the Loving Wife Category

[jeninflorida]

Okay, not 100% sure if this is the right area to post this...but can someone help me out with the 'loving wife' or 'hotwife'? If the husband knows, and enjoys watching his wife with other men does that 100% make the husband a cuckold? Seconly, what if the couple is 'swingers' would that still make him a cuckold?

 

[hubbyluvinwife]

My two cents

From my perspective being cuckolded is if the wife is doing such to shame her husband, him not being aware or being 'public' witness to any acts he is not allowed to participate in. That said, the thought(s) of my wife Susie enjoying other partners, male & female, greatly excites me.

 

[Guest]

I think hubbyluvinwife pretty much nailed it. The common thread in cuckold stories seems to be the shame, degradation, or humiliation of the husband.

Even if he consents to watch, there are almost always comments about his inadequate anatomy, performance, or willingness to allow another man to have sex with his wife.

 

[emap]

That generally is part of it, though really, being cuckolded means your partner is having sex with others and not with you. Can happen to wives as well as husbands. Generally this is only a one way street, as in the one being cuckolded gets no sex while the other gets tons.

Of course it is entirely possible to have a dual cuckolding, as in both partners are stepping out and not giving any to each other. Mainly because the definition of cuckolding is one partner sleeps around with others, but not their partner. So quite possible to have say, a marriage of convenience, he's gay, she's gay or they are both gay, so they don't sleep with each other but have lovers.

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

Oxford English Dictionary:

cuckold noun & verb. Late Old English.
[ORIGIN Old Northern French variant of Old French cucuault, from cucu cuckoo + -ald, -aud, -ault pejorative suffix.]

► A noun. A man whose wife is adulterous. derogatory. Late Old English.

► B verb transitive. Make a cuckold of. Late 16th Century.

 

[jeninflorida]

Well I can see how the humiliation and things enter. But I also think that there can be a mfm that is loving and sexy. Where there is no humiliation, no comments that are negative (or where the wife says things like 'see how good he's doing me' or 'he so much bigger than you') but where the husband and wife have a friend join them. Would that still be a cuckold situation?

I think hubbyluvinwife pretty much nailed it. The common thread in cuckold stories seems to be the shame, degradation, or humiliation of the husband.

Even if he consents to watch, there are almost always comments about his inadequate anatomy, performance, or willingness to allow another man to have sex with his wife.

 

[PhilGarlic]

My thoughts

Well I can see how the humiliation and things enter. But I also think that there can be a mfm that is loving and sexy. Where there is no humiliation, no comments that are negative (or where the wife says things like 'see how good he's doing me' or 'he so much bigger than you') but where the husband and wife have a friend join them. Would that still be a cuckold situation?

for what it's worth I think of a cuckold as being denied any envolvement and to some extent humilliated, if thats not happening its not cockold.
Jen your description of some of your group sex in another thred had me so fucking hard, thanks.

 

[jeninflorida]

Right, and that is my point! if a couple enjoys a male lover (well the wife) and there is no humiliation then its more or less like swingers or group sex, right? this is more or less a loving couple with a sexy guy. so a swinger type story...

if the wife goes out on dates, talks down to the husband then its a cuckold situation.

for what it's worth I think of a cuckold as being denied any envolvement and to some extent humilliated, if thats not happening its not cockold.
Jen your description of some of your group sex in another thred had me so fucking hard, thanks.

 

[emap]

That's the standard view on it, some people actually like a loving cuckold where he doesn't get much if any and she has all sorts of sex. I suppose these are the guys who get a thrill out of watching or hearing about but not doing.

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

I see I am outvoted on this.

I'll have the OED and Merriam-Webster change their definitions (which are, incidentally identical).

 

[Jack_Slade]

It's not just that the wife is adultrious.

Being a cuckold also involves having the Husband "clean up" the wife, He could be hidden in a closet and made to watch a couple, then clean up the female afterwards. Or, the wife comes home with a full creampie, and has hubby clean her up.

In a MFM 3-way the husband would probably "fluff up" the other male first, watch them screw, and at a minimum clean the wife, or take a snowball from her. The wife may force him to be a Bi-bottom to the other male too.

 

[sirhugs]

but, as has already been debated/discussed/analyzed on many a thread, Lit's "Loving wives" category is not synonymous with a "Cuckold" category ( or else Laurel woulda named it that). There are several strains of stories there which truly do express love, just in unusual ways. The odd author accidentally even posts a straightforward hubby wife twosome story.

 

[emap]

Don't feel bad snoopy, I'm being ignored to.

 

[jeninflorida]

So if a couple shares with another couple, but lets say that one night one of the wife's are unable to attend a dinner..maybe she's out of town on business but says that its okay that they have 'fun', so what that make the husband a cuckold?

It's not just that the wife is adultrious.

Being a cuckold also involves having the Husband "clean up" the wife, He could be hidden in a closet and made to watch a couple, then clean up the female afterwards. Or, the wife comes home with a full creampie, and has hubby clean her up.

