Q's Conspiracy Round Up

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Of course there have been real conspiracies, the assassinations of Lincoln and Franz Ferdinand being obvious examples.

But, my theory is that more often, one or more faction in society, while not actually entering into a conspiracy before the fact, may have a vested interest in hiding information about the event in question, or in other matters that may be brought to light beause of the event, and therefore engage in coverups and misinformation to mask their peripheral involvement.

Examples:

JFK- Oswald was a lone nut, but he had been hanging around the fringes of the intelligence community for years and any number of people were afraid of what he might know. He had connections with both pro and anti-Castro organizations, and if he had gone to trial, might have given testimony that embarrassed powerful people. My conclusion is that Oswald acted alone, but that he himself may have been the victim of a conspiracy.

RFK- Strong evidence suggests that, while Sirhan acted alone, Kennedy's security staff panicked and bungled what should have been a manageable situation, and covered up some facts about the assassination in order to disguise that fact.

MLK- Well, in this case, I think the conspiracy theorists have a pretty strong case (The House Select Committee thought there was a conspiracy). At the very least, wealthy white supremacists funded Ray, possibly suspecting what he was planning, but not having specific knowledge.

Area 51- Have you noticed that the number of UFO sightings in the area dropped to near zero once the Air Force made knowledge of the Stealth Program public?

9/11- When the Intelligence community fucks up, it tries to cover it's ass. Does this surprise anyone?

OJ- The cops framed a guilty man.
 
A conspiracy is made up of malcontents, each with the power, by discloser, to be contented.

Niccolo Machiavelli
 
Damn. If I had blamed everything on the Jews, this thread would have gone 5 pages already.
 
RFK- Strong evidence suggests that, while Sirhan acted alone, Kennedy's security staff panicked and bungled what should have been a manageable situation, and covered up some facts about the assassination in order to disguise that fact.

Area 51- Have you noticed that the number of UFO sightings in the area dropped to near zero once the Air Force made knowledge of the Stealth Program public?

RFK - That theory makes no sense. The only reason people cared about RFK is becuase JFK. Sirhan Sirhan was a lone nut job.

Area 51 - Do you not watch the Discovery/A&E Channels? There is a show on Area 51 about every hour. Including "new" sightings in AZ, Mexico, etc pretty much a new "sighting" every week.
 
RFK - That theory makes no sense. The only reason people cared about RFK is becuase JFK. Sirhan Sirhan was a lone nut job.

Area 51 - Do you not watch the Discovery/A&E Channels? There is a show on Area 51 about every hour. Including "new" sightings in AZ, Mexico, etc pretty much a new "sighting" every week.

As for RFK, I'm not sure you even read what I wrote. I said that Sirhan was a lone nut. Oh, and by the way, RFK had just won the California primary when he was shot, so I don't know where you come up with the idea that no one cared about him.

As for Area 51, what do sightings in Arizona and Mexico have to do with it?
 
As for RFK, I'm not sure you even read what I wrote. I said that Sirhan was a lone nut. Oh, and by the way, RFK had just won the California primary when he was shot, so I don't know where you come up with the idea that no one cared about him.

Sirhan couldn't even come up with an answer other than "a kill" like he said on "Faces of Death".

As for Area 51, what do sightings in Arizona and Mexico have to do with it?


The sightings as you posted...

Area 51- Have you noticed that the number of UFO sightings in the area dropped to near zero once the Air Force made knowledge of the Stealth Program public?

You didn't relate new "sightings" to the release of Area 51 documents in other places in your first post.

Not arguing with you, just pointing out a few things.
 
RFK - That theory makes no sense. The only reason people cared about RFK is becuase JFK. Sirhan Sirhan was a lone nut job.

Area 51 - Do you not watch the Discovery/A&E Channels? There is a show on Area 51 about every hour. Including "new" sightings in AZ, Mexico, etc pretty much a new "sighting" every week.

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Michael Corleone did it, but most people don't know that, because they walked out of Godfather III before the end.
 
Sirhan couldn't even come up with an answer other than "a kill" like he said on "Faces of Death".

As for Area 51, what do sightings in Arizona and Mexico have to do with it?


The sightings as you posted...



You didn't relate new "sightings" to the release of Area 51 documents in other places in your first post.

Not arguing with you, just pointing out a few things.

I am really confused as to what you are saying about Sirhan. Apparently, we aren't arguing about whether or not he acted alone, so I don't know what it is you are trying to point out.

As for Area 51, I tossed that in, but don't really care enough about it to argue. But if you have interesting info to share, I'd be glad to read it.
 
I am really confused as to what you are saying about Sirhan. Apparently, we aren't arguing about whether or not he acted alone, so I don't know what it is you are trying to point out.

As for Area 51, I tossed that in, but don't really care enough about it to argue. But if you have interesting info to share, I'd be glad to read it.

