I feel that I damaged myself at the same time.

I'll be damned if I can remember who said it, but the quotation I remember is:

"Every time you kill a man, a little bit of you dies."

I do not actively seek to hurt others when I am calm. I actively try to mitigate and lessen hurts I have done in passion. And I try not to allow others to be hurt if I can do something to prevent it.

Of all the proverbs regarding revenge, the one I have always felt applied best was digging two graves.

My ultimate example has always been Hamlet. Look at the destruction laid in his wake.

I do not believe in revenge.
 
I'm feeling like a duck with fangs again... really big ones that make little girl ducks not want me to kiss up on their neck.

You are some good people and I'm glad to have you in the world... and I promise that I'll think twice before I hurt any of you.

Actually, I won't but 'good' people believe that kind of shit which makes it easier to get behind them. :devil:
 
That's Wildlife Photographer style revenge. You watch, knowing damn well what's going on, but you don't intervene... :cool:

Nah... that's just being an active tragedy whore.

I mean, I do that with my male friend's relationship all the time... "So we're going to go to the strip club on your anniversary... are you su-- You know, I hear some new strippers got in last week."
 
I come from a rather conservative Church of Wales home background, where it was drilled into me that turning the other cheek was the only way to deal with people who wronged you.

I have plenty of friends who believe in the fine art of revenge, though, and these days I'm torn between to the two extremes.

Revenge can be a satisfying, fun and creative process - and something you still talk about in years to come. But on the other hand, is it really worth spending so much time and effort on someone who's been a cunt to you?

So what I want to know is this - what's your take on revenge? Have you ever indulged in it? If so, what did you do, and are you proud of it?
I have never indulged in revenge, knowingly (maybe unknowingly, though). What's the point? It never makes you a better person. It makes you a worse person.
 
I'm feeling like a duck with fangs again... really big ones that make little girl ducks not want me to kiss up on their neck.

You are some good people and I'm glad to have you in the world... and I promise that I'll think twice before I hurt any of you.

Actually, I won't but 'good' people believe that kind of shit which makes it easier to get behind them. :devil:

I'm not non-violent.

I simply don't use it unless I deem it appropriate.

Upon my graduation from high school, the vice-principal in charge of discipline informed me that he had never had a student get in as many fights on campus as I had without getting expelled. I was suspended only once.

Simply put, I fought when I had to... not when I could. And I always sought alternate solutions first. If pressed and necessary, I went to fists.

Imagine if our government acted that way... how much better off would we be right now?
 
I have a relative who routinely bad mouths me and mine to all and sundry around town. This relative has tried to create trouble for us with the council over our landholding and our current living arrangements.
I would take great delight in seeing her come unstuck.
Ah yeah-- I would call that neutralising a threat, myself, more than revenge. And it sounds like it might be important.

That is not a case of turning the other cheek, darling-- it's a case of the Lord helping those who help themselves.

Here is an example of revenge occurring right now.

Actually now that I think about it, this is revenge-- backfiring.
 
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A lot of replies here aren't really "revenge" but "self defense." The difference, to me, is when that person can't hurt you anymore yet you still go out of your way to deliver pain and delight in their misfortune. There's no room for that in my life. Live and let live, eh? Do unto others & all that jazz.
 
A lot of replies here aren't really "revenge" but "self defense." The difference, to me, is when that person can't hurt you anymore yet you still go out of your way to deliver pain and delight in their misfortune. There's no room for that in my life. Live and let live, eh? Do unto others & all that jazz.
Great post, Imp
 
Revenge really feels good in some cases.. And if I dont do something I cant stop thinking about it. I'd like to leave them alone, but I imagine that they think they are getting away with it then or just laughing or something.

I do have a ego.. :D
When I lose in a game or sport I really want to win next time.. I need to win.. To show i'm better!... So I can gloat!! HAHA I WON
And tease them about it :p
Oooh sweet revenge! Especially when they bugged me about it before. Then you can get back to normal :)
 
Revenge?

Not willingly.

That being said I have been known to use imaginative ways to get my displeasure across.

Revenge, true revenge requires hate and I refuse to hate.

Cat
 
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