In a MFM 3-way the husband would probably "fluff up" the other male first, watch them screw, and at a minimum clean the wife, or take a snowball from her. The wife may force him to be a Bi-bottom to the other male too.

 

[hubbyluvinwife]

Bare Bones

It boils down to this, if the husband is shamed, ignored, demeaned or abused in any fashion that's being cuckolded, such being his choice or not it's essentially the same situation.

 

[jeninflorida]

thanks, that is my thought. I'm going to submit a story that will fall in the lovingwife's category...can't wait to get the fan (flame) email. one thing that I enjoy, is that I get someone so moved(upset) that they have to email me!

It boils down to this, if the husband is shamed, ignored, demeaned or abused in any fashion that's being cuckolded, such being his choice or not it's essentially the same situation.

 

[jeninflorida]

We've met a few, its funny when we meet a new couple and can spot different things. We have one couple friend that, well not sure if the wife knows her husband is very submissive and has a naughy bi streak. he's said a few things...or given us some hints. however, they have kids and my gutt tells me that she isn't ready.

Also ran into a few attornies that are very much into this. All day long they make decisions and are powerful. So its a complete 180...to come home and watch the wife seduced with a younger stud, and to have the 'stud' say things to humilate the husband. ....

so, to each his or her own...as long as in the end, its to further the relationship and not done in a negative way...how to explain that. as long as the couple is happy who am i to judge

That's the standard view on it, some people actually like a loving cuckold where he doesn't get much if any and she has all sorts of sex. I suppose these are the guys who get a thrill out of watching or hearing about but not doing.

 

[Mansa Musa]

That's the standard view on it, some people actually like a loving cuckold where he doesn't get much if any and she has all sorts of sex. I suppose these are the guys who get a thrill out of watching or hearing about but not doing.

And, sometimes, the men are "functionally" impotent. Watching their wives enjoying the attentions of another man is their perfect aphrodisiac.

 

[jeninflorida]

well since most insurance co., do not pay for invetro....and guessing that invetro is around $17,000 per try (?), it's a lot less expensive for the wife to be with a 'friend' .. not sure how much it cost for a sperm bank...now, there are a ton of these stories, husband asks a friend to help with the wife getting preggers....

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QUOTE=Mansa Musa;27290166]And, sometimes, the men are "functionally" impotent. Watching their wives enjoying the attentions of another man is their perfect aphrodisiac.[/QUOTE]

 

[Mansa Musa]

well since most insurance co., do not pay for invetro....and guessing that invetro is around $17,000 per try (?), it's a lot less expensive for the wife to be with a 'friend' .. not sure how much it cost for a sperm bank...now, there are a ton of these stories, husband asks a friend to help with the wife getting preggers....

In the "hotwife" subculture, most of the husbands are appreciative of the idea of the wife as "porn star". Essentially, they derive renewed ardor for their wives by "allowing" their wives to engage in infidelity, using the idea of "possessing" a woman who's still attractive enough to gain the attentions of other men as a sparkplug for their own libidos. It's like the "head cheerleader" fetish writ large, where their "staid" hausfrau becomes the girl that everyone wants ( and, stereotypically speaking, everyone wants to bang the head cheerleader).

I've read more than a few stories about the "helping hand", conception-wise. Yet, most wife-sharing stories turn into wimp (or gay) hubby/super-endowed bull claptrap, or they go into the other direction and become these weird "Who does she love?" soap-opera cliche-fests. IMHO, Lit needs more stories where the "loving wife" is an actual person, not some random amalgam of the author's fears/desires/expectations. Why can't the wife like big cocks on a weekly basis, but her husband's dick on the daily? Or a woman who's kept in contact with her first boyfriend, but is neither willing or ready to move on from her "dead-end marriage", no matter how good her first love is in bed? Hell, why can't the "other man" come up short?

 

[emap]

Well I beleive that would not go over well in loving wives because apparently most of the wordy readers, lost their wife to another man or is the other man. So painting a picture of the other man being smaller would go over really badly.

Not to say it's a bad idea, I think would be interesting.

 

[JADED_ONE1969]

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[emap]

Ummmm GW, I'm not married. I live with him and give him sex whenever he wants, which luckily for me is when I want it to most of the time. Sometimes he gets home right after I finished playing and he's horny as all get out though I'm not.

The reason I take interest in these stories is two fold, I'm a huge slut at heart, he keeps me happy so not going anywhere, but it doesn't mean I can't think about it, and it's a challenge. I mean how do you write up a story about a woman who loves her husband but has to go elsewhere and get fucked? Obviously most people go with cause he sucks in bed, or he told her to. I won't go there, I gotta think up a new way.

 

[snoopercharmbrights]

... I won't go there, I gotta think up a new way.

There are a number of other ways, none of them new.

They include:
blackmail (over something non-sexual, like theft),
debt payment,
longing for pregnancy,
and even old-fashioned seduction (because the seducer gets a kick out of taking happily married women).

 

[emap]

I know, just well I wanna be new and different. So tossing out all of the tried and true reasons, we're not left with to much, but I'll figure it out eventually.