I'm saying Sirhan shot RFK for glory, nothing more. (IMHO).

As far as sightings, there have been several reports over Arizona, Mexico, Brazil and most recently Ft. Worth, Texas since the Area 51 reports have surfaced,
 
I'm saying Sirhan shot RFK for glory, nothing more. (IMHO).

As far as sightings, there have been several reports over Arizona, Mexico, Brazil and most recently Ft. Worth, Texas since the Area 51 reports have surfaced,

We are not in disagreement about Sirhan. Perhaps I ought to elaborate on my first post. Conspiracists have raised a number of questions about exactly what happened in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel. In particular, there is some inconsistency between the ballistic and the forensic evidence. (Basically, there were more bullet holes than bullets accounted for.)

Probability that there was a second shooter: low.

Probability that one or more members of the security team freaked out and started shooting wildly around the room: high.

Possibility that Kennedy was accidently hit by friendly fire: Eh, maybe.
 
We are not in disagreement about Sirhan. Perhaps I ought to elaborate on my first post. Conspiracists have raised a number of questions about exactly what happened in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel. In particular, there is some inconsistency between the ballistic and the forensic evidence. (Basically, there were more bullet holes than bullets accounted for.)

Probability that there was a second shooter: low.

Probability that one or more members of the security team freaked out and started shooting wildly around the room: high.

Possibility that Kennedy was accidently hit by friendly fire: Eh, maybe.

Understood :) I do not doubt that Sirhan was a lone shooter like "Oswald".

Agreed that the security team was so panicked to not have another Kennedy shot on their watch would be very high.

Q, have you seen the Sirhan interview on "Faces of Death"? It's very much dry and unreal. Kinda like Oswald.
 
Understood :) I do not doubt that Sirhan was a lone shooter like "Oswald".

Agreed that the security team was so panicked to not have another Kennedy shot on their watch would be very high.

Q, have you seen the Sirhan interview on "Faces of Death"? It's very much dry and unreal. Kinda like Oswald.

No, but I have seen other films of him. The man has near zero affect. He would appear to be a pure sociopath.
 
Do you think the American revolution was a conspiracy?

The British would have thought so.
 
Do you think the American revolution was a conspiracy?

The British would have thought so.

I suppose you'd have to draw a distinction between a conspiracy and a mass movement. Certainly, there are conspiratorial aspects in any revolution, but once there are thousands of people openly involved, is it still a conspiracy?
 
JFK- Oswald was a lone nut, but he had been hanging around the fringes of the intelligence community for years and any number of people were afraid of what he might know. He had connections with both pro and anti-Castro organizations, and if he had gone to trial, might have given testimony that embarrassed powerful people. My conclusion is that Oswald acted alone, ...

He must've used magic then.

How did he shoot from completely different angles?

Teleportation maybe?

You're being ignorant and ridiculous,






.
 
He must've used magic then.

How did he shoot from completely different angles?

Teleportation maybe?

You're being ignorant and ridiculous,






.

There is no evidence of a second shooter. None.

I do think that there was some doubt originally, because of the trajectory of the so-called "magic bullet" but new examinations of the Zapruder film conclusively show that all the shots came from the same direction.
 
I suppose you'd have to draw a distinction between a conspiracy and a mass movement. Certainly, there are conspiratorial aspects in any revolution, but once there are thousands of people openly involved, is it still a conspiracy?

I think it still a conspiracy along as the established legal authority (ie. George III) is still in place. Even a mass movement is a conspiracy as long as its leadership is still operating in secrecy. Once the previous authority is removed the conspiracy is over.

Further issues. How about the Giants victory over the Patriots? Who likes to see Cinderella beaten up by New York Bullies. Yankee or Jewish money here?

Hmmmm.
 
Someone recently told me that he had a relative who was highly placed in the pentagon, who "knew" that Bobby was killed because if he had been elected potus, he would have been briefed on the truth about his brother's assassination, whatever that was.

I do not necessarily subscribe to this story.
 
One man's conspiracy is another man's revolution. It's a perspective thing.
 
He must've used magic then.

How did he shoot from completely different angles?

Teleportation maybe?

You're being ignorant and ridiculous,.
Are there any "normal" beliefs that you share with the rest of us, or is your entire brain tilted to 180 degrees?

How about the Grand Canyon? Geologic wonder or drainage ditch dug by ancient aliens with a giant backhoe?

Is that really the Titanic on the ocean floor or just a plant to divert our attention away from the fact that the real ship is still out there somewhere looking for a port?

Is there any mundane historical or scientific fact for which you are inclined to accept the same boring explanation that is recognized by the vast majority of the rest of the world? Just curious.
 
I would like to know who conspired to allow gold lame be a good idea again.
 